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He is still as cool now as he was before. Sasuke for life! | 55 | 16.87% | |
Give the guy some slack, after all his entire family was murdered | 56 | 17.18% | |
Never liked him, never hated him | 81 | 24.85% | |
Yeah, I am beginning to hate him now. | 45 | 13.80% | |
Sasuke deserves to die! A.S.S for life! | 89 | 27.30% | |
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2004-06-23, 19:00 | Link #41 | |
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My bad for not explaining it well, when i said that Sasuke had learned all that he has to learn from Kakashi. I knew that Kakashi had 1,000 jutsu at his disposal and could have teached to Sasuke, but those jutsu aren't as powerful as a Sannin's jutsus. That was my reason for saying that he had learned everything that Kakashi had to offer. |
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2004-06-23, 19:04 | Link #42 | |
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Well Sasuke was not going to go to Orochimaru until the Sound Four decided to beat him up and promise him power to kill Itachi. |
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2004-06-23, 19:12 | Link #43 | ||||
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Now back to what I was saying, Naruto did use some of his chakra or whatever it was to transform Gambuta into kyuubi. He also punched Gaara awake. If I remember correctly, he hit gaara wiht a fatal hit leaving Gaara helpless. He was still moving after all that. Now rewind back to Neji. He was "SMART" enough to do a kage bunshi in replacement of him while he dig his way to vicotry. His whole scene fooled everyone! HOW is that not smart? He also did the same to kiba. AND don't forget that his fight against Kiba was WITHOUT the kyuubi. Quote:
If Naruto dies, the Kyuubi dies. THEY ARE ONE. If Sasuke dies, his sharingan dies. they are one. It also wasn't Naruto's decision to have the kyuubi inside of him. SO how is naruto and kyuubi different from sasuke and his sharingan again? and one more thing.. READ MY SIG!!! |
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2004-06-23, 19:37 | Link #44 | |||
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It was true that Naruto was crafty during the battle, but then again, one could argue that Neji was really underestimating Naruto. Kabuto, being on the same level as Kakashi, got a dose of Rasengan to the abdomen because he overly underestimated Naruto. But Naruto's craftiness has next to nothing to do with the victory of Gaara. Last edited by sheen; 2004-06-23 at 19:53. |
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2004-06-23, 20:55 | Link #45 | ||||
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Naruto's craftiness was the ticket to his victory. |
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2004-06-23, 21:18 | Link #46 | ||||
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If I remember correctly, Gamabunta asked for Naruto's help with Henge. It was not Naruto's Kyubi chakra but the chakra of Gamabunta. No, it is not safe to say that Kyubi's chakra is Naruto's chakra. It has been made clear that Naruto's chakra is blue and Kyubi's Chakra is red. It is only safe to say that Kyubi's chakra is mixing with Naruto's Chakra. Yes, Naruto is still moving afterwards, but it's an over-statement to say that it was a fatal hit. Quote:
How did Naruto's craftiness lead to his victory in the fight against Gaara? His craftiness may have been a factor against Neji, but I don't remember anything intelligently creative against Gaara. |
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2004-06-23, 22:01 | Link #48 |
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Truthfully, I have adored Sasuke ever since he told off Sakura/stood up for Naruto. But now, you gotta admit that Sasuke is such an ungrateful butt. Big deal if his brother betrayed him and he lost his family and his faith in humanity. By now, he should have figured out that people in Konoha do care about him and would probably be willing to help him. He only needs to ask.
I don't think Jiraiya would refuse him, and Naruto would probably be happy/mock-angry to have a rival under the same teacher. Besides, it's not like he is THE strongest in Konoha, so any jounin would have been able to help him become stronger. Orochimaru's not gonna care, really- he's just gonna possess Sasuke, train for a couple of years, and when/if he does kill Itachi, Sasuke will be ugly and unrecognizable as an Uchiha if he wears colored contacts. He's a dumbass for thinking that he can outsmart Orochimaru. Sasuke's main problem is that he consistently underestimates his enemy. This isn't just arrogance, it's blind arrogance, and that is the difference between Sasuke and Neji/Gaara/Naruto/the rest of the male genin. |
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2004-06-23, 22:51 | Link #50 |
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ok.. the chakra used for the gama bunta transformation was gama bunta's , he lent naruto his own chakra , but naruto had to do the hand seals , and to think of sumthing to turn into, gamabunta DIDNOT turn into the kyuubi. its like when Iruka was teaching them how to disquise themselves and naruto had to look like the 3rd. he just made gamabunta look like a fox to givehim claws and teeth, it wasnt kyuubi.
as of right now kyuubi chakra is sumwhat seprate from naruto. but there chakra's are slowly mixing together and combining , the more naruto relies on kyuubi chakra the more they kinda mix. its been said in the anime and manga a few times in the beggining that there chakra's are slowly mixxing. if u rmemeber when orochimaru put a seal on the seal to stop the kyuubi chakra. well.. naruto had alot of truble walking on the water with that seal on because there chakra's are mixxing so that oro's seal also sealed sum of naruto's chakra . becuase obviously naruto wasnt kyuubified after jariaya unsealed oro's seal. but naruto just had no problem walkin on the water after it was unsealed and pernicious , quit contradicting yurself, no offence, but ... do u read yur posts ? u contradict yurself |
2004-06-23, 23:02 | Link #52 |
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I'm too lazy to pick out quotes, so here's my reasoning for why Sasuke sucks. (Yeah, I said it, so bring on the flames.)
His attitude was cool for about...nine seconds. After that, it got old. I don't want to hear anything else about his god damn ambition, and his narcissism doesn't impress me. Most characters in Naruto are pretty one dimensional, but very few of them are as staggeringly annoying about it as Sasuke. Furthermore, he gets to rant and rave about his strength as long as he can back it up, which means he doesn't. He has been beaten thoroughly on several occasions, but never seems to let that stand in the way of his ego. He seems to ignore the fact that Konoha is filled with ninjas stronger and/or smarter than he is, and is hell bent on rushing to serve a master he now knows wants him for nothing but his body. Arrogant and stupid, a combination not to be taken lightly. For those angry Sasuke followers who complain that Neji has much the same attitude, so why don't I complain about him, I have a wonderful answer. Unlike Sasuke, Neji stopped. He followed that rule up above, about getting to be a dick as long as he could back it up. He lost to Naruto and then stopped. He shut up about destiny and fate and strength and became exponentially less of an asshole. Too bad Sasuke only seems to be tolerable on the verge of death. It's my personal opinion that he should be put into such a position more often. I almost felt bad when he "died." I now regret that he didn't. To sum up why I hate him one last time: Arrogant Boring Stupid (If he's not, he sure puts on a good show) Please: Don't turn my post into anything about Naruto, as Sasuke fanboys are wont to do. Garbage such as "you just hate Sasuke cuz you're a Naruto fanboy" need not be posted. Konohamaru 4 life. |
2004-06-23, 23:04 | Link #53 |
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While many MANY other people have moreof a stick up their asses than Sasuke (Neji comes to mind) only Sasuke (and Orochimaru and Itachi) actually betrays their village to gain that strength.
And yes, it is betraying. He signed up for what is essencially Konoha's army, recieved training, and worked for them. Him leaving that group to join the enemy is treason and punishable by death (for very obvious reasons). Him taking the Sharingan with him only makes it worse. And yes, he does have an obligation beyond loyaly to his families and friends NOT to join Orochimaru because Orochimaru. IS. Evil. It sickens me that Sasuke fan-whores would resort to saying that Orochimaru is not evil in order to boost the status of Sasuke. |
2004-06-23, 23:06 | Link #54 | |
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Sasuke WAS learning to have faith in humanity, as you put it, again. READ THE MANGA! Then Itachi comes and forces him to relive the worst day in his life for 24 hours straight. It took Sasuke years to learn to trust and allow people to become close to him again. Itachi comes and tortures him, calling him weak, telling him he's not strong enough yet and to hate more if he wants to defeat him, while he's attacking Sasuke's mind. That's going to mess you up, Itachi was almost programing Sasuke what to think there. Itachi knows what he's doing when it comes to Sasuke, he knows how to control him. Haters just don't want to see Sasuke's WHOLE character, they want to pick and choose the parts of him that help proved the reasons to hate him. It's pathetic. Naruto is a flawless character, he's perfect at everything. He's the perfect loser, then winner, he can learn everything, yet still retain his I'm a bad student character, he always looks like the outclassed character in a fight, yet not only wins in the end but makes the other character look pathetic, he is a loud mouth boastful character, yet when needed he is humble. Naruto is everything the idea hero is meant to be PERFECT. I hate seeing this, because Naruto was a very good character at first, but he seems to be going the way of a male Mary Sue. Sasuke is not perfect, he is very human, he has flaws. He doesn't always win, he's not always the strongest, he can admit mistakes and not admit mistakes. He cares, yet his hate for his brother can blind him. I can understand him completely. Naruto is the one I have a hard time relating to, he's perfect. |
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2004-06-23, 23:12 | Link #56 | |||
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Anyway, I'm not sure if I should keep this thread open much longer considering that it's turning into the How can you not like Sasuke? thread again. most of these arguments are already in that thread yet this thread is more...specific. |
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2004-06-23, 23:19 | Link #57 | ||
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2004-06-23, 23:19 | Link #58 | |
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2004-06-23, 23:20 | Link #59 | |
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2004-06-23, 23:24 | Link #60 | |
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I like you. *thumbs up* |
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