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Myssa Rei · 2012-10-01, 13:00

The phrase for Chapter 14 has to be "Kemonomimi Meido", though technically that isn't accurate either, as one of the maids is human, while the other one is... a Medusa. Don't see that everyday, given how, you know, normally they turn people into stone.

walt · 2012-10-02, 03:05

head of maids is Emproy's adept?

Insane · 2012-10-02, 07:05

Hahaha! That blonde violent woman tries to seduce Itami but get facepalmed instead after seeing him get surrounded by people in party! So hilarious!

walt · 2012-10-02, 23:18

"Mamina is a Warrior-bunny"
oh LOL!

Prongs · 2012-10-04, 02:14

after read this manga and read some of Novel translation. It was clearly that our modern tech is overpowered them by large margin. Here you'll know why

Spoiler for Lelei Magic Assesment:

Even Ancient Fire dragon is fairly weak. Against our panzerfaust.

Rori Mercury with her big axe maybe posses some serious threat. But against this

I don't think so. The real threat for JSDF itself came from the big nation that have interest about the gate.

maybe this can start real Conflict over gate control

but before JSDF found anything useful. All big power across the earth will laid in waiting. Due the excessive amount of Invesment if they try to force their way towards the gate.

Awrya · 2012-10-04, 08:35

Just wondering, how far in the novel are we?
From the Vol.2 cover it looks like we're still in Vol.1, does each manga chapter cover the same amount of material as a LN chapter?

Xacual · 2012-10-04, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Awrya

Just wondering, how far in the novel are we?
From the Vol.2 cover it looks like we're still in Vol.1, does each manga chapter cover the same amount of material as a LN chapter?

All I know is someone earlier estimated that at the current rate we'd finish volume 1's content around chapter 24 I think it was. Also again, this isn't a LN series.

Seitsuki · 2012-10-04, 14:31

Shame about that.

*looks at page count*

Well shit.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-10-04, 14:49

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Originally Posted by Prongs

Rori Mercury with her big axe maybe posses some serious threat. But against this

i agree with most of what you said but i think the Apostate are not going to be stop by mere bullets. Rori is 900+ yrs old, i am pretty sure she dealt with projectile and explosive weapons before.

Insane · 2012-10-04, 17:47

Hmm? I think most of apostles are a bunch of immortals. Even if they got killed, they can just resurrect themselves later?

KQB · 2012-10-05, 04:24

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Rori Mercury with her big axe maybe posses some serious threat. But against this

I don't think so.

Is that an L115? The Lapua round is nice, but it's only good for distance, not stopping power.

If you want an apostle stopper:

Now that's a rifle.

Though since she's Immortal (as in can't die, even if she loses her head) you might be better off with hitting her with a B83 nuclear bomb.

But when it comes to dragons?

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The real threat for JSDF itself came from the big nation that have interest about the gate.

maybe this can start real Conflict over gate control

but before JSDF found anything useful. All big power across the earth will laid in waiting. Due the excessive amount of Invesment if they try to force their way towards the gate.

Maybe, maybe not. The US/Japan Military Defense Pact allows American forces stationed in Japan to defend Japan, which is the reason they are stationed there in the first place.

Think about what this means. Since the Japanese government can't order the US military around, the Americans will unilaterally act in the defense of Japan.

Oh and the pact makes Japan financially responsible for any costs incurred by the troops, so money won't be an issue.

So in "reality," American gunships and troops would've razed those Imperium troops a day or two later, instead of the Diet taking six days declare an emergency and muster the troops.

Then, of course, it would be the Americans in Alcanus, and it gets much worse for the empire.

Ya'know, if the Americans get involved, I can see a Hollywood angle here...

walt · 2012-10-05, 08:13

major treasures of new world is the gate, and source of magic

Insane · 2012-10-05, 08:22

Probably the author will make it in Hagure Yuusha's style. People from human world learn magic from fantasy world and alternatively, people from fantasy world learn science from human world.

Wandering_Youth · 2012-10-06, 02:41

I'm starting to wonder if any of the inhabitants of the other world have any real powerful magics. What little we have seem of magic is weak utility oriented spells.
As of this point, the only really value this other world holds is land and natural resources.

Roger Rambo · 2012-10-06, 07:07

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Originally Posted by KQB

If you want an apostle stopper:

Now that's a rifle.

Though since she's Immortal (as in can't die, even if she loses her head) you might be better off with hitting her with a B83 nuclear bomb.

I'd argue that a 25mm anti material weapon is a bit too much of underkill (at least as far as being able to hit an Apostle), while a nuke is obviously ludicrous overkill.

Just drop a 2000 pound laser guided bomb on her.

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Okashira · 2012-10-06, 14:46

Gate 14 is out in most manga readers.

Major misunderstandings are still all over the place.

Roger Rambo · 2012-10-06, 15:36

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Originally Posted by Okashira

Gate 14 is out in most manga readers.

Major misunderstandings are still all over the place.

Well not too many. She's somewhat projecting the Empires own level of ruthlessness onto the Japanese government(looking for an excuse to launch and attack), as well as its hierarchical structure (where there almost never would be a circumstance that would call for a regular NCO equivalent to testify to the Senate). Though she's taking a pretty reasonable course of action in tagging along with Itami as a means to get into contact with the Japanese government.

Though I suspect she's going to find herself subject to allot of international intrigue once other nations find out that she's come through the gate.

So what was the exact reason the Drill head reacted to Itami being surrounded by the maids/his subordinates was to slap and claw at his face?

Okashira · 2012-10-06, 15:43

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

So what was the exact reason the Drill head reacted to Itami being surrounded by the maids/his subordinates was to slap and claw at his face?

Maybe she thought that she would have too comply her orders while everyone else was looking and partying around them?

Or perhaps she thought that Itami was simply playing around with the maids (in that sense) and didn't gave any thought deep to anything (while she was terribly bothered by it).

In any event, is easy to see that she was bothered with "having to comfort" a guy she stepped on (and thus, she values as less than her). As she was in the edge, she just needed a little something to explode and vent her frustration.

Then again, it's probably hard to tell without having in hand that little bit extra piece of her mind that is probably found in the novel.

Xacual · 2012-10-06, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

So what was the exact reason the Drill head reacted to Itami being surrounded by the maids/his subordinates was to slap and claw at his face?

I think Okashira has part of it right, she just spent some time working herself up to comfort a man that previously she had thought was an enemy and had mistreated. She probably expected Itami to be you know in pain or discomfort or something and instead she found him partying with the maids and his squad. She probably snapped and did it before she even was aware of it.

Awrya · 2012-10-06, 18:01

Was it really necessary for Tuka to use magic? The imperial soldiers looked like they were asleep anyway

Just asking, the uniform the late master was wearing in the flashback, is that a Zeon uniform?

Is that a bag of n&n's lying on the table? Is it part of the provisions for the JSDF as well?

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Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	The phrase for Chapter 14 has to be "Kemonomimi Meido", though technically that isn't accurate either, as one of the maids is human, while the other one is... a Medusa. Don't see that everyday, given how, you know, normally they turn people into stone. __________________

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Prongs Grand Duke of Lolitania Join Date: Aug 2007	after read this manga and read some of Novel translation. It was clearly that our modern tech is overpowered them by large margin. Here you'll know why Spoiler for Lelei Magic Assesment: "It is truly an outstanding performance and I am short of words to describe it, Lelei. Now, tell me more about the 'truth'." Lelei bowed politely, and started presenting the "truth" as if she was in an academic conference. It is often said that we, the Lindon School of wizards, will be feared and rejected by the public if we openly use magic in wars. However the reality is not that one-sided. The whole concept behind using magic in wars is to intervene natural phenomenons - a manifestation of the "Surface Truth" - in such a way usable in fights. "Just like this." Upon hovering the stones that she had just picked up, Lelei shot them into the withering trees around her. As you have seen, the "Counter Truth" has just intervened the "Surface Truth" of the stone pellets being still. However, similar effects can also be achieved by arrows or catapults. Therefore, our objective is to bring in practicality to overcome such a reality. This time, Lelei simultaneously floated over ten stones around a specific target. The stones shot into the target from every direction. What was left was a bark lying on the ground with thousands of holes. A trick like this can never be achieved with a single arrow or a single catapult. This is the reason behind the public's fear towards war magic. However, even if the typical audience is satisfied, how about jugglers who know alternate tricks? Fire magic is nothing more than the burning of objects. Why not simply use oil or firewood? Even for water magic, at the end of the day it is not much different from pouring water on an object. All of these can be recreated by machines and tools. However, the effect of "Counter Truth" lasts for a short period, and is incomparable with the strength of massive machineries. Such a problem is insignificant in the small-scale military conflicts in the past. However recently the scale of wars increases dramatically, while at the same time wizards are becoming more and more obsolete. Of course there is no point to waste such talents. That is why they are currently used for medical and indirect support - areas that are essential nowadays. Nevertheless, being a major school in magic fights ever since ancient years, the Lindon School can never be satisfied at the current situation. Just as how our current status is built up on our forefathers effort, we have to continue to move forward by advancing our researches. But, facing the strong weapons of the JSDF such as "guns" and "cannons", it may also be true that by paying the same degree of effort we may still be unable to cope with the tide of times. As long as we stick with using "Counter Truth" merely as a means of directly interfering the "Surface Truth," this is a problem we have to face sooner or later. The reason is that the most effective way to bring about any change within the "Surface Truth" is to work within the framework of "Surface Truth". Given enough time we will always be caught up, and eventually overtaken, by technological advances. However, researches in regard of the "Surface Truth" are much deeper and more extensive at the other side of the Gate. Is it possible that we can achieve a better result by using magic to complement, instead of directly interfering of the "Surface Truth"? This is Lelei's focus. For example, at the other side of the Gate, there are researches in regard of "flames". The wise men said, burning is a result of the combination of the "burning essence" and the "object essence." The wise men also said, explosion is a result of such burning within a short time frame. However the reason for the bottleneck of our research is that we have been mistaking the breaking of utensils upon heating as detonation. "Lelei shall hereby present an authentic detonation." Upon saying that, Lelei created an orb of light in the air. "Across the Gate, the Object Essence is called Oxygen. The Burning Essence is equivalent to their Carbon, Water and a number of other materials. Oxygen is prevalent in the air. What Lelei is going to do is to draw and accumulate the Burning Essence, lock it in a force field with a suitable density, float it in the air, and release it by the use of Counter Truth." Lelei bent a finger, and the orb busted. "A material called Explosives across the Gate is equivalent to this orb." The Old Sage nodded in response. "Um... It fits the 'truth' and can expand the scope of magic usage. Although you are clearly inspired by the researches in the other world, your achievement of fitting their theories into ours with practical results makes you deserve a doctorate degree." "If the phenomenon of explosion can be controlled effectively, the value of magic will further increase. Not only for the military, but also for industrial and construction work, this will be very useful," Katou the Old Sage added and was about to end the assessment. "But, there is not enough power." Lelei looked at Katou's direction. A JSDF officer was standing there. "Sorry. What I'm going to say will be a bit complicated. Would you mind interpreting for me?" Lelei gave a small sigh, made a bow towards her teacher, and walked towards the officer. Even Ancient Fire dragon is fairly weak. Against our panzerfaust. Rori Mercury with her big axe maybe posses some serious threat. But against this I don't think so. The real threat for JSDF itself came from the big nation that have interest about the gate. maybe this can start real Conflict over gate control but before JSDF found anything useful. All big power across the earth will laid in waiting. Due the excessive amount of Invesment if they try to force their way towards the gate. __________________ I am Immortal I Have the Sacred Blood of Youma I was No Rival, No Claymore can be my Equal

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Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	Just wondering, how far in the novel are we? From the Vol.2 cover it looks like we're still in Vol.1, does each manga chapter cover the same amount of material as a LN chapter? __________________

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Seitsuki Onee! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Auckland, NZ	Shame about that. looks at page count Well shit. __________________ thanks to Patchy ♥

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Wandering_Youth lost in wonder forever... Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: edge of my dream in the land of twilight...ZzzZzZ	I'm starting to wonder if any of the inhabitants of the other world have any real powerful magics. What little we have seem of magic is weak utility oriented spells. As of this point, the only really value this other world holds is land and natural resources. __________________

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walt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	head of maids is Emproy's adept?

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Insane Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Cairo, Egypt Age: 28	Hahaha! That blonde violent woman tries to seduce Itami but get facepalmed instead after seeing him get surrounded by people in party! So hilarious!

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walt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	"Mamina is a Warrior-bunny" oh LOL!

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Insane Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Cairo, Egypt Age: 28	Hmm? I think most of apostles are a bunch of immortals. Even if they got killed, they can just resurrect themselves later?

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walt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	major treasures of new world is the gate, and source of magic

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Insane Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Cairo, Egypt Age: 28	Probably the author will make it in Hagure Yuusha's style. People from human world learn magic from fantasy world and alternatively, people from fantasy world learn science from human world.

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Okashira どうだろうね。ふふ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Chile	Gate 14 is out in most manga readers. Major misunderstandings are still all over the place. __________________ Now sponsoring : video game analogies (ES) Last update : Chapter 25 as of 31/08/12 Last edited by Okashira; 2012-10-06 at 15:08.

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Awrya U mad? Join Date: Apr 2012	Was it really necessary for Tuka to use magic? The imperial soldiers looked like they were asleep anyway Just asking, the uniform the late master was wearing in the flashback, is that a Zeon uniform? Is that a bag of n&n's lying on the table? Is it part of the provisions for the JSDF as well? __________________