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Yes, I'm enjoying it. Americans have the belief that they live in the free-est (grammar nazis, please correct me on this word) and most tolerant country in the world, and I love watching false beliefs collapse.
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2010-08-18, 07:58 | Link #8642 | |
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Hey, what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms should be off limits here.
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2010-08-18, 08:30 | Link #8643 | ||
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Believing in the right to practice a religion (or even be part of a religion) is not a religious belief, it is simply a fundamental right of the American Constitution... |
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2010-08-18, 10:35 | Link #8645 | |
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And where is your proof that the majority who oppose the mosque being built are Christian? Or racist? Or even Tea-Partiers? Obviously from you calling them Tea-Baggers, we know where you stand. Quite the opposite of my positions. |
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2010-08-18, 11:10 | Link #8646 |
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I don't understand why the Tea Party is being implicated in this. From what I've learned, the Tea Party is just an attempt to revive Goldwater style conservatism. It is being implicated as racist because Rand Paul said he was against the Civil Rights Act but that wasn't for racist reasons, rather how powerful he believes the federal gov. should be (weak). I support most of the ideals of the Tea Party and I support them building the Islam community center as well.
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2010-08-18, 11:59 | Link #8648 |
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The extremists that say the USA is against Islam must be salivating over this issue.
I hope the opponents, especially people like Newt Gingrich, tone it down a bit and all parties are able to come up with a reasonable solution. I still think if it is forced to move, it'll set a very bad precedent for future projects. |
2010-08-18, 12:09 | Link #8649 | |
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Edit: That's probably not worded very well...
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2010-08-18, 12:11 | Link #8650 | ||
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...st-letter.html Obviously, the worst of the group don't represent the majority, but seeing as parts of the media seem to like linking the Tea Party to news like that, it can't be helped that the Tea Party gains that reputation. Edit: Quote:
Anyway, most of the people acknowledge the legal right, so it's probably that many of them just disapprove. I doubt all of the people who disagree with the idea protest. Chances are, the reason some people disagree with the idea is because they feel it's a sensitive issue and that conflict should be avoided, instead of having any strong feelings for or against it. Edit again: The article justinstrife linked mentioned that President Obama showed his support for the project. Why would he do that? It's an issue that has more to do with the state/region than the country, and you'd think that he'd learn the hazards of speaking out too much. Last edited by OceanBlue; 2010-08-18 at 12:24. |
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2010-08-18, 12:27 | Link #8652 | |
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32% are not christian Unless those numbers are wrong, it is mathematically impossible for christians to be less than 50% of those opposed to it's construction. Once again, that's assuming nearly 100% of non-christians are opposed to it, which considering that 32% of new yorkers being non-christian includes muslims, and Jewish, buddhist, atheist, non-religious, ect people don't really have much of a reason to be more opposed to than christians are, it's safe to say the percentage of those opposed is more than 50% christian. Now they're from polls, so it's entirely possible to be wrong, which would shoot down my point.
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2010-08-18, 12:41 | Link #8653 | |
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And that's not speculation. Assuming the 64% et 68% numbers are right, mathematics dictate that lower bound. |
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2010-08-18, 12:50 | Link #8654 | ||
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http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/25/a...rs-racist.html It's stuff like this that make people believe the Tea Party is racist. |
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2010-08-18, 13:34 | Link #8656 |
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It's a reactionary popular* movement aimed at perceived rapid changes in a multiethnic society. Of course it has an undertone of ethnic conflict.
*In the sense of the word, "populist." As a history student it is actually immensely interesting in witnessing such a movement in progress. The rhetoric that borrows heavily from accepted national ideologies and myths -- and the implicated question of whose national ideology is being accepted in the first place -- the mobilization of old and new media, the nature of the movement's general demands, the demographics of the members, etc., would no doubt become interesting research material. As a contemporary citizen, however... |
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2010-08-18, 14:52 | Link #8658 | |
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To be honest, I'm not really familiar with the Tea Party, and I didn't realize that he was a spokesman for the Tea Party Express. Just trying to explain why some people feel that the Tea Party is racist. |
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2010-08-18, 16:32 | Link #8659 | ||
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Well it isn't just places of worship that are getting scrutiny in the US, even home shelters are :
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