2013-03-22, 11:13 | Link #4121 |
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I feel like this series is going to extend much longer than people realize. I am sure the Elemental Lords sense the Dark Elemental Lord power and his made a contract. In other words they smell a legitimate threat which is Kamito. Although Kamito wasn't consumed by the Dark Elemental Lord, he can use power. In any case, Luminaris and her group have failed to destroy Restia, their country is going to go berserk and will decide any means to get rid of Kamito.
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2013-03-22, 13:05 | Link #4122 |
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Phew... I finally caught up, with another pretty interesting LN.
Anyway, after reading all of the chapters that have been released so far + spoiling myself, about the events that still remain untranslated, there is one thing that I started wondering about. Do you think that Kamito's Dark Elemental Lord power's (demon king mode) is going to grant him some kind of immunity to Est's curse ? After all, I doubt that he will abandon her, after he got back Restia, since it's not in Kamito's style, to do something like that, especially after the events of volume 5, and he will, continue using Est, as one of his "sword's". Since, I doubt that the Elemental Lords would grant Kamito's wish - especially after he has "awakened" - of removing Est's curse, even if team Scarlet wins the current Blade Dance, so, he's probably going to need to find another option, on resolving this matter. |
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2013-03-22, 16:02 | Link #4124 | |
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That aside, the real question is whether or not Kamito is still in Demon Lord mode or not. I was under the impression that Clair woke him up.
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2013-03-22, 16:26 | Link #4127 | |
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He could be a misunderstood badass, you never know. But aside from that, that's a solid list. I personally hope she at least gains some good qualities when/if we learn more about her. But for the reasons mentioned above, I still can't say I like her all that much.
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2013-03-22, 17:46 | Link #4128 | |
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so he will have no trouble to "deceive" her,like he did with other girls,and have her teach claire and rinslet(perhaps finish fiana formation)how to become Queen-they know spirit language,but no high ancient and other more advanced magic knowledge. that leave only poor ellis behind,even more so if leonora join them after the competition. |
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I hoping that Claire will someday stop calling Rubia "Nee -sama", she does deserve being called that by her. And; Quote:
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2013-03-22, 19:18 | Link #4132 |
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I consider Rubia an antagonist, and her methods as plain evil. While her goal in the end may be just, or worthwhile, the means which she will do to achieve her end, make her monsterous.
The simplest is the fact that due to her actions a large country could not use fire for atleast a year. That is pretty serious nightmare fuel for a nation that the tech level is early industrial, victorian era, or earlier. No fires or heat in winter, no way to cook food, most industry would come to a halt. You would end up having a mass of refugee's fleeing the country. Not to mention having no problem starting something that would be the equivelent of a world war, with a shrug, merely saying it cannot be avoided. The end may sometimes justify the means, however some means preclude the end. |
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2013-03-22, 20:26 | Link #4134 | |
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1- She turned her back on the Elemental Lord. Bastard had it coming too. All it takes is a tiny tweak of perception and the entire story could be written around her as the heroine standing up to the tyrannical oppressors of her country. Don't pretend they're anything but. 2- She wasn't exactly trying to. It's not like she went out of her way to walk up to Fianna and give her an extra special dose of mind rape.She just happened to be in the way. Are you going to blame Kamito for 'mentally scarring' Velsaria 3 years ago and ultimately turning her into the wreck she now is? No, because she simply doesn't matter enough? Same shit. 3- She didn't do jack to Claire. Claire was miles away. If you mean she ended getting their parents arrested and Claire socially outcast then don't blame Rubia, blame the government for being such loyal dogs. That's like saying Maximus, Gol.D.Roger, and any number of characters were evil for having their family dragged into shit. Their battles in the Blade Dance were just that: battles. No one hates on Kamito for curbstomping everyone, don't blame Rubia for being just as OP. 4- Who's word do we have for that? The Lords who do shit like burn down cities like a little kid having a tantrum? All because someone forgot to offer up a cake or something? Surely even you can't take this one too seriously. 5- No concrete evidence for this. Even if there was though, so what? It's not like she personally is going around slaughtering people. Heck, Kamito arguable killed far more people than Rubia. But it's not a problem now huh? 6- When? Did she ever?She always lets Fianna go. The one time she came remotely close to physically harming Fianna was when she was clinging on to her arm, and then you have to admit that was also partly Fianna's fault for just not letting go. 7- Sjora Kahn tried that. Rubia hasn't done anything of the sort. 8- What, because humans are having it so well with the Elemental Lords? Their entire society geared around appeasing them so that they don't go on genocidal rampages? Again, flip the perspective around just a little and Rubia becomes a heroine. Trying to free the world from its shackles to corrupt overlords. The idea you need spirits for simple shit like lighting a fire is ridiculous anyway. Strike a flint, get a spark, make a fire. The only reason this logically cannot work is because of the spirits/Elemental Lord making it so. Free from that? Hallelujah. Besides it's not like she wants to *destroy all spirits*, just the Lords. Who are hinted to be fake anyway. 9- So are plenty of characters. Senjougahara is plenty unpleasant. Ditto Accelerator. Heck, I could probably do something like hand you the entire list of tsunderes. Disliking someone's personality is subjective and not a concrete reason for saying someone is bad. As for arrogance, I don't recall a single instance of that either. In relation to Claire, she's always going on about how much better than her Claire was.
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2013-03-22, 20:32 | Link #4135 | |
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2013-03-22, 21:20 | Link #4136 |
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Heck, that may be for the better. Humans will continue to develop and grow. New advances will arise, society will expand, as time marches ever on. The world turns. Nothing lasts forever. All that is must one day end, to make way for those who follow, in the eternal path towards the future..
..not that I expect anything so far reaching of course, but it's nice and poetic.
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2013-03-22, 21:39 | Link #4137 | |
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As for Rubia being the heroine, that's impossible. It doesn't matter how noble your goals are, once you indulge in "ends justify the means" kind of thinking, you can't be a hero. Quote:
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2013-03-22, 22:39 | Link #4139 |
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Quite the heated discussion we are having. I do understand both sides so far, and both having strong arguments. Though keep in mind, despite Rubia being defeated in vol 10, we only got a bit of the story. Rubia have given her reasons and such for her actions (before anyone jumps on me asking does that make it justified, no it doesn't) and her methods have been rather not pleasant, the big picture is the extent of what Rubia saying is true. Rubia wants to free the control of humanity of the Elemental Lords, though looking at it from an outsider perspective, this could have been her only option since the entire world is depended on them. There are still blanks to fill before condemning Rubia as a complete monster (yes, again I already know what she done, I have read through this Light Novel several times and analyze the context so please do not remark saying did you even read the series). I want to get a little more blanks filled to come with a conclusion because it appears the story is going to go on longer after the Blade Dance.
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