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Eliminator · 2010-05-16, 14:41

To get back on 'topic',

I wonder why Mikoto became so popular though. Is it because of her 'relationship' with Touma?

tsunade666 · 2010-05-16, 15:37

I don't know too. I myself didn't like much mikoto. Maybe it's about the railgun. Her own spin off story though that was the result of her being popular. Popular enough to have her own spin off.

Maybe she's cute when dealing with touma but to me that's just an ordinary tsundere.... I can't find much her charm really charming at all. I prefer the other girls more than her.

Eliminator · 2010-05-16, 16:18

Either way, she still is the most popular character in the To Aru series (besides Touma or Index), especially since more than 50% of all known To Aru series doujinshi are about Mikoto, and half/a good portion of them are about Mikoto/Touma or some threesome involving Mikoto and Touma.

To me, the reason why I think she's popular is mainly because of her portrayal in the anime and in the manga, with her tsundereness and that many people found her interactions with Touma to be hilarious for some reason. As for the other female characters, it wasn't because they were unattractive, it was probably because most people these days seem to be interested in tsundere characters as opposed to characters of other archetypes.

tsunade666 · 2010-05-16, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Eliminator

To me, the reason why I think she's popular is mainly because of her portrayal in the anime and in the manga, with her tsundereness and that many people found her interactions with Touma to be hilarious for some reason. As for the other female characters, it wasn't because they were unattractive, it was probably because most people these days seem to be interested in tsundere characters as opposed to characters of other archetypes.

I agree to this part. The tsundere chara are really entertaining to watch. Though she is not popular thanks to the anime and manga. She is popular before that. Her popularity boost on vol 3 of the novel and then they decide a side story for her.

Though I could admit she is cute. I just find her to common now a days. I prefer the shy type itsuwa or the daring type lessa than a tsundere type mikoto.

EDIT: if someone ask if lessa is part of the harem, the answer is NO.

EDIT: AGAIN!!! if everyone likes Mikoto for being tsundere then I realized why I don't like her much. I like her tsundere attitude but her level their yet. I like more nanase from bungaku shoujo. she is the real deal tsundere for me

Shadow5YA · 2010-05-16, 19:00

If Mikoto is popular because she's a tsundere, then it doesn't explain why she's more popular than Index, who is even more tsundere towards Touma.

Personally, I think Mikoto is just one of the deeper female protagonists in the Indexverse. Her character is just more dynamic than Index's, Kanzaki Kaori doesn't get enough spotlight in the story.

Think about it: what was her character like at the beginning of the series? She was arrogantly proud and concerned about her image. She took pride in the fact that she never lost a fight (until Touma), and she never worked together with others.

Look how much of that has changed. The Accelerator arc made her swallow her pride and ask for help from others, and she learned some humility in the process.

Sixth · 2010-05-16, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Eliminator

To get back on 'topic',

I wonder why Mikoto became so popular though. Is it because of her 'relationship' with Touma?

Because she is tsundara and freaking strong.

She probably more useful than 80% of the female cast combined.

Eliminator · 2010-05-16, 19:57

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Originally Posted by noobita

She probably more useful than 80% of the female cast combined.

You talking about the light novels or the anime/manga?

Miraluka · 2010-05-16, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Eliminator

You talking about the light novels or the anime/manga?

The cast of railgun manga.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-05-17, 00:38

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Originally Posted by noobita

she probably more useful than 80% of the female cast combined.

hmm, that's debatable. Aside from her own arc, she hasn't been involved with much crisis...

tsunade666 · 2010-05-17, 00:59

maybe he meant for the railgun cast because if its for the index cast.... well she's useful.... for zapping the brains out of touma. Why would they even send a kid against the mages that kills people.

And maybe because index are rarely seen on the stage and when mikoto does appear on the spot light. Everyone just misses her short but fun appearance. That's why, maybe she got her own spin off because of that too.

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-05-17, 01:16

well that's not fair considering mikoto is the lead main character in railgun, of course she'll have more screentime. Interestingly, Mikoto's main role in index is not as a fighter, but a provider of information for touma, similar to index herself.

tsunade666 · 2010-05-17, 01:52

Well biribiri did provide some help other than information for touma in the later volumes but still she's not the one who's fighting the ubber killer mage. Well she's more like a side character like index.

Eliminator · 2010-05-17, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

well that's not fair considering mikoto is the lead main character in railgun, of course she'll have more screentime. Interestingly, Mikoto's main role in index is not as a fighter, but a provider of information for touma, similar to index herself.

If she were a fighter, she'd be obliterated instantly by the other fighters. Considering that she is trying to save Touma, I think she's the one who would end up being saved/badly injured in volume 21. Whenever she does something by herself, she screws up in the process. So I'm not surprised.

So she's going to end up shitting bricks in volume 21, since she is way far behind in the storyline, imo. (especially with Accelerator and Touma)

tsunade666 · 2010-05-17, 08:35

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Originally Posted by Eliminator

If she were a fighter, she'd be obliterated instantly by the other fighters. Considering that she is trying to save Touma, I think she's the one who would end up being saved/badly injured in volume 21. Whenever she does something by herself, she screws up in the process. So I'm not surprised.

So she's going to end up shitting bricks in volume 21, since she is way far behind in the storyline, imo. (especially with Accelerator and Touma)

She's not really weak. Remebmer she's still level 5 but despite that it's just that the current power struggle are just too strong. And touma's current enemy is demi god level.

Mikoto could help beating up russian army and mechanoids. She could probably handle a normal magicians. But the ubber class or rather those we could called on cheat modes. She's just a little ant infront of them.

Eliminator · 2010-05-17, 08:49

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

She's not really weak. Remebmer she's still level 5 but despite that it's just that the current power struggle are just too strong. And touma's current enemy is demi god level.

Mikoto could help beating up russian army and mechanoids. She could probably handle a normal magicians. But the ubber class or rather those we could called on cheat modes. She's just a little ant infront of them.

Guess so. Either way, I still think that there's going to be drama for Mikoto at least in volume 21. Who knows that the author would do.

giorno · 2010-05-17, 10:02

well, let's take a look at touma's main antagonists:
vol 1: Styl, Kaori, Johan Penn Index
vol 2: Aureolous Izzard
vol 3: Accelerator
vol 4: Misha(Gabriel)
vol 5: Unabara Mitsuki, Yamisaka Ouma
vol 6: Sherry
vol 7: Roman Catholic Army, (briefly)Amakusa
vol 8: Awaki
vol 9-10: Oriana
vol 11: Roman Catholic Fleet
vol 13: Vento of the Front, FUZE = Kazakiri
vol 14: Terra of the Left
vol 16: Acqua of the Back
vol 17-18: Carissa+Knights of England
vol 20+: Fiamma

Mikoto could have been useful in volumes 5(she was, in fact), 6(again), 7, 8(again)

otherwise she could have been useful only to battle minor enemies(like the hound dogs in volume 13)

basically, Mikoto would be a good help for Touma, about as much as the Amakusa, for support and fighting minor enemies with large numbers, but that's about it. (And the Amakusa are a much better help against magicians anyways, especially saints)

She still would be more of a liability than anything against most of the main enemies Touma fought....

tsunade666 · 2010-05-17, 11:03

she would be more likely a heavy load for touma. Touma would just tried to defend against the attackers that will attack her. And in the last volume she did tried to go too russia but what would she do their.....

the ubber class are their for example and most dangerous is by rank
Fianmma
Aurreleous
aqua
the princess of england
princess of france
the magicians that rival the saints

but she could deal with elite corps of russia.... well they only use guns but still they are strong and dealing against a kid wouldn't be a problem but heck she is a LEVEL 5!!!!

Chaos2Frozen · 2010-05-17, 17:41

a couple of corrections, touma never fought misha, he fought tsuchimikado. He also never fought awaki directly. And he was 'protecting' fuse=kazakiri. The truth is, short of god's right seat, angels, accelerator and alchemist, mikoto would have been incredibly helpful in any other fight, the only reason why she wasn't involve is because of the political implications for espers to fight magicians. Remember, instead of asking what she can do to block magic, ask what can they do against her lightning.

Eliminator · 2010-05-17, 18:29

In a way, Mikoto can aid Touma with her lightning. Who knows what others may do against her attacks. The question is how is it useful.

I think her against any sizeable force like soldiers would be no problem. She'd just fry them all to death like the electric goddess she is, it's not like they're overtly powerful like Fiamma or Kanzaki.

So how is the author going to determine Mikoto's role in the next novel?

giorno · 2010-05-17, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

a couple of corrections, touma never fought misha, he fought tsuchimikado. He also never fought awaki directly. And he was 'protecting' fuse=kazakiri.

of course, i was just listing all the "main antagonists", as in, all the powerful main characters of each novel who weren't on Touma's side

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The truth is, short of god's right seat, angels, accelerator and alchemist, mikoto would have been incredibly helpful in any other fight, the only reason why she wasn't involve is because of the political implications for espers to fight magicians.

also except for the battles against Carissa in volume 17 and 18

besides that, yes, i definitely agree. Mikoto definitely would have been very useful in just about every novel for support, and in most novels to help fight against the weaker enemies, and in some novels, against the novel's main enemy as well.

Exactly the same as the amakusa.

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Remember, instead of asking what she can do to block magic, ask what can they do against her lightning.

well, there are anti-fire spells, so there are probably anti-lightning spells too...and someone like Tatemiya can activate an anti-flame spell almost instantly...granted, Tatemiya doesn't seem to be exactly an average magician, but still, most of the magician's with a name are on a similar level or higher...

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Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	well that's not fair considering mikoto is the lead main character in railgun, of course she'll have more screentime. Interestingly, Mikoto's main role in index is not as a fighter, but a provider of information for touma, similar to index herself. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

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Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	a couple of corrections, touma never fought misha, he fought tsuchimikado. He also never fought awaki directly. And he was 'protecting' fuse=kazakiri. The truth is, short of god's right seat, angels, accelerator and alchemist, mikoto would have been incredibly helpful in any other fight, the only reason why she wasn't involve is because of the political implications for espers to fight magicians. Remember, instead of asking what she can do to block magic, ask what can they do against her lightning. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

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Eliminator Member Join Date: May 2010	To get back on 'topic', I wonder why Mikoto became so popular though. Is it because of her 'relationship' with Touma?

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I don't know too. I myself didn't like much mikoto. Maybe it's about the railgun. Her own spin off story though that was the result of her being popular. Popular enough to have her own spin off. Maybe she's cute when dealing with touma but to me that's just an ordinary tsundere.... I can't find much her charm really charming at all. I prefer the other girls more than her.

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Eliminator Member Join Date: May 2010	Either way, she still is the most popular character in the To Aru series (besides Touma or Index), especially since more than 50% of all known To Aru series doujinshi are about Mikoto, and half/a good portion of them are about Mikoto/Touma or some threesome involving Mikoto and Touma. To me, the reason why I think she's popular is mainly because of her portrayal in the anime and in the manga, with her tsundereness and that many people found her interactions with Touma to be hilarious for some reason. As for the other female characters, it wasn't because they were unattractive, it was probably because most people these days seem to be interested in tsundere characters as opposed to characters of other archetypes.

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	If Mikoto is popular because she's a tsundere, then it doesn't explain why she's more popular than Index, who is even more tsundere towards Touma. Personally, I think Mikoto is just one of the deeper female protagonists in the Indexverse. Her character is just more dynamic than Index's, Kanzaki Kaori doesn't get enough spotlight in the story. Think about it: what was her character like at the beginning of the series? She was arrogantly proud and concerned about her image. She took pride in the fact that she never lost a fight (until Touma), and she never worked together with others. Look how much of that has changed. The Accelerator arc made her swallow her pride and ask for help from others, and she learned some humility in the process.

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	maybe he meant for the railgun cast because if its for the index cast.... well she's useful.... for zapping the brains out of touma. Why would they even send a kid against the mages that kills people. And maybe because index are rarely seen on the stage and when mikoto does appear on the spot light. Everyone just misses her short but fun appearance. That's why, maybe she got her own spin off because of that too.

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	Well biribiri did provide some help other than information for touma in the later volumes but still she's not the one who's fighting the ubber killer mage. Well she's more like a side character like index.

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giorno Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	well, let's take a look at touma's main antagonists: vol 1: Styl, Kaori, Johan Penn Index vol 2: Aureolous Izzard vol 3: Accelerator vol 4: Misha(Gabriel) vol 5: Unabara Mitsuki, Yamisaka Ouma vol 6: Sherry vol 7: Roman Catholic Army, (briefly)Amakusa vol 8: Awaki vol 9-10: Oriana vol 11: Roman Catholic Fleet vol 13: Vento of the Front, FUZE = Kazakiri vol 14: Terra of the Left vol 16: Acqua of the Back vol 17-18: Carissa+Knights of England vol 20+: Fiamma Mikoto could have been useful in volumes 5(she was, in fact), 6(again), 7, 8(again) otherwise she could have been useful only to battle minor enemies(like the hound dogs in volume 13) basically, Mikoto would be a good help for Touma, about as much as the Amakusa, for support and fighting minor enemies with large numbers, but that's about it. (And the Amakusa are a much better help against magicians anyways, especially saints) She still would be more of a liability than anything against most of the main enemies Touma fought....

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tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	she would be more likely a heavy load for touma. Touma would just tried to defend against the attackers that will attack her. And in the last volume she did tried to go too russia but what would she do their..... the ubber class are their for example and most dangerous is by rank Fianmma Aurreleous aqua the princess of england princess of france the magicians that rival the saints but she could deal with elite corps of russia.... well they only use guns but still they are strong and dealing against a kid wouldn't be a problem but heck she is a LEVEL 5!!!!

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Eliminator Member Join Date: May 2010	In a way, Mikoto can aid Touma with her lightning. Who knows what others may do against her attacks. The question is how is it useful. I think her against any sizeable force like soldiers would be no problem. She'd just fry them all to death like the electric goddess she is, it's not like they're overtly powerful like Fiamma or Kanzaki. So how is the author going to determine Mikoto's role in the next novel?