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IchiKyo · 2006-04-15, 17:58

Oh you haven't see It? Yes a director cut ending
just some More Images of Happy Peaceful Shining Day (With the Op Single Shining Day Version) and one of them is a picture with alyssa and Miyu, some yellow canari like Alyssa in Mai Otome. But not the spectaculor thing... Midori return back and... Oh Shizuru appeared when Mikoto is going to die between Natsuki and Nao, she's missing in the original version...

justMartin · 2006-04-15, 18:19

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Originally Posted by BlackCatXIII

Who else thinks Gigi is going to be a main character in the next season, or maybe in the OVA, she gets a lot of screen time for a character that never talks, and her character design looks unique.

Who is Gigi? got a picture?

paTKany · 2006-04-16, 05:04

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Originally Posted by justMartin

Who is Gigi? got a picture?

AnimeFreak9 · 2006-04-16, 05:34

My thoughts overall:

The series had a lot of potential with its diverse and interesting cast of characters and the setup of the relationships between them. I really enjoyed the earlier episodes. However I feel the middle portion of the series stretched out a little too long and the ending episodes were kinda rushed, with TOO many major (and sometimes unexplained) events happening too quickly.

The last two episodes really soured me to the series as I feel they were cliched, fan-service laden and inconsistent.

(Note: Fan-service isn't just sexual: gratuitous displays of techniques, unnecessarily "cool" poses/actions etc. also count).

Below are some of the issues I had with the series:
(1) The fight scenes: Too many instances of: two Otome fly into each other, big explosion - then story moves on. Not enough detail. One such collision per series is enough.
(2) Tomoe (the green haired 'evil' otome with a flap of hair partially obfuscating her face) acted TOO sterotypically evil after she openly started attacking Arika, Yes Mister Bond, before I kill you, I'm going to explain all the evil I did...
(3) Too many instances of external figures rushing in and saving the day at the last second.
(4) Inconsistencies (e.g. Tomoe falling, unpowered, from the sky yet remaining seriously uninjured). Primarily in the latter episodes.

I'd give Mai Hime an 8/10. I'll give this series only a 5/10.

Tokkan · 2006-04-16, 06:09

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Originally Posted by AnimeFreak9

(4) Inconsistencies (e.g. Tomoe falling, unpowered, from the sky yet remaining seriously uninjured). Primarily in the latter episodes.

I fail to see how that's inconsistant, every character in My-Otome has survived near fatal experiences. I'm not surprised out little Comma-head had survived the fall.

IchiKyo · 2006-04-16, 06:13

Men don't have the Chance...

Eclipze · 2006-04-16, 08:25

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Originally Posted by Rob the Fox

I fail to see how that's inconsistant, every character in My-Otome has survived near fatal experiences. I'm not surprised out little Comma-head had survived the fall.

There is actually: Aoi fell, but she was injured (quite badly). Hell, she was unconcious for a few days. Yet Tomoe, being de-robe (hence in a sense, at the same physical condition as a normal human) fell at the same or even greater height, and was able to violently take off the cloth that was used to cover her (not to mention that she had crashed through some buildings on the landing).

What...nanomachines giving girls super-human physical capabilities?

IchiKyo · 2006-04-16, 08:27

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Originally Posted by Eclipze

There is actually: Aoi fell, but she was injured (quite badly). Hell, she was unconcious for a few days. Yet Tomoe, being de-robe (hence in a sense, at the same physical condition as a normal human) fell at the same or even greater height, and was able to violently take off the cloth that was used to cover her (not to mention that she had crashed through some buildings on the landing).

What...nanomachines giving girls super-human physical capabilities?

Maybe Nanomachines reacts when you have Revenge and Anger lol

beachslacker · 2006-04-16, 12:56

Characters:
Too huge a cast with not enough development of the characters. The only character that truly deserved a standover right from the start was Mashiro, from a spoilt princess to eventually a sensible queen. Also, I was hoping that they explained more of the 5 pillars. Beside Natsuki, Shizuru, Nao, the other 2 pillars just popup of nowhere and joined in the party to save the city.

Let alone Mai and Mikoto who made a entrance suddenly, I still can't quite figure out what were they really for. And Sergay, he just did NOT know how to DIE!

Styles:
Can we skip the MaryAnn hairdos? Mai Hime stylings were so much better than Otome. And those robes needed abit more improvements.. tho I wanna complain, I hardly see Natsuki in her robe!

Plots:
Typical storyline of trying to takeover a city for technology, battle-style... perhaps not my cuppa tea. Preferred Mai Hime, at least it made more senses when the 12s fought with twist of plots and whys and MIPs that left a more human touch in the whole serie.

Spoiler for Teases:

Sidetracks:
We need more ShizNat!!!

dznutz · 2006-04-19, 17:18

had i not seen mai hime then otome would be great.

hime had it all. action, romance, thrillers, nail biters, and ofcourse drama. it was the type of anime where you had to think.

otome, on the other hand, was straightforward...... for simple minded people.

Sabu113 · 2006-04-20, 23:55

beach says it well. Mai Hime was too good for Otome to be associated with it. Still it wasn't horrible.. 7 good out of 10.

MattAlchemy · 2006-04-24, 00:29

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Originally Posted by paTKany

Yeah then her best friend is Yuria, serious friend is Patricia, and the funny one is Kasumi. Then Yuria betrays her by summoning a monster and Patricia becomes an eternal enemy while Kasumi does some funny stuff. Then Bette get's jealous of Gigi because she gets all the love from... I don't know, Shizuru's twin or something. Della, Linda, and Robin are her mini friends! -_____________-

Anyway, I think I give it a 8/10 bcause they didn't rush much.

Keitarou-kun · 2006-04-25, 14:15

Very simullary to all other Action/Comedy/Romance ect anime... i loved it though...

And i have a question to ask?

Will there be a new season with Mai-series

and if...

When will i be out in stores for my wallet to get empty

:P

I live in hope from day to day, Wait for the atlantic delivery boat in bay...
If i find the answer to my wish, Mai-????? would be mine in a single swish

mina wa sama desu!
Sayoonara
:Keitarou:

felix · 2006-05-02, 08:19

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Originally Posted by MattAlchemy

Yeah then her best friend is Yuria, serious friend is Patricia, and the funny one is Kasumi. Then Yuria betrays her by summoning a monster and Patricia becomes an eternal enemy while Kasumi does some funny stuff. Then Bette get's jealous of Gigi because she gets all the love from... I don't know, Shizuru's twin or something. Della, Linda, and Robin are her mini friends! -_____________-

Is that fanfiction

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Originally Posted by Keitarou-kun

Will there be a new season with Mai-series

Maybe... who knows... maybe we'll get a hint in the OVA...

__________

:Hmm:... the general opinion seems to be that the story wasn't tolled right... as in... "good story but not as good story telling... "

Maybe watching the ep in different order would have been better...

#1. ep7 (cut the materialization)
#2. ep8
#3. ep9
#4. ep10
...
then cut all the fanservice and fill in the gaps here and there with flashbacks

... a jump might be needed...

Lets see for the rest of the ep...

Spoiler:

Sorrow-K · 2006-05-05, 01:32

I gave it a 6 in my review, but the rating system on my site is different from the one here, so that corresponds more with a 6.5, which when rounded up is a 7, so that's how I voted.

Otome's good points were how it flowed and the way it developed its main characters, but I just couldn't help but compare it with HiME, and as far as a comparison is concerned, Otome just can't hold up. Otome could never create a dramatic stanza as intense as HiME's final third and just wasn't as revolutionary and refreshing as its predecessor.

With that said, there's a lot of good in Otome, and as far as a fun action series is concerned, it delivers the goods. I think a lot of the negative reactions towards Otome have come from people who wanted a direct sequel to HiME, as opposed to an AU.... which I can't say I fully understand, since HiME's story is pretty much complete and there isn't a real need for a sequel. Oh well.

Overall verdict: Not as good as HiME, but lots of fun nonetheless.

mikage-aya · 2006-05-13, 04:50

i unfortunatelly watched Mai Otome and then Mai Hime...

when i first saw Mai Otome i thought waw this is a great anime.. this was the impression for the first episodes.. but then.. i dunno everything seemed to go in the wrong direction.. someone said that the charecters were well introduced but this is taking too long and the plot doesn't have time to unfold... it's true.. and i didn't like the ending...

afterwards i watched Mai Hime... and i was surprised ...it was much better... i mean very well done .. all that u could ever want from an anime... and i somehow was happy cuz i felt that it also "repairing" the "mistakes" that were in the Mai Otome... and i liked the ending...
so i think that i'll give Mai Otome an 7.5 - 8

it's a good project ... but i could have been better

Aya Reiko · 2006-05-13, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Eclipze

There is actually: Aoi fell, but she was injured (quite badly). Hell, she was unconcious for a few days. Yet Tomoe, being de-robe (hence in a sense, at the same physical condition as a normal human) fell at the same or even greater height, and was able to violently take off the cloth that was used to cover her (not to mention that she had crashed through some buildings on the landing).

What...nanomachines giving girls super-human physical capabilities?

Don't forget Haruka falling off a cliff onto rock in episode 10 without her robe activated.

Mouse_j · 2006-05-22, 20:26

Lets start by saying I LOVED Mai-Otome!

Now, I have not made my way through all of Mai-Hime yet as it is licienced and being released in North America [I have principles

] But I was familiar with the characters and general idea before going into Otome.

Otome was bright and colourful when it needed to be and gut wrenching with muted colours at perfect times. [A side note, having watched Otome in subtitled form, I won't be able to watch it dubbed when it does come to north america. Not that this is a bad thing, the voices were EXCELLENT]

For specific comments and notes...

Spoiler for Mai-Otome:

Well, enough said.... Hope you all find this 'review' interesting.... its my first on this forum

Mouse_j · 2006-05-26, 19:36

Well, I had one of them crazy thoughts today... so I thought I would put it into words..

Has anyone ever compared the Meister Otome [MaiOtome] to the Kirin [Taiho] of Juuni Kokki? [If this comparison has already been done before on this board, just let me know, my ego can take it

]

Both are connected to their ruler, one dies, the other dies as well... Both are the most trusted confidant of their ruler. Both can be used in the even of attack or defence [though the Kirin's involvement is indirect]. The two maid differences that I can note are as follows...

One, the Kirin are set with their ruler/country from birth, the otome are selected by any country at graduation(typically).
Two, the Kirin placed their by 'god' to guide their ruler on the right path, to be a voice of reason[followed or not]. The Otome generally follow any order their ruler gives without question. [though Mashiro rightly challenges this concept in the last episodes]

Thoughts?

Miles Teg · 2006-05-27, 03:07

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Originally Posted by Mouse_j

Both are connected to their ruler, one dies, the other dies as well...

When the rulers die, the Kirin don't necessary die. Yoko is the second empress of Keiki.

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2006-04-15, 17:58	Link #21
IchiKyo 大いなる希望の力、キュア・ドリーム! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France - Metz Age: 35	Oh you haven't see It? Yes a director cut ending just some More Images of Happy Peaceful Shining Day (With the Op Single Shining Day Version) and one of them is a picture with alyssa and Miyu, some yellow canari like Alyssa in Mai Otome. But not the spectaculor thing... Midori return back and... Oh Shizuru appeared when Mikoto is going to die between Natsuki and Nao, she's missing in the original version... __________________ Livejournal Precure. - Precure VS All Stars Incredible Roster.

2006-04-16, 06:13	Link #26
IchiKyo 大いなる希望の力、キュア・ドリーム! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: France - Metz Age: 35	Men don't have the Chance... __________________ Livejournal Precure. - Precure VS All Stars Incredible Roster.

2006-04-16, 12:56	Link #29
beachslacker Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Characters: Too huge a cast with not enough development of the characters. The only character that truly deserved a standover right from the start was Mashiro, from a spoilt princess to eventually a sensible queen. Also, I was hoping that they explained more of the 5 pillars. Beside Natsuki, Shizuru, Nao, the other 2 pillars just popup of nowhere and joined in the party to save the city. Let alone Mai and Mikoto who made a entrance suddenly, I still can't quite figure out what were they really for. And Sergay, he just did NOT know how to DIE! Styles: Can we skip the MaryAnn hairdos? Mai Hime stylings were so much better than Otome. And those robes needed abit more improvements.. tho I wanna complain, I hardly see Natsuki in her robe! Plots: Typical storyline of trying to takeover a city for technology, battle-style... perhaps not my cuppa tea. Preferred Mai Hime, at least it made more senses when the 12s fought with twist of plots and whys and MIPs that left a more human touch in the whole serie. Spoiler for Teases: Comedy was good throughout. Love it for this portion. There were many more but these are some which left me with a deeper impression. - Parts like Arika's heartshaped hairdo when Shizuru closed in to her for a tease. (Tho I thought it was a little too exaggerating) - Nao and Shiho's expressions and dialogues for the sugar and Water Monster scene. - Nao making fun of Shiho why she ever needed a robe when all she ever needed was her makimaki. (LOL) - Akane reappearing outside the castle with the #5 pillar. - Miss Maria! Nobody can miss her in that fighting scene tho it lasted for a few seconds but the facial expressions of those were PRICELESS! Sidetracks: We need more ShizNat!!!

2006-05-05, 01:32	Link #35
Sorrow-K Somehow I found out Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	I gave it a 6 in my review, but the rating system on my site is different from the one here, so that corresponds more with a 6.5, which when rounded up is a 7, so that's how I voted. Otome's good points were how it flowed and the way it developed its main characters, but I just couldn't help but compare it with HiME, and as far as a comparison is concerned, Otome just can't hold up. Otome could never create a dramatic stanza as intense as HiME's final third and just wasn't as revolutionary and refreshing as its predecessor. With that said, there's a lot of good in Otome, and as far as a fun action series is concerned, it delivers the goods. I think a lot of the negative reactions towards Otome have come from people who wanted a direct sequel to HiME, as opposed to an AU.... which I can't say I fully understand, since HiME's story is pretty much complete and there isn't a real need for a sequel. Oh well. Overall verdict: Not as good as HiME, but lots of fun nonetheless. __________________ .:The Nihon Review:.:Ikoku Meiro no Croisée:.:Tamayura: Hitotose:. .:Behind The Nihon Review:.:Understanding Guilty Crown’s Failure:. .:MAL:.:Twitter:.

2006-04-16, 05:34	Link #24
AnimeFreak9 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	My thoughts overall: The series had a lot of potential with its diverse and interesting cast of characters and the setup of the relationships between them. I really enjoyed the earlier episodes. However I feel the middle portion of the series stretched out a little too long and the ending episodes were kinda rushed, with TOO many major (and sometimes unexplained) events happening too quickly. The last two episodes really soured me to the series as I feel they were cliched, fan-service laden and inconsistent. (Note: Fan-service isn't just sexual: gratuitous displays of techniques, unnecessarily "cool" poses/actions etc. also count). Below are some of the issues I had with the series: (1) The fight scenes: Too many instances of: two Otome fly into each other, big explosion - then story moves on. Not enough detail. One such collision per series is enough. (2) Tomoe (the green haired 'evil' otome with a flap of hair partially obfuscating her face) acted TOO sterotypically evil after she openly started attacking Arika, Yes Mister Bond, before I kill you, I'm going to explain all the evil I did... (3) Too many instances of external figures rushing in and saving the day at the last second. (4) Inconsistencies (e.g. Tomoe falling, unpowered, from the sky yet remaining seriously uninjured). Primarily in the latter episodes. I'd give Mai Hime an 8/10. I'll give this series only a 5/10.

2006-04-19, 17:18	Link #30
dznutz Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	had i not seen mai hime then otome would be great. hime had it all. action, romance, thrillers, nail biters, and ofcourse drama. it was the type of anime where you had to think. otome, on the other hand, was straightforward...... for simple minded people.

2006-04-20, 23:55	Link #31
Sabu113 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	beach says it well. Mai Hime was too good for Otome to be associated with it. Still it wasn't horrible.. 7 good out of 10.

2006-04-25, 14:15	Link #33
Keitarou-kun Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Very simullary to all other Action/Comedy/Romance ect anime... i loved it though... And i have a question to ask? Will there be a new season with Mai-series and if... When will i be out in stores for my wallet to get empty :P I live in hope from day to day, Wait for the atlantic delivery boat in bay... If i find the answer to my wish, Mai-????? would be mine in a single swish mina wa sama desu! Sayoonara :Keitarou:

2006-05-13, 04:50	Link #36
mikage-aya Junior Member Join Date: May 2006	i unfortunatelly watched Mai Otome and then Mai Hime... when i first saw Mai Otome i thought waw this is a great anime.. this was the impression for the first episodes.. but then.. i dunno everything seemed to go in the wrong direction.. someone said that the charecters were well introduced but this is taking too long and the plot doesn't have time to unfold... it's true.. and i didn't like the ending... afterwards i watched Mai Hime... and i was surprised ...it was much better... i mean very well done .. all that u could ever want from an anime... and i somehow was happy cuz i felt that it also "repairing" the "mistakes" that were in the Mai Otome... and i liked the ending... so i think that i'll give Mai Otome an 7.5 - 8 it's a good project ... but i could have been better

2006-05-22, 20:26	Link #38
Mouse_j Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Lets start by saying I LOVED Mai-Otome! Now, I have not made my way through all of Mai-Hime yet as it is licienced and being released in North America [I have principles ] But I was familiar with the characters and general idea before going into Otome. Otome was bright and colourful when it needed to be and gut wrenching with muted colours at perfect times. [A side note, having watched Otome in subtitled form, I won't be able to watch it dubbed when it does come to north america. Not that this is a bad thing, the voices were EXCELLENT] For specific comments and notes... Spoiler for Mai-Otome: This may be a bit reversed with later episodes being easier to remember -The ending was beautiful, even others jumping in to help Arika lift the flower. She is still a young Meister afterall -Miss Maria was so COOL in the last two episodes. She didn't even have to turn younger, dealing with the soldiers in the hall was enough! -I loved Miyu... Her explinations made perfect sense to me and her scene looking in on the unkown girl in the city that was a decendant of Alyssa was poingnant -The tear jerking moments... Erstin's death, Aoi's sacrifice, Arika talking to her mother... They all made me cry -All the fight scenes were delicious to watch, ealier ones though I found short and stopped to leave you wonder the outcome, or be told what it was rather than show it. Most likely a time constraint. -The robes!.... need I say more..... though Shiho's meister robe was a bit much. My favorites... Nina's green meister robe, Maya, Akane, and Arika's first meister robe(I think it suited her active personality better, just make it blue instead of pink) -Having listened to Mikoto in both english and japanese I can say the japanese voice actor suits her much better as does the buddist robes and 'god' character in Otome more than her character in Hime [thus far] Now, some comments and expectations on my part -Haruka and Yukino... I loved these two, however I had hoped for one scene. That would be to have Yukino calm Haruka with a simple stern "Haruka..." and a commanding look, no 'chan', just showing she IS the leader of Aries. -Shiho's "Maki, maki, maki" scenes were hilarious at the start but should have been dropped or lessened near the end like Nina's 'weakness' was -Having said that... Arika's exploiting of Nina's ticklishness never grew old! And I am hoping that for the upcoming OAV's one will be a reunion of Arika and Nina, or showing how they keep in touch. And of coarse Arika will have to give Nina a little poke -For the OAV's.... Yes, one with Nina and Arika's relationship nowadays. Two, tell us more about Miyu, maybe other places she visits, and observations she makes, perhaps a one off 30min story with another of Alyssa's decendants. Note, I am not inclined to believe that it is the same Fuka Gakuen from Hime. For my own sake I choose to think of it as perhaps remnaints of a spaceship they used long ago to come to this world... Modelled after Fuka Gakuen, yes Three, some story with Mai, her interactions with Takumi in Zipang perhaps. And fourth, some story with Mashiro and Arika to see how the kingdom and Garderobe is doing... Well, enough said.... Hope you all find this 'review' interesting.... its my first on this forum Last edited by Mouse_j; 2006-05-23 at 02:27.

2006-05-26, 19:36	Link #39
Mouse_j Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006	Mai-Otome ---> Juuni Kokki? Well, I had one of them crazy thoughts today... so I thought I would put it into words.. Has anyone ever compared the Meister Otome [MaiOtome] to the Kirin [Taiho] of Juuni Kokki? [If this comparison has already been done before on this board, just let me know, my ego can take it ] Both are connected to their ruler, one dies, the other dies as well... Both are the most trusted confidant of their ruler. Both can be used in the even of attack or defence [though the Kirin's involvement is indirect]. The two maid differences that I can note are as follows... One, the Kirin are set with their ruler/country from birth, the otome are selected by any country at graduation(typically). Two, the Kirin placed their by 'god' to guide their ruler on the right path, to be a voice of reason[followed or not]. The Otome generally follow any order their ruler gives without question. [though Mashiro rightly challenges this concept in the last episodes] Thoughts?