[Game] Umineko - Spoilers, Theories, Interpretations

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Hareoic

Spoiler for You have no idea:

Expect lots of explosions and budget breaking wars of red vs blue truth.

And an instance of yellow truth, I think. I don't know what that was.

No, that's when you use the back log, remember?

EDIT:

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Spoiler for Ep 5:

It's called golden truth and only GMs can use it

WAIT IT SERIOUSLY HAPPENS?!?

...Wow.



Seriously, this show will have more epic fights than Code Geass and Macross Frontier and Neon Genesis Evangelion combined at this rate,

[Hareoic]

At this rate, I think the Meta-World will become the Metaphor-World, what with these blades of red truth and shotguns of blue truth and Cap'n Crunches of rules of mystery books.

[Kamar]

Spoiler for Fuuuuuuuuuu----------:

SO, I managed to nuke a huge novel of summary just now by accident. Anyways, cliff notes version:

Moar BatBeato, to the max.

Okay, I'll give you more than that.

Battler considers the situation, and thinks for a moment that the real number of people is...then Beato starts grabbing her chest and groaning. He tells her not to worry. He puts his hand over hers, and using the blue text, crafts a theory that since nothing is said about Kinzo's life/death before the game board, or the number of people on the island before then, there is nothing wrong about what he sees.

As he does so, blue light goes into her chest and melts the red truth. She gets a tear, then her expression more or less disappears. However, looking at her eyes, he notices she looks sad, and relieved. He gets embarrassed looking at such pure eyes, and averts his gaze. Beato looks down, and he looks away, but neither moves their hand away.

He says not to misunderstand; he has no reason to fight her outside of the game board of the conference in 1986. So he won't deny her any time but then. He also considers the fact that he can now recognize in some way that his Beato is the same arrogant one he has always fought. He starts talking about the game again. He says a lot of stuff, but it basically boils down to wanting, as much as to know about the murder, to know about Beato. What she was, what she wanted, what she did, what she hoped for in her actions.

He ends, saying something about the gameboard, LD and witches which I couldn't quite de-gibberish.

Ok. Back to not-cliffnotes.

Whatever he says makes Beato respond, she nods her head slightly. Battler talks about how while the seat of gamemaster is held by LD and manipulated by the witches, the fight is still between Beato and him.

The game will begin soon.

Meta scene over~

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Volcanic

No, that's when you use the back log, remember?

EDIT:


WAIT IT SERIOUSLY HAPPENS?!?

...Wow.



Seriously, this show will have more epic fights than Code Geass and Macross Frontier and Neon Genesis Evangelion combined at this rate,

Spoiler for Ep 5:

Battler uses it to confirm Kinzo's corpse

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Hareoic

At this rate, I think the Meta-World will become the Metaphor-World, what with these blades of red truth and shotguns of blue truth

And let's not forget

Spoiler for EP5:

The stabby, stabby knives of Golden Truth!

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Spoiler for Ep 5:

Battler uses it to confirm Kinzo's corpse

So how does it work?

Sorry to bombard you with questions...

[TsundereCake]

Originally Posted by Kamar

Spoiler for Fuuuuuuuuuu----------:

As he does so, blue light goes into her chest and melts the red truth. She gets a tear, then her expression more or less disappears. However, looking at her eyes, he notices she looks sad, and relieved. He gets embarrassed looking at such pure eyes, and averts his gaze. Beato looks down, and he looks away, but neither moves their hand away.

*Diesofmoeoverload*



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[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

So how does it work?

Sorry to bombard you with questions...

Spoiler for Ep 5:

It's hard to explain but basically it's a truth that can't be countered

[Volcanic]

Originally Posted by Kamar

Spoiler for Fuuuuuuuuuu----------:

SO, I managed to nuke a huge novel of summary just now by accident. Anyways, cliff notes version:

Moar BatBeato, to the max.

Okay, I'll give you more than that.

Battler considers the situation, and thinks for a moment that the real number of people is...then Beato starts grabbing her chest and groaning. He tells her not to worry. He puts his hand over hers, and using the blue text, crafts a theory that since nothing is said about Kinzo's life/death before the game board, or the number of people on the island before then, there is nothing wrong about what he sees.

As he does so, blue light goes into her chest and melts the red truth. She gets a tear, then her expression more or less disappears. However, looking at her eyes, he notices she looks sad, and relieved. He gets embarrassed looking at such pure eyes, and averts his gaze. Beato looks down, and he looks away, but neither moves their hand away.

He says not to misunderstand; he has no reason to fight her outside of the game board of the conference in 1986. So he won't deny her any time but then. He also considers the fact that he can now recognize in some way that his Beato is the same arrogant one he has always fought. He starts talking about the game again. He says a lot of stuff, but it basically boils down to wanting, as much as to know about the murder, to know about Beato. What she was, what she wanted, what she did, what she hoped for in her actions.

He ends, saying something about the gameboard, LD and witches which I couldn't quite de-gibberish.

Ok. Back to not-cliffnotes.

Whatever he says makes Beato respond, she nods her head slightly. Battler talks about how while the seat of gamemaster is held by LD and manipulated by the witches, the fight is still between Beato and him.

The game will begin soon.

Meta scene over~

Dear god. *nosebleed*

Spoiler for EP5:

Yeah, I think this leads into the "exploring Beato's thoghts" sequence, with Battler wanting to know more about Beato.

Also, Battler and Coma-Beato should have a staring contest

[Hareoic]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Spoiler for Ep 5:

It's hard to explain but basically it's a truth that can't be countered

Spoiler for EP 5:

It's used to confirm his corpse? How so?

[Kamar]

Spoiler for I might not have much left in my guys..I mean, it was time to go to sleep when I started xD:

The scene opens with Genji. He is talking about the secret of...some word that didn't translate with Shannon and Kanon. Shannon says she knows, and Kanon says "An identical hand must once more not run or doubt", whatever the hell THAT means.

Ah, makes sense now. They are discussing this year's hide Kinzo plot. This year, they will go with "Doesn't leave the study at all".

Shannon asks if Genji will close himself in there, then, for the time. He says yes(?!). And only three will be allowed to enter the study. The three servants with the family crest, I think it says. Kanon tries to get Shannon taken off duty, so she doesn't have to bear the burden, but Genji says it can't be done with only them, that they must strictly obey the orders of Natsuhi. Shannon agrees. Kanon calls her a name or something, and she retorts immediately with her own insult. Then...uh, not sure at all what this says.

Genji reminds them that the study isn't empty. Kinzo is in there studying diligently every day, and not to forget it. The two agree.

Scene change

I'm gonna have to stop here, because I'm losing my ability to read quickly, reinterpret this lol translation, and relay it coherently. Look forward to continued posts in about 5-7 hours. Also, it would be AWESOME if someone would compile the summary thus far, but I'll do it when I get up if noone wants to

[metronome]

Now the more I think about this

Spoiler:

may be batler is indeed doesnt wanna come back to ange in reality. he is so into beatrice that finally he himself fill in her position.

now for some reason I cant wait his debut as an endless sorcerer and enter the mansion as the master! imagine those surprised look on george, jessica, rudolf, etc on the next ep6 game:P

[TsundereCake]

Originally Posted by metronome

Now the more I think about this

Spoiler:

may be batler is indeed doesnt wanna come back to ange in reality. he is so into beatrice that finally he himself fill in her position.

girlfriends > sisters? *shot*

[chibi_nekoi]

Originally Posted by metronome

Now the more I think about this

Spoiler:

may be batler is indeed doesnt wanna come back to ange in reality. he is so into beatrice that finally he himself fill in her position.

now for some reason I cant wait his debut as an endless sorcerer and enter the mansion as the master! imagine those surprised look on george, jessica, rudolf, etc on the next ep6 game:P

So basically Battler is turning into a new Kinzo

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by metronome

Spoiler:

may be batler is indeed doesnt wanna come back to ange in reality.

Spoiler:

Technically, he's already done that, since he, Rudolf and Kyrie survived the last game. So, Ange got reunited with her family.

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by chibi_nekoi

So basically Battler is turning into a new Kinzo

Alternatively, he was Kinzo to begin with.

[metronome]

Originally Posted by TsundereCake

girlfriends > sisters? *shot*

well, if you compare it to my situation....I am closer to my gf than my sister............dunno if this sounds good or not LOL.

[chibi_nekoi]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Alternatively, he was Kinzo to begin with.

Well, there was time that I thought about the Meta-Battler=Kinzo theory. It does make sense somehow

[Cruor]

Can anyone tell me the method the first Twilight was killed and hidden (if hidden at all)? Where Battler was during the Twilight (I heard it took place on the first day)? And what time Erika appeared (just 'cause the body count went up could still mean someone is pretending like philosophically this 'personality' or act could just a pure one that had nothing to do with the murders and used the collective knowledge from the real personality)?

Edit: Oh yeah, and one of the most important: Did everyone seriously live long enough to go home? Besides the people of the first Twilight of course. In other words: did everyone for instance die before the storm settled besides Hideyoshi.

Edit2: Another thing. Someone mentioned everyone saw a magic battle between who and who and what the hell exactly happened?

[shokku]

Spoiler for colorful text:

In the end of that one battle where the yellow text appears, when they were ... using red text in blue text... I think I said "if they're going to do that, just use purple text or something..." then that yellow line appeared... I was just like O___O. Though I was just Ctrl-ing through the entire thing, so I probably missed something there... but still...

I'm going to have to go figure out what that said now...