(CR) Nisemonogatari (TV) - General Discussion & Anticipation (No Novel Spoilers)

[HasuMasu]

Once this starts, I'm outta here.

I only marathon, so I'll see you guys when in 3 months or so.

[omimon]

Premiers today.....(but not really)

When I first saw the giant kanji zero, for a moment I thought "They are actually Zerosakis!!"

[sirn]

Episode 2: Karen Bee Part Two
Script: —
Storyboard: Yase Yuuki (Madoka Magica ep3, 10)
Episode Director: Yase Yuuki
Animation Director: Mogi Takuji, Nozomi Ushijima, Yamamura Hiroki

Episode 3: Karen Bee Part Three
Script: —
Storyboard: Itamura Tomoyuki (Bakemonogatari ep12, Nisemonogatari series director)
Episode Director: Miyamoto Yukihiro (Madoka Magica series director)
Animation Director: Maeda Tatsuyuki, Sugiyama Nobuhiro

Episode 4: Karen Bee Part Four
Script: —
Storyboard: Yase Yuuki
Episode Director: Yanagiya Yoshihiro
Animation Director: Shiotsuki Kazuya, Yoshiaki Itou, Takano Akihisa

Episode 5: Karen Bee Part Five
Script: —
Storyboard: Mori Yasuhiro, Iwasaki Yasutoshi, Kawabata Takashi
Episode Director: Mikamo Yoshito
Animation Director: Abe Tomoyuki

[blakstealth]

PMMM ep3 and 10? oh man lol.

[Hiroi Sekai]

Dare I say...heads will roll?

I don't know if this had been announced and I missed it, but are they going with half Karen episodes and Tsukihi for the other half of the episodes? From the summary list it looks like Bake's mains will just be incorporated into the story instead of having their own episodes this time around.

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by sirn

Episode 2: Karen Bee Part Two
Script: —
Storyboard: Yase Yuuki (Madoka Magica ep3, 10)
Episode Director: Yase Yuuki
Animation Director: Mogi Takuji, Nozomi Ushijima, Yamamura Hiroki

Episode 3: Karen Bee Part Three
Script: —
Storyboard: Itamura Tomoyuki (Bakemonogatari ep12, Nisemonogatari series director)
Episode Director: Miyamoto Yukihiro (Madoka Magica series director)
Animation Director: Maeda Tatsuyuki, Sugiyama Nobuhiro

Episode 4: Karen Bee Part Four
Script: —
Storyboard: Yase Yuuki
Episode Director: Yanagiya Yoshihiro
Animation Director: Shiotsuki Kazuya, Yoshiaki Itou, Takano Akihisa

Episode 5: Karen Bee Part Five
Script: —
Storyboard: Mori Yasuhiro, Iwasaki Yasutoshi, Kawabata Takashi
Episode Director: Mikamo Yoshito
Animation Director: Abe Tomoyuki

lol what? There are too many Animation director per episode. That is basically an indication that they were indeed having schedule problem with this series AGAIN.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by applejuice

lol what? There are too many Animation director per episode. That is basically an indication that they were indeed having schedule problem with this series AGAIN.

Eh? How so? Excuse my ignorance but how is the number of animation directors connected with SHAFT's infamous ability to mess up every schedule they set up

[applejuice]

Originally Posted by Malkuth

Eh? How so? Excuse my ignorance but how is the number of animation directors connected with SHAFT's infamous ability to mess up every schedule they set up

That's not just limited to Shaft. Having a lot of animation director means they basically did not have much time, thus they split up the episode in to pieces and animated it separately. That's something I heard from internet pen-pal who's working on that industry.

In case of Shaft, they are constantly sending almost half or more of amount of works to China, since they don't have time... (...) Studios with the worst scheduling = Shaft, Studio DEEN, Satelight, Seven Arcs

[Chanbara]

Is it not equally possible that it's a translation error, and the people listed are the animation supervisors, where it would be completely possible to have more than one on an episode, especially given that they seem to be different people on every episode?

Edit: Sorry, I reread it, and some of those people were in fact the Assistant Animation Directors on Bakemonogatari so it seems unlikely they are actually supervisors. That said I can never really tell where Shaft have cut corners anyway, ignorance is bliss.

[redgrnbluylw]

Hahaha, just realized something. Tsukihi and Karen together are the "birds and the bees".

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by redgrnbluylw

Hahaha, just realized something. Tsukihi and Karen together are the "birds and the bees".

Heh - that's actually pretty funny. Even though this series is very rooted in Japanese folklore/mythology, I have to wonder if that could have been intended as well.

(I'm not sure if it has to be clarified... but, just in case, for any non-Native speakers, telling a child about "the birds and the bees" is a euphemism for explaining about reproduction/sex. )

[zarqu]

Could someone please tell me about birds and bees? I'm confused.

[zato_1one]

Originally Posted by zarqu

Could someone please tell me about birds and bees? I'm confused.

Wiki can help you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_birds_and_the_bees

[zarqu]

^ I would prefer if you explained it to me. In pictures, please.

[Azuma Denton]

Its premiere today !!!
Really cant wait for the first episode...

Senjougahara~sama...


On another note: Kanbaru really keeps her promise to grows her hair and act more lady like...

[HasuMasu]

Originally Posted by zarqu

^ I would prefer if you explained it to me. In pictures, please.

I would, but the cops would be on my ass in a heartbeat.

[karice67]

Originally Posted by applejuice

That's not just limited to Shaft. Having a lot of animation director means they basically did not have much time, thus they split up the episode in to pieces and animated it separately. That's something I heard from internet pen-pal who's working on that industry.

Originally Posted by Chanbara

Is it not equally possible that it's a translation error, and the people listed are the animation supervisors, where it would be completely possible to have more than one on an episode, especially given that they seem to be different people on every episode?

Actually, more often than not, the 'animation director' is pretty much an 'animation supervisor'.

From someone who's been looking into it for years (and input from Peter Chung):

The literal translation "animation director" can be misleading, because it seems to imply more of a creative say in filmmaking decisions than is actually the case. The movie Jin-Roh more accurately translated the term sakuga kantoku by using a less literal translation: "key animation supervisor".

Further explanation here or on wikipedia.

That said, what applejuice noted is often true: studios will need more animation directors if they need to divvy up the work because they are running out of time (this happened with the 2nd Macross Frontier film). However, there could also be other reasons, e.g. if there is a specialist for character design, another for action etc etc.

[Xenosnake]

Originally Posted by karice67

e.g. if there is a specialist for character design, another for action etc etc.

Can't forget crazy facial expressions.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by applejuice

That's not just limited to Shaft. Having a lot of animation director means they basically did not have much time, thus they split up the episode in to pieces and animated it separately. That's something I heard from internet pen-pal who's working on that industry.

In case of Shaft, they are constantly sending almost half or more of amount of works to China, since they don't have time... (...) Studios with the worst scheduling = Shaft, Studio DEEN, Satelight, Seven Arcs

Interesting... never crossed my mind, despite one of the main that I like in anime is the consistency of their designs, I guess it extends to supervision as well

[omimon]

You might have noticed that CM6 has a "?". Shinobu?