The Landscaping Club

[Seitsuki]

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Eh heh, it looks like there are finally a few more artists coming in :D

...is what I'd like to say, but we are still too few! A new work gets posted maybe once a week.. the artists group has a coupla hundred members but no new posts (or at least hardly ever art related).. and on.. in short, this is a recruiting drive! Come on, pick up your pen and get to work!

In order to facilitate this, I've kidnapped borrowed invited over resident NEET and occasional doodler (I just made that up) Houraisan Kaguya to help us show aspiring artists the way to happiness! Come on up here, Kaguyan ☆

PLAN

The first, vital step, which most people underlook! It's alright to have a vision in your head, but seriously having it before you is so much more useful. I used to never do this, and run into all sorts of problems later- size, pose, etcetc. Just something really rough will do, and don't worry about proportions yet: the most important thing is to get the groundwork laid down.

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FRAME

Possibly the most important step, and yet again also one skipped very often. This is the part where you actually draw out the framework of your characters, and it's invaluable in getting your proportions right- easy to edit, easy to visualise, and a good reference later on for anatomy and whatnot. This section is pretty much inspired by Andrew Loomis's entreaty on the mannikin (I believe his book is free domain now, and can be found here; however if you're serious about art I recommend you buy it- having the book in front of you is so much better.)

Since he explains it all so much better than me, I won't bother saying too much :P

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OUTLINE

Now you're ready to flesh out the figure. Once again there isn't much to say but here are some pointers:

There are general proportions that you should keep to in order to achieve an aesthetically comfortable figure: they're drawn out in case you can't be bothered reading the book. They are:

-Waist a third of the way down.
-Hips in the middle.
-Knees two thirds down.

There are others of course but generally speaking you should feel free to experiment.

Oh and a general hint for drawing the head: start with a circle then add the face below. Yeah head shape has always been a pain in the ass for me too. You get used to it xD (or just stop caring..)

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DRAFTING

Now that you have your figure, you can start hanging clothes off them! Keep it rough for now, and pay attention to folds/creases as well as potential areas of light/shadow. Ensure the flow of the cloth conforms to the natural body lines and its movement.

Note: you may prefer to do the face before this. I usually do. Doesn't really matter, as they shouldn't interfere with each other too much.

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LINEART

Now for the fun part! Go over what you've drafted, except this time carefully and keeping things neat. You'll note I've used different colours; this generally isn't necessary if you're uncomfortable with it and you should feel free to start off just using black. This is also a good time to start considering your light sources.

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Just quickly: here's how I ended up doing the head. Guidelines are useful, and indeed were used, but I appear to have erased them before saving the pic. Anyways there are better tuts for that stuff out there >.>

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FINISHING

Congratulations, you're pretty much done!~ Now just do some generally tidying up, finishing touches etc. It's all easy by now.

Spoiler for finished lineart (sortta). kira.:

And there you have it! Now, go forth my children! Go forth and conquer!

Will add parts for colouring, if anyone's interested. But seriously, go out and draw something first.

[Seitsuki]

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Decided that this might be more useful for now. What's great colouring worth if your figure itself doesn't look right? Well, probably more, since it's easier to fix Not a lot! So in order to go through today's quick lesson, we've managed to force coerce blackmail persuade over lunar rabbit Reisen Udongein to help out with the proceedings. Good for more than just sex appeal right?

Anyways first off:

BOX

Remember that frame from earlier? Well, it turns out it's compact enough to stick it inside a box! How convenient is that?? (don't forget to keep your proportions though)

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USING THE BOX

Now that you have said box, you can quickly and easily orient your figure to whatever perspective/pose you want. Sitting down? Just fold in the middle and at the knees. Looking from the bottom up? Increase box size lower down, decrease going up. When you've got the plane you're looking for, you can start filling out your frame

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PERSPECTIVE/HORIZON LINES

Whilst not always necessary, this is a good way to check that your features (knees, shoulders etc) line up to a common point. The closer your point is, the more extreme the perspective will be (of course). This means that you might have to extend your canvas a bit if you want to use them for most pictures.

NOTE: the horizon line (horizontal one) is common for *all* features/characters in your pic. Make sure everything lineｓ up against it!

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INDIVIDUAL PERSPECTIVES

Now that's great, but you'll soon see a problem- not every feature will have a start point in common/line up nicely with the perspective lines, or maybe they're in a different direction altogether. For these, you have to map out their own guidelines.

-First, find your start point: generally these will be joints such as the elbow/shoulders.

-Next draw out rough shapes of the appendage extended to the two extremes: apical/basal, proximal/distal, whatever; these are the terminals of your arc.

-Now imagine where your desired angle would result in the limb sticking out: the more into/out of the page the shorter the radius will be. There aren't really any complicated methods/formulae to this, just go with what looks about right.

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LINEART (familiar?)

Yep, it's that time again. Remember: always draft something rough first to ensure you have something to work with and aren't just trying to carve it out on the first go- that takes much more time and is also much harder. This one was done all in black.

Spoiler for and done. Ignore those shoes >.>:

That's it! Once again, these aren't the most informative things out there and if you want more info on this stuff I redirect you to Andrew Loomis's book. Still, the most important component is of course practice.

とにかく、また後でね　：D

[Seitsuki]

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Well, nothing else for it I guess.

Alright, now it's back to Kaguya sensei! Let's see what she has prepared for us!

NOTE: there are countless colouring styles and methods out there (obviously). This one is one I've found to be fast, easy, and effective. Feel free to develop your own style once you have the basics.

-STANDARD COLOURING-

FLATS

Your base colours. Everything will come off this, so be sure to pick them well! As you'll be adding both light and shadow, it's recommended that you pick something a bit in between. This will usually be the main body of colour. Also if you haven't already by now, decide on where your light sources are.

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SHADE

Now with your light source in mind, start to imagine where shadows would fall. Don't go overboard: this is (probably) going to end up being the darkest part of the figure and you shouldn't overpower the other colours.

Don't be too fussed about accuracy, real life shadow physics are insanely hard even with a reference. Just go with something that looks about right.

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INTERMEDIATES

This is to fill in the colour gap between your light flat and darker shade. How many you use depends on you; I've been lazy and just gone with one but the more you have the more natural the figure will look once you hit blending. Or at least that's the idea. Once again though: don't go overboard.

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SMOOTHING

Blend everything together. I've said this for pretty much every step so far but now it's most important: do NOT go overboard. It's very tempting to abuse the blur tool; I used to do that alot as well but the result is not pretty. Note that in real life when transitioning from areas of light to shadow, there is usually very little in between: enlarging this gap too much will potentially result in an unnatural look. This is generally less noticeable over smooth areas but discretion is still advised.

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LIGHTING

After you've finished the shade, you can begin actually applying light: this is usually the easiest part. Simply imagine shining a giant torch on your figure from your light sources, and apply light (usually a white pen/airbrush with layer adjusted opacity) wherever it would fall. For a simple way of gradienting light imagine drybrushing a model: increase frequency and intensity of strokes nearer to the light source.

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-SHADOW COLOURING-

This is pretty much the same thing, except with one main difference: instead of having to fret over what intermediate colours to use you just use black. Hooray for choice!

This method is generally used for pictures under very low light conditions: at night/inside for example. However if you really tweak the opacity of the darkness you can also use this technique to add shade to areas with many different colours you'd have trouble applying shade to normally, like a multicoloured coat.

Will be going through this fast, as it's pretty much exactly the same thing as before.

Since Kaguya sensei is away due to very important and vital matters, and totally not because I didn't manage to prepare something for her earlier, we have a guest lecturer for this session. Please welcome the guy with the hat :D

FLATS

As per standard.

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SHADE

The easiest step by far. Just slap it on. (The holes are bits I've erased to stimulate light leaking through: this is pic specific so don't worry about them.)

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THE REST OF THE SHADE, SMOOTHING, ETCETC

As before. This time however as you only have one base colour, your "intermediates" will really only be different layers of black at different opacity levels.

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LIGHT

Depending on the setting, this can either be rather intense if there's a large light source or just be rather ambient.

Spoiler for it burns! D:

Annd that concludes this session! With any luck, you'll be getting the hang of this stuff pretty fast. The key is simply repetition.


hm, out of ideas for now. any requests/suggestions? :P

[Patchy]

Woah... this is a very important lesson for a person who doesn't have a knowledge on drawing ~_~....

thanks for this one Seit-sama..!!!

oh on a side note... Eirin and Keine are better to be a sensei than the neet princess lol...

[Seitsuki]

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Eh heh, thanks! Hopefully we'll have more artists coming in, it's kinda lonely how much we're outnumbered by you designers.. :P especially seeing how I can't do that kinda stuff to save my life

And I did consider those two, but I finally went with Kaguyan because:

-I can empathise with a fellow hikikomori better and
-Eirin and Keine's clothes are way too hard to draw

On a side note I'm trying to improve my CG technique atm, here's where it's at if you're interested

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<---my face when I finally realised what I was doing

The hair is the hardest part, everyone makes it look so damn easy but getting the toning/gradients right is a nightmare..

[Endless Soul]

Nice tutorial.

I'm pretty sure the answer is obvious, but I'm going to ask anyway since I didn't see it mentioned. Are you using multiple layers of paper and using the one beneath as a reference?

[synaesthetic]

It's digital art, probably done in Photoshop, GIMP or Paint Shop Pro, and yes, layers are liberally used.

[Endless Soul]

<squints old eyes>

I guess you're right. At first glance those looked like pencil lines.

[synaesthetic]

If a tablet is used in a raster-based image editor like PS, it's basically the same in appearance. You can identify digital art a lot easier with vector-based drawing apps like Illustrator, where the lines are very crisp and smooth and don't have that pencil-stroke quality.

[Seitsuki]

Originally Posted by Endless Soul

Nice tutorial.

I'm pretty sure the answer is obvious, but I'm going to ask anyway since I didn't see it mentioned. Are you using multiple layers of paper and using the one beneath as a reference?

Sorry for the late reply, currently on the road ATM touring America.. damn the place is hot ^^; and typing this out on an itouch in the ass end of nowhere in the desert is utter pain..

To be exact, I'm using paint tool SAI for illustrations. The different lines are done on layers, which can be manipulated seperately for easier editing.

[Patchy]

Originally Posted by Seitsuki

Eh heh, thanks! Hopefully we'll have more artists coming in, it's kinda lonely how much we're outnumbered by you designers.. :P especially seeing how I can't do that kinda stuff to save my life

And I did consider those two, but I finally went with Kaguyan because:

-I can empathise with a fellow hikikomori better and
-Eirin and Keine's clothes are way too hard to draw

On a side note I'm trying to improve my CG technique atm, here's where it's at if you're interested

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<---my face when I finally realised what I was doing

The hair is the hardest part, everyone makes it look so damn easy but getting the toning/gradients right is a nightmare..

I think there are lots of artists here... they're just hiding beneath the shadows lol... and some gfx designer can draw too.. (I think I'm the only one who can't ~_~ )..

Haha... maybe you need to be dragged out outside liked Kaguya-hime... dragged by a Tewi like person lol...

and agree Keine's suit is really complicated... Eirin's suit on the other hand is quite simple but have two colors ~_~... plus a hat on top of that lol...

Kaguya-hime is sweating ~_~ maybe it took some time to color her? btw nice job... on it, I remembered while I browsing pixiv something similar... but it is Kaguya-hime's different emotions XD...

[Seitsuki]

But but, I have been dragged outside.. >< well kicked out more like, since I've just been dumped by myself in America.. Sneaking around in mcdonalds for the wifi and 'borrowing' the new iPad I brought for my Neechan (hooray bigger screen!) so no updates for awhile..

[Seitsuki]

The lights in the sky are all stars


Following recent events, I have decided to renounce all worldly desires until time has healed all wounds and the flow of life may begin again. Meanwhile I will be calming myself and honing my skills in the practical application of scenery.

Some of my earliest stuff.

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Unfortunately in terms of technique I am still very much limited to blur, mostly because I have yet to find out how to use the stupid brush tool properly. Same problem applies especially to clouds. Any tips in that general direction would be much appreciated.


Thought for the day: Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.

[Seitsuki]

This one was not my fault.



Thought for the day: It doesn’t matter how slow you go, as long as you don’t stop.

[Ryonea]

Just browsed your whole thread very interesting stuffs you have, especially those tutorials. They're definitely useful, especially the one about perspective since I'm always having trouble with those.

And it's always nice to see some artists over here. Hope you can keep drawing

[Seitsuki]

Those old images are still alive?



Thought for the day: Every man dies. Not every man really lives.

[Ryonea]

Yeah, they are.

Who is the girl in your drawing, btw? is she an existing character or your original creation? pardon me since I don't really know / watch many series

[winhlp32]

I enjoyed reading that coloring tutorial. Very comprehensive and easy to understand. I usually just have a flats, a shade, maybe a darker shade and that's it.

Really like those skies too. Keep up the good work.

[Assort Dis]

Very helpful resources here. Although I can only view the perspective and coloring ones but they are precisely what I need. Now it seems it'll take time to apply those in my drawing.

Thank you for sharing.

[Seitsuki]

Rereading those older posts is surprisingly painful. It's like chuuni all over. Glad you found them useful, although tbh I think I really had no business trying tutorials when my own skill level was/is so terrible.

@Ryonea: The character is Patchouli_Knowledge from Touhou and in no way related to a certain forum member here nor does it reflect any feelings on my part whatsoever.