Macross Frontier (Macross 25) general discussion [No Spoilers]

[bishopcruz]

Does anyone know what episodes of Macross radio these were? It looks like some of the questions out there have to do with being unable to locate the actual interview.

[Swampstorm]

From the looks of it, the Ohnogi interviews start with the week just after episode 18 aired. If I remember correctly, the numbering of the radio show segments corresponded with the episode titles while the show was still airing. I used to click the link each week for the picture slideshow that came with it.

The official site seems to be up to 52 radio segments in total now, and given that the series ended around six months (or 24 weeks) ago, the numbering seems to make sense.

[Natsuki Hyuga]

Macross F Super Galaxy Fanclub site opened!

[Kikuchi]

Last bluray came out.

Anyone knows what is the "Full Length Edition" of episode 25 ? :x

[DeX-kun]

Originally Posted by Kikuchi

Last bluray came out.

Anyone knows what is the "Full Length Edition" of episode 25 ? :x

I heard they just extended the scene where Nanase wakes up from the coma a little and instead of playing the credits along with some scene at the end, they played the credits separately to make the episode seem longer. They did change up a couple of things though but nothing major.

[BetoJR]

Hence, another troll by the masters.

[Kikuchi]

Oh well, I wasn't expecting much :/

[AnimeTheme]

I am looking forward to the last volume of BluRay... to complete my Macross F gadget animation LOL

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by DeX-kun

I heard they just extended the scene where Nanase wakes up from the coma a little and instead of playing the credits along with some scene at the end, they played the credits separately to make the episode seem longer. They did change up a couple of things though but nothing major.

Frontier fleet getting the heck blown out of it while Alto is knocked out. Planet Eden appeared among those being invaded.

[Yot-chan]

I translated this interview with Hiroyuki Yoshino over the weekend and posted it on MacrossWorld. It's from the Macross F Official Fan Book, p. 92. It's only the first part of the interview...in the rest he talks about Klan in the movie, and the love triangle nobody noticed (Mishima/Grace/Birla). Anyway, enjoy!

Hiroyuki Yoshino was Frontier's series organizer and its scriptwriter.

- I've heard about it in many places already, but since a lot of people are talking about it, let's start witht the love triangle. The love of Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl...why didn't you conclude it?

Yoshino: Whether or not to conclude it was quite a last-minute decision, actually. Like, looking at the final scene, inside everyone...we never explicitly stated it, but..."which will win, who will stick together?" It shouldn't become that kind of attitude. "It might not have to be like that," was the feeling I got.
Every member of the staff spoke out about it, but for a quiet and unsociable person like Alto to act naturally, he should love the sky more than girls, right? So, you can't force a decision, you have to let the other people choose their own path.
"Won't the fans be angry about it?"
"Yeah. But, well, that's okay. I'm prepared for that."
That was the kind of conversations I had. Afterwards, when everyone had given different feedback, I think Kawamori-san got a little upset. At least, he looked worried about it.
However, when we went to see the Budokan Concert, and saw Sheryl and Ranka sharing the same stage, I said to Kawamori-san, "Not having a conclusion was good, wasn't it?" "Yes, it was. Looking at it now, and looking at the stage, it seems like it would feel kind of strange if we had had one.*" (Laughs)

- But wait. Of course saying that Alto loves the sky is fine up to a point, but in episode 22, he and Sheryl end up staying together all night... Recently, I've been talking with the voice actors, and there's been some talk about that. I heard there was a great uproar that was very funny.

Yoshino: (laughs). Certainly, whatever happened between those two created a lot of anxiety. I won't talk about any of this, it's better to leave it to the imagination...
During the voice recording for the original image and storyboard image (Note: the final animation hadn't yet been completed), we ended up creating a somewhat indecent version for the rough cut with "Oh..." sighs from the voice actors and even from the staff in the booth on this side.
But no. I wonder what what really did happen that night? Only Alto and Sheryl know the truth.

- Won't this "Indecent Cut" be resurrected on the BD and DVD!?

Yoshino: Hmmm, what should we do with it? Rather than look forward to it in the TV version, what about the movie...? We're considering how to get it out there. We could also use it for publicity (laughs).

- And one more thing about this: Alto's strange advance continues. In Episode 23, he says "Ranka is the reason I joined S.M.S." In 24, he says "I'll return to you" to Sheryl... And at the end, it's "Both of you are my wings"!

Yoshino: I think Alto doesn't have much self-awareness. Unreflective and a little obnoxious (laughs). Just speaking personally, in episode 24 when he leaves Sheryl, in that conversation the two of them have before he goes off to battle, I think his real feelings, which he didn't even understand himself, spilled out.
But of course, thank goodness that doesn't settle it! Fans of both girls try to support them, saying things about the ending like "He was heading towards Ranka!" and "No! Sheryl won!" and it's best that people see it however they want to see it. There are as many different endings as there are people who watch the show, and the feeling is that no one is insisting they stay quiet about it.

*Thankfully, Renato (at Macrossworld) finally clarified this. Since the Budokan show happened a week or so after the end of Frontier, it would have felt strange looking at the stage and seeing one girl as a winner and the other as a loser.

[cheesie]

Thank you, Yot-Chan, for taking your time to translate this article. It's a really good read, and I'm sure will answer a lot of people's questions (especially the one regarding Kawamori. )

Now that I managed to stay coherent for ten seconds...

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

- Won't this "Indecent Cut" be resurrected on the BD and DVD!?

Yoshino: Hmmm, what should we do with it? Rather than look forward to it in the TV version, what about the movie...? We're considering how to get it out there. We could also use it for publicity (laughs).

I...I...

*Cheesie's mind is blown*

[forgottendiary]

Lol, poor Alto's character has been butchered once again. Thank you very much, Mr Yoshino.

<_< /sarcasm

Next thing we know, something like, "Alto never chose a girl because he's sexually confused. Kthxbai! And marketing."

He's like saying there was no point at all in Alto's decision to stay behind Frontier because he just randomly thought of it and more importantly, never understood why he did so. Psh! Lame, Scriptwriter-san, just lame.

(Thanks, Yot-chan for the trans ^_^)

OTOH:

I say, bring us the schmut!

[incorrupts]

"Certainly, whatever happened between those two created a lot of anxiety. I won't talk about any of this, it's better to leave it to the imagination..."

Alright, this breeds fans, with kinky imagination. Fans, like me. 8D

Thanks for the translation ~

[forgottendiary]

Originally Posted by incorrupts

"Certainly, whatever happened between those two created a lot of anxiety. I won't talk about any of this, it's better to leave it to the imagination..."

Alright, this breeds fans, with kinky imagination. Fans, like me. 8D

Thanks for the translation ~

And me~ ;DDD

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by forgottendiary

And me~ ;DDD

Well, let us generalize for once. All the AltoxSheryl fans. Haha. It is the ship's fault, that has an air of kink-tease. 8D

[forgottendiary]

Originally Posted by incorrupts

Well, let us generalize for once. All the AltoxSheryl fans. Haha. It is the ship's fault, that has an air of kink-tease. 8D

You mean like this?

Spoiler for NC17:

Alto: Sheryl, wait...*huff* it's too tight
Sheryl: And that's my fault? *huff* Stop forcing it! Here, let me help you...
Alto: Nnn--! *phew* Sheryl, yes, you're amazing! That totally did it!






Alto & Sheryl forcing a glass jar open tightly capped. Don't you just hate these things?

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by forgottendiary

You mean like this?

Spoiler for NC17:

Alto: Sheryl, wait...*huff* it's too tight
Sheryl: And that's my fault? *huff* Stop forcing it! Here, let me help you...
Alto: N---! *phew* Yes, that totally did it!






Alto & Sheryl forcing a glass jar open tightly capped. Don't you just hate these things?

Her kimono, makes his pants feel tight. Haha. 8D

Oh well, honest, i just hate the un-resolved love triangles {though, i never really saw a triangle but whatever, let us leave that here} but well, we can manage. |D
When is the release date for the movie btw?

[forgottendiary]

Originally Posted by incorrupts

Her kimono, makes his pants feel tight. Haha. 8D

Oh well, honest, i just hate the un-resolved love triangles {though, i never really saw a triangle but whatever, let us leave that here} but well, we can manage. |D
When is the release date for the movie btw?

by a few sizes tight!

no exact date yet though ;_;

[Mei19]

Originally Posted by Yot-chan

I translated this interview with Hiroyuki Yoshino over the weekend and posted it on MacrossWorld. It's from the Macross F Official Fan Book, p. 92. It's only the first part of the interview...in the rest he talks about Klan in the movie, and the love triangle nobody noticed (Mishima/Grace/Birla). Anyway, enjoy!

Hiroyuki Yoshino was Frontier's series organizer and its scriptwriter.

Spoiler:

- I've heard about it in many places already, but since a lot of people are talking about it, let's start witht the love triangle. The love of Alto, Ranka, and Sheryl...why didn't you conclude it?

Yoshino: Whether or not to conclude it was quite a last-minute decision, actually. Like, looking at the final scene, inside everyone...we never explicitly stated it, but..."which will win, who will stick together?" It shouldn't become that kind of attitude. "It might not have to be like that," was the feeling I got.
Every member of the staff spoke out about it, but for a quiet and unsociable person like Alto to act naturally, he should love the sky more than girls, right? So, you can't force a decision, you have to let the other people choose their own path.
"Won't the fans be angry about it?"
"Yeah. But, well, that's okay. I'm prepared for that."
That was the kind of conversations I had. Afterwards, when everyone had given different feedback, I think Kawamori-san got a little upset. At least, he looked worried about it.
However, when we went to see the Budokan Concert, and saw Sheryl and Ranka sharing the same stage, I said to Kawamori-san, "Not having a conclusion was good, wasn't it?" "Yes, it was. Looking at it now, and looking at the stage, it seems like it would feel kind of strange if we had had one.*" (Laughs)

- But wait. Of course saying that Alto loves the sky is fine up to a point, but in episode 22, he and Sheryl end up staying together all night... Recently, I've been talking with the voice actors, and there's been some talk about that. I heard there was a great uproar that was very funny.

Yoshino: (laughs). Certainly, whatever happened between those two created a lot of anxiety. I won't talk about any of this, it's better to leave it to the imagination...
During the voice recording for the original image and storyboard image (Note: the final animation hadn't yet been completed), we ended up creating a somewhat indecent version for the rough cut with "Oh..." sighs from the voice actors and even from the staff in the booth on this side.
But no. I wonder what what really did happen that night? Only Alto and Sheryl know the truth.

- Won't this "Indecent Cut" be resurrected on the BD and DVD!?

Yoshino: Hmmm, what should we do with it? Rather than look forward to it in the TV version, what about the movie...? We're considering how to get it out there. We could also use it for publicity (laughs).

- And one more thing about this: Alto's strange advance continues. In Episode 23, he says "Ranka is the reason I joined S.M.S." In 24, he says "I'll return to you" to Sheryl... And at the end, it's "Both of you are my wings"!

Yoshino: I think Alto doesn't have much self-awareness. Unreflective and a little obnoxious (laughs). Just speaking personally, in episode 24 when he leaves Sheryl, in that conversation the two of them have before he goes off to battle, I think his real feelings, which he didn't even understand himself, spilled out.
But of course, thank goodness that doesn't settle it! Fans of both girls try to support them, saying things about the ending like "He was heading towards Ranka!" and "No! Sheryl won!" and it's best that people see it however they want to see it. There are as many different endings as there are people who watch the show, and the feeling is that no one is insisting they stay quiet about it.

*Thankfully, Renato (at Macrossworld) finally clarified this. Since the Budokan show happened a week or so after the end of Frontier, it would have felt strange looking at the stage and seeing one girl as a winner and the other as a loser.

Thanks. Yot-chan lemme ask since there's some talk about this at Macrossworld. Ohnogi was never involved in the later productions wasn't he?We've all been punk'd here haven't we? lmao Come to think of it, Ohnogi was never in the end credits just Yoshino and this article being referenced from the official magazine looks more credible to me than the unsourced mysterious radio show of Bobby and Ohnogi. No offense.

That would be too hilarious if affirmed, all those hype around Ohnogi for nothing. XD I'm sure you do but do you have scans of this same interview. I just don't want to be punk'd twice ya see.

[BetoJR]

"Unsourced mysterious radio show", eh? I thought the Radio Frontier was quite popular, even after the show ended, but I guess I would be wrong in thinking that way.

About the interview itself: I hope we do get something out of that statement about the "getting it done" part. It's just too funny not to see it, after such a big bait.