2011-11-21, 18:20 | Link #14822 | |
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I thought it was at the beginning there were saints and gemstones, and magicians copied the saints way to get power and then centuries later science found a way to create espers to do what gemstones do. Or did I understand that wrong? |
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2011-11-21, 18:39 | Link #14823 |
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The idea of Saints is less than 2000 years old; magic is most likely an older concept than that.
And a gemstone is an Esper. Someone with a special power that comes from themselves Magic is a different thing entirely - someone who calls on anothers powers, or otherwise invokes abilities. Gemstone is not some middle ground. More like it is a template for AC Espers and a goal to be overcome for Magicains. I'm sure there is some trick to Gunha's powers; some common unifying ability that explains his weird skill-set. We just don't know what it is.
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2011-11-21, 18:50 | Link #14824 |
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Espers are people who get powers from the inside while Magicians are people wjo get skills through external means like books. Am I gettimg this right?
So Ironically: Espers - Natural powers from within. Magicians - Learned powers from external sources. Seems kind of opposite since Science usually equates more to learning while Magic usually leans more on "being born with powers". They seem to be the opposite in the Raildex verse.
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2011-11-21, 19:17 | Link #14826 |
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Do note however magic is first used to "let people without talent do things people with talent can do" (or something like that from the First Volume). Talent, not esper or gemstone specifically. Saints or ability-users probably didn't matter, just that there was inequality and magic was one way in a attempt to bring everything back to a even field.
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2011-11-21, 19:27 | Link #14827 | |||
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Mind you, I said that Gemstones shouldn't be grouped together with artificial Espers because in a similar way to magic, the Academy City's 'curriculum' was also made to give 'those without talent' an ability... I bet Gemstones aren't compatible with that 'curriculum'. But yeah, perhaps saying Gemstones are in the middle was stretching it a bit too much, since conceptually they should be a lot more similar to AC Espers, like Ashaman just pointed. We still need a lot more info on them though. I think it's mentioned somewhere that Gemstones have AIM, but are they also bound to a single ability? or can they have multiple? that single matter can make a huge difference... But so far we have only seen a single Gemstone in action and his ability is literally incomprehensible XD. About the Saints... I don't remember any explanation concerning where do they fit in the big picture... That could be an interesting topic for speculation (in the speculation thread, that is.) |
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2011-11-21, 19:38 | Link #14828 | |
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Not much, but apparently we have a Telekinesis user that's a gemstone...? |
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2011-11-21, 20:19 | Link #14834 |
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[People with Talent] are people born with special abilities, this could include a wide variety of individuals not limited to Saints, or even the Valkyries and Elves.
[Gemstone] however, is a labeling from Science side for those with powers that occurred naturally and sometimes without scientific logic. I'm not suprised if at some point those two terminology are in fact referring to the same thing.
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2011-11-22, 04:09 | Link #14840 |
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Himegami's ability is known as "Deep Blood". Due to this, her blood is irresistible for vampires but it kills any vampire who drinks it.
In addition, with her Deep Blood she can pinpoint the blood flow of any person with perfect accuracy. This makes her a valuable Esper Medic for the Kamijou faction. The Magic Medics of the Kamijou Faction are the Amakusas, most notably Itsuwa. |
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