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Xero8420 · 2014-12-27, 10:00

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Originally Posted by QuasarBurst

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Well this almost sounds cliche enough...

Riki · 2014-12-27, 10:06

now try standing at my position. I had to repeat those lines over and over again for almost 2 years.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2014-12-27, 11:03

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Originally Posted by Riki

now try standing at my position. I had to repeat those lines over and over again for almost 2 years.

it is a bit tedious how it seems like the first girl usually gets the prettiest words to describe them. Whats funny is i must admit DAL i didnt like Tohka or Yoshino kurumi was sexy but thats it. The Yamai arc was my favorite mostly because they took it to the next level as far as pushing shidou as a character and in how things played out.

LoveYouSaber · 2014-12-27, 13:23

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Originally Posted by QuasarBurst

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Hope I am not reopening old wounds, but that shows that Tohka's hair is black (pitch-black?)? I think there was a discussion a while back over what colour's Tohka's hair was.

And yeah, to be honest, I don't think the author does a good job describing Tohka's beauty. Words like "Impossibly beautiful girl" "can't find 10 grandiose adjectives to describe" really don't say much to be honest - it's hard to imagine what Tohka's face would look like, for example, just from the above words. Though I guess that's what the illustrations are for...

Trung-t-rung · 2014-12-27, 13:28

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Well, at least it is consistent and not suddenly changed over the course of novels something.

kagato3 · 2014-12-27, 13:51

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the problem with that is the had the number clearly stated in thair names useing kun or on 一三四五七八九十 readings. as for shidos mother being #2 i havf sapport it. because we dont know her first name but if it has 二 in the name then you are correct by ellen does not have 六 in her name.

The pattern of names does not have to be absolute there is also the posablity that the names are more hidden. So they might not use 六 but 陸. As a side note one of the Chinese translation for 陸 is army.

Karen Nora Mathers
Karen - Pure
Nora - Light
Mathers - Son of Mather- Powerful army

Ellen*Mira Mathers
Ellen*- Light
Mira - Bitter also could be Admirable
Mathers - Son of Mather- Powerful army

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also about phantom i dont even want to geuss at its exact id one big reason is karumi's time traeling abatly. but since phantom is playing god i dout she is one of the ten.

Phatom is no more playing god then Kurumi is. She appears to have 2 goals. 1 bestow the gems she has to a new host. 2 have Shidou seal the spirits. She calls him sealing Kotori " the best possible outcome ", she pointed Kurumi at him and after it failed made sure she would still keep going after him, Miku became a spirit in the same town as him right after he started actively working on sealing spirits. Seemed to have known Origami before she gave her one and would clearly know Shidou sealing her should be easy. Ike comments that Shidou him self is "part of that woman's plans"

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antheor qestion why is isnt karen call in to action whenever ellen show up on the battle feild perhaps thay have uneqel ablatys i dont think so. so why?

The two are rarely near by each other when Ellen is in the feild in volume 5 Karen was in England, and when they came to Japan in volume 8 Ellen and Ike had returned to England and i believe Eliot had gone back by the time ike returned.

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Ellen is Humanity's Strongest Wizard, so Karen is probably weaker. I'm sure Karen is still pretty strong though.

I'm not sure we can take her title as the strongest to be 100% fact since Karen is in an even more secretive organization then DEM and doesn't go around flaunting her abilities. Most likely they are equal.

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

it is a bit tedious how it seems like the first girl usually gets the prettiest words to describe them. Whats funny is i must admit DAL i didnt like Tohka or Yoshino kurumi was sexy but thats it. The Yamai arc was my favorite mostly because they took it to the next level as far as pushing shidou as a character and in how things played out.

All the Spirits and Origami , well minus Kitori due to "brother vision", tend to get the same treatment when they are first described in a volume. Origami is almost always refered to as doll like

corefire · 2014-12-27, 14:47

that intrastng and plasable. but i think my thory is a little more plasable but not by much. the sepharot tree is a system i think its more likely to use common numers but the wiriter could put in that twist just to catch us off gard by the way thank you for the info.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2014-12-27, 14:51

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that interesting and plausible. but i think my theory is a little more plausible but not by much. the sephirot tree is a system i think its more likely to use common numbers but the writer could put in that twist just to catch us off guard by the way thank you for the info.

im going to edit this to help your spelling alright

corefire · 2014-12-27, 14:57

waht i mean is Phatom always seems in control of the situation no mater how cahotic it is whear as Kurumi has had to retreat becase of kotori.

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

im going to edit this to help your spelling alright

i dont mind.

on another note i have a qestion how meny books will this series be my geuss 22-23 vol.

kagato3 · 2014-12-27, 15:15

really I'm not a strong follower of Ellen and Karen being spirits I originally brought it up as a completely crack theory it was only afterwards that I started to notice all the small things that fit with them being the 6th. The hair color, the names Karen Nora and Ellen Mira which fit too well for me not to believe that they weren't named with the knowledge of the meanings behind the names.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2014-12-27, 15:56

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Originally Posted by corefire

what i mean is Phantom always seems in control of the situation no mater how chaotic it is where as Kurumi has had to retreat because of kotori.

i dont mind.

on another note i have a question how many books will this series be my guess 22-23 vol.

and again i help

as for how many books will it be im guessing we have quite a few more it depends on how soon they reveal phantom

Estzero1 · 2014-12-27, 16:12

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on another note i have a qestion how many books will this series be my guess 22-23 vol.

No clue. My guess is between 15 - 20. More than 20 seems unlikely to me.
Nevertheless, the LN will accompany us for the next years. That's sure.

GotEffed2RageQuit · 2014-12-27, 19:20

Hi guys. I'm just new here so ummm... here goes.
If we include every Inverse, 20 would be the least.
About Karen and Ellen, Ellen did say Origami is the second one to hurt her(albeit with distractions), so maybe Karen is the first.
Phantom didn't expect a barging Origami.
And we could always have fake names.

That's all. Thank you.
*bows*
*slams head on table*

Xero8420 · 2014-12-27, 19:53

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Originally Posted by kagato3

really I'm not a strong follower of Ellen and Karen being spirits I originally brought it up as a completely crack theory it was only afterwards that I started to notice all the small things that fit with them being the 6th. The hair color, the names Karen Nora and Ellen Mira which fit too well for me not to believe that they weren't named with the knowledge of the meanings behind the names.

And someday, she might change her name if she became a spirit.

Also, do take note again that the name Mathers involved in the Qliphoth.

corefire · 2014-12-27, 20:21

2vol for #6. 2vol for #2. 2 vol for phantom. 6-12 or 8-16 depending wehter 6 and 2 did or did not have Inverse conted in their intoductory volumes. = 12-18 low 14-22 high.

Estzero1 · 2014-12-27, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Xero8420

Also, do take note again that the name Mathers involved in the Qliphoth.

Really

Mhm, interesting. Didn't know that.

AP24 · 2014-12-27, 20:33

Obviously it won't be over 20 volumes since I think the author mentioned a while ago that the series already reached halfway mark.

GotEffed2RageQuit · 2014-12-27, 20:37

Subject to change without prior notice.

kagato3 · 2014-12-27, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Xero8420

And someday, she might change her name if she became a spirit.

Also, do take note again that the name Mathers involved in the Qliphoth.

I think that there is about a 60% likelyhood that Ellen is/was/will be number 6. Oh god typing that out just made me think about another number 6, The Prisoner form the show of the same name. What if Kurumi was looking for Ellen the whole time but she was wrong about her being a captive. Ok, yeah thats a little too tin foil hat zone.

Xero8420 · 2014-12-27, 21:04

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Originally Posted by kagato3

I think that there is about a 60% likelyhood that Ellen is/was/will be number 6. Oh god typing that out just made me think about another number 6, The Prisoner form the show of the same name. What if Kurumi was looking for Ellen the whole time but she was wrong about her being a captive. Ok, yeah thats a little too tin foil hat zone.

We'll just stick to Ellen for plausibly being #6. We would not be surprised if it's otherwise either.

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Riki ランダム王 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Atlantis	now try standing at my position. I had to repeat those lines over and over again for almost 2 years. __________________ Life is a blank sheet of paper. Each of your movements and actions will determine whether or not it becomes art or scrap.

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kagato3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	really I'm not a strong follower of Ellen and Karen being spirits I originally brought it up as a completely crack theory it was only afterwards that I started to notice all the small things that fit with them being the 6th. The hair color, the names Karen Nora and Ellen Mira which fit too well for me not to believe that they weren't named with the knowledge of the meanings behind the names. __________________ Higurashi: Its a bit like watching a trainwreck, except you keep getting to see different trains wrecking with roughly the same passengers, into a variety of different objects. Also, the trains are driven by monkeys. On LSD.

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GotEffed2RageQuit N.Kurogane x N.Vermillion Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Witch Mansion	Hi guys. I'm just new here so ummm... here goes. If we include every Inverse, 20 would be the least. About Karen and Ellen, Ellen did say Origami is the second one to hurt her(albeit with distractions), so maybe Karen is the first. Phantom didn't expect a barging Origami. And we could always have fake names. That's all. Thank you. bows slams head on table __________________

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corefire Member Join Date: Dec 2014	that intrastng and plasable. but i think my thory is a little more plasable but not by much. the sepharot tree is a system i think its more likely to use common numers but the wiriter could put in that twist just to catch us off gard by the way thank you for the info.

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corefire Member Join Date: Dec 2014	2vol for #6. 2vol for #2. 2 vol for phantom. 6-12 or 8-16 depending wehter 6 and 2 did or did not have Inverse conted in their intoductory volumes. = 12-18 low 14-22 high.

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AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Obviously it won't be over 20 volumes since I think the author mentioned a while ago that the series already reached halfway mark.