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Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 02:11

Of course, Tatenashi reveals she saved the person from falling to her death earlier since they could use all the info they could.

Should he be wearing the sit during this encounter or not yet? It'll be a more hectic fight if not since he doesn't have the strength to overpower her and has to keep tripping her up till she smashes into the doorway.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-12-25, 02:13

WITHOUT suit, it'll serves as Awesome Moment AND Funny Moment at the same time.

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 02:18

@ Senpai - It doesn't help that he's hyperventilating the entire fight since the skull suit isn't there to calm him down and he's being pressed against a person wearing something akin to a tight swimsuit

How do I end the fight?

1. They both struggle for a while and he eventually manages to trip her up and grapple her out of the plane.

2. Both of them end up overboard. The girl hangs onto the plane while he hangs onto the girl so nether of them fall. Then he takes out his knife, stabs her, then uses it to propel himself back on the plane.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-12-25, 02:40

Umm, how Irish got a knife again? Being a prisoner, logically he doesn't have one.

The first is funnier and more realistic.

demino_hellsin · 2011-12-25, 02:45

does anyone know the standard speed of an IS? Flight speed?

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 02:52

@ Senpai - Tatenashi gave it back to him when the attack happened. She's not cruel enough to leave him undefended during an attack. Also, if I go with the first one, how do I make him win? He's weaker than her since he doesn't have the suit.

@ Demi - Near Hypersonic.

demino_hellsin · 2011-12-25, 02:56

so... like say Rafael goes at mach 0.8 on average and Uchigane at about 0.5?

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 02:57

Akatsubaki and Byaku Shiki are the fastest. The others are near average.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-12-25, 02:59

That's quite a debate there... Demi....

Silver Gospel is said to be able to fly at hypersonic speed nonstop (Mach 5.0), and so far only Akatsubaki is faster (and later ByakuShiki Setsura), ByakuShiki and BT Strike Gunner just close but still slower. So, probably everyone else is "Under Mach 5", no details are given. The fight is at high altitude.

White Knight is able to go-SSTO as she finished annihilating the fleet in flashback (which translates to Mach fucking 70!).

However, at low altitude, likely around subsonic (Mach 0.7) and under (considering they can't even evade missile and somehow no sonic boom ever depicted). Mind you this is from anime depiction.

Based on this comparison, I.S. speed is directly related to altitude and air resistance.

In mine there's number and detail, but it's all fanon.

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 03:02

@ Demi - In short, they can beat most planes by miles.

@ Senpai - Asked a question in the previous post

demino_hellsin · 2011-12-25, 03:07

Tabane is a monster >.>

The idea of all this is weird because if white knight is that strong and Tabane says that Akatsubaki is the strongest IS ever made(though I think it's only the current strongest in existence) that means Houki is inept because the Akatsubaki should be able to function on the same level as White Knight.

Back to the subject of speed, so is it safe to assume all IS can travel at supersonic speeds? Just not quite hypersonic?

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 03:09

Not sure about that. They just said that White Knight was good enough to dodge missiles and attack them with just a BFS

HasuMasu · 2011-12-25, 03:11

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Originally Posted by Eratas123

Not sure about that. They just said that White Knight was good enough to dodge missiles and attack them with just a BFS

I think that has more to do with the uhh...pilot.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-12-25, 03:13

@Eras
Use scenario 1, but him have the knife will help.

@Demi
Yes.

@Eras
White knight don't dodge it, she TANKED it since SAM, AAM and Vulcan won't do jack to the shield while occasionally dodge. (its' from V3 snapshot by Jak)
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Listing of speed in my Fanon (High Altitude, standard temperature)

Schwarzer Regen: Mach 3.55 (With Special Booster)
ShenLong: Mach 3.75
KuroGane: Mach 3.8 (With Special Booster)
Rafael Revive: Mach 4.1
Blue Tears: Mach 4.4
ByakuShiki: Mach 4.5
BT Gunner: Mach 4.85
BS Setsura: Mach 4.95
Silver Gospel: Mach 5.1
ShiroKishi (Refit): Mach 5.25
Akatsubaki: Mach 5.35
ShiroKishi: Mach 5.5

Note: that during the Gospel Battle, Both KuroGane and Scwharzer Regen didn't use extension booster, instead they use heavy sniper and artilery package thus is much slower than this number and basically firing from the surface.

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 03:14

You also have to take note of the fact that it was streamlined and most likely moved faster since it was so small and thin.

@ Senpai - So he just stabs her and kicks her overboard?

demino_hellsin · 2011-12-25, 03:18

Uchigane can't be that fast though right?

HasuMasu · 2011-12-25, 03:18

I'm not really sure what the Whit Knight's appearance is, it's not like it was ever illustrated in the novels.

In fact Izuru did say they wanted to take quite a few liberties with the anime, so I take it with a sack of salt.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-12-25, 03:20

@ Eras
Yes

@Demi
If you follow the common fanon that normal Uchigane can't fly too high, then yes.

@Box
Back to square one....

Eratas123 · 2011-12-25, 03:23

If we don't know something, let's make something up as long as it doesn't break canon!

demino_hellsin · 2011-12-25, 03:24

Aww man... too bad I'll have to go in a bit. When I get back I hope you guys can give me feedback on a fight scene I might post here.

EDIT: I prefer to twist canon.

2011-12-25, 02:11	Link #14641
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Of course, Tatenashi reveals she saved the person from falling to her death earlier since they could use all the info they could. Should he be wearing the sit during this encounter or not yet? It'll be a more hectic fight if not since he doesn't have the strength to overpower her and has to keep tripping her up till she smashes into the doorway. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:13	Link #14642
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	WITHOUT suit, it'll serves as Awesome Moment AND Funny Moment at the same time. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:18	Link #14643
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - It doesn't help that he's hyperventilating the entire fight since the skull suit isn't there to calm him down and he's being pressed against a person wearing something akin to a tight swimsuit How do I end the fight? 1. They both struggle for a while and he eventually manages to trip her up and grapple her out of the plane. 2. Both of them end up overboard. The girl hangs onto the plane while he hangs onto the girl so nether of them fall. Then he takes out his knife, stabs her, then uses it to propel himself back on the plane. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:40	Link #14644
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Umm, how Irish got a knife again? Being a prisoner, logically he doesn't have one. The first is funnier and more realistic. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:52	Link #14646
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Tatenashi gave it back to him when the attack happened. She's not cruel enough to leave him undefended during an attack. Also, if I go with the first one, how do I make him win? He's weaker than her since he doesn't have the suit. @ Demi - Near Hypersonic. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:45	Link #14645
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	does anyone know the standard speed of an IS? Flight speed?

2011-12-25, 02:56	Link #14647
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	so... like say Rafael goes at mach 0.8 on average and Uchigane at about 0.5?

2011-12-25, 02:57	Link #14648
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Akatsubaki and Byaku Shiki are the fastest. The others are near average. __________________

2011-12-25, 02:59	Link #14649
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	That's quite a debate there... Demi.... Silver Gospel is said to be able to fly at hypersonic speed nonstop (Mach 5.0), and so far only Akatsubaki is faster (and later ByakuShiki Setsura), ByakuShiki and BT Strike Gunner just close but still slower. So, probably everyone else is "Under Mach 5", no details are given. The fight is at high altitude. White Knight is able to go-SSTO as she finished annihilating the fleet in flashback (which translates to Mach fucking 70!). However, at low altitude, likely around subsonic (Mach 0.7) and under (considering they can't even evade missile and somehow no sonic boom ever depicted). Mind you this is from anime depiction. Based on this comparison, I.S. speed is directly related to altitude and air resistance. In mine there's number and detail, but it's all fanon. __________________

2011-12-25, 03:02	Link #14650
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Demi - In short, they can beat most planes by miles. @ Senpai - Asked a question in the previous post __________________

2011-12-25, 03:07	Link #14651
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Tabane is a monster >.> The idea of all this is weird because if white knight is that strong and Tabane says that Akatsubaki is the strongest IS ever made(though I think it's only the current strongest in existence) that means Houki is inept because the Akatsubaki should be able to function on the same level as White Knight. Back to the subject of speed, so is it safe to assume all IS can travel at supersonic speeds? Just not quite hypersonic?

2011-12-25, 03:09	Link #14652
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Not sure about that. They just said that White Knight was good enough to dodge missiles and attack them with just a BFS __________________

2011-12-25, 03:13	Link #14654
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@Eras Use scenario 1, but him have the knife will help. @Demi Yes. @Eras White knight don't dodge it, she TANKED it since SAM, AAM and Vulcan won't do jack to the shield while occasionally dodge. (its' from V3 snapshot by Jak) ---------------------------------------------- Listing of speed in my Fanon (High Altitude, standard temperature) Schwarzer Regen: Mach 3.55 (With Special Booster) ShenLong: Mach 3.75 KuroGane: Mach 3.8 (With Special Booster) Rafael Revive: Mach 4.1 Blue Tears: Mach 4.4 ByakuShiki: Mach 4.5 BT Gunner: Mach 4.85 BS Setsura: Mach 4.95 Silver Gospel: Mach 5.1 ShiroKishi (Refit): Mach 5.25 Akatsubaki: Mach 5.35 ShiroKishi: Mach 5.5 Note: that during the Gospel Battle, Both KuroGane and Scwharzer Regen didn't use extension booster, instead they use heavy sniper and artilery package thus is much slower than this number and basically firing from the surface. __________________

2011-12-25, 03:14	Link #14655
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	You also have to take note of the fact that it was streamlined and most likely moved faster since it was so small and thin. @ Senpai - So he just stabs her and kicks her overboard? __________________

2011-12-25, 03:18	Link #14656
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Uchigane can't be that fast though right?

2011-12-25, 03:18	Link #14657
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	I'm not really sure what the Whit Knight's appearance is, it's not like it was ever illustrated in the novels. In fact Izuru did say they wanted to take quite a few liberties with the anime, so I take it with a sack of salt. __________________

2011-12-25, 03:20	Link #14658
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@ Eras Yes @Demi If you follow the common fanon that normal Uchigane can't fly too high, then yes. @Box Back to square one.... __________________

2011-12-25, 03:23	Link #14659
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	If we don't know something, let's make something up as long as it doesn't break canon! __________________

2011-12-25, 03:24	Link #14660
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Aww man... too bad I'll have to go in a bit. When I get back I hope you guys can give me feedback on a fight scene I might post here. EDIT: I prefer to twist canon.