2013-06-01, 11:24 | Link #141 |
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How could Minato gain the 9tails cloak? Until Kishi explains here are some guesses.
1.His eternal battle within the death god.This is a good guess but it's supposed to be a eternal battle with no victory.I imagine there might still be a way to obtain it during the fight without actually beating the 9 tails.And would the Ying chakra be a physical manifestation? 2. Could Kushina pass on beast chakra similar to the way Naruto is right now.If she ever passed some beast Chakra to Minato maybe he learned how to utilize it then. 3.Maybe when he arrived on the battle field the chakra cloak was activated just by being close to Naruto.Minato may know automatically how to use it because it is Ying chakra with different mental type powers,maybe. |
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2013-06-01, 14:36 | Link #144 |
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No, Madara was unsummoned and then summoned himself back to the world whereas Hashirama is simply too powerful to be controlled by Edo-Tensei.
Although considering Madara has Shodai's DNA and god-like power as well and the fact that Hashirama probably also knows the handseals for Edo-Tensei they are presumably both uncontrollable and impossible to dismiss if they so wish. |
2013-06-01, 18:17 | Link #147 | |
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2013-06-01, 23:42 | Link #148 | |
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Tobirama wanted to leave and then Orochimaru made sure they couldn't... where he noticed he had no control over Hashirama.
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2013-06-02, 07:31 | Link #150 |
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I really don't understand why Kishi would paint himself into a corner like this.
Theres a huge fight coming up. Why would he purposely insert Sakura into a seemingly major role in the fight? It might make for some cheesy "yeah team 7!" moment, but having her actively involved will have ramifications - Namely he will have to limit the fight around her, or pull even more extravagant out of thin air powers for her which would make zero sense considering her non-role in any fights so far during the war. Hmmm ... Madara, Juubi, naruto, sasuke, hashirama, tobirama, yondaime, Sarutobi and ... sakura. How is it going to be even remotely believable that Sakura is of any use in such a fight ? Unless she is going to be sacrificed as a plot progressor with her getting injured/dead , I do not see how her involvement will do anything but make the upcoming fight full of eye-rolling moments as we see contrived maneuverings on Kishi's part as he attempts to include her into the fight. We already saw this right off the bat with the Juubi goofily splitting into mini-parts just so we can see her punch one of them. |
2013-06-02, 07:41 | Link #151 | |
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Remember Sakura's seal is different from Tsunade's, and she still haven't released yet. When she does she will become even more powerful, maybe even gain a few new abilities to. So don't count her just yet.
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second. shine on sakura, shine on...
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2013-06-02, 11:07 | Link #154 | |
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Sakura is a major character only in the sense that shes a one dimensional character who kishi never bothered to update to any significant degree. Even characters like Lee, Neji, Hinata, have had more layering and progression. I can barely remember a single panel devoted to her training with Tsunade. Every time she is inserted into major plot-lines it always ends up contrived, including the time she made that ridiculous love proposal to Naruto. It's almost as if her wholesome bookworm starting point at the manga made her too boring for Kishi to bother updating. We didn't even get a single flashback dedicated to her to try and give her some intrigue. It would have been awesome to have sakura more involved in the story in a serious way, but that requires gradual buildup over time. You can't simply ignore her for the entire manga, and then try to sticky-glue her into incredulous roles during the climax of the story. The same way you can't have a dream-team sports match with multi-era legends, and then announce that a 3rd tier bench player is going to be starting on the team. Where was her "can't be wounded monster strength" usefulness in the 100 chapters when all the top tier shinobi were given panel-time to show them in critical fights against various resurrected edo-mummies. You can argue that shes a "medical ninja" and was needed at the hospitals, but the truth is that the reason Kishi gave her that medical role so early was as a way to get rid of her during fights without having to seem chauvinist about sidelining her to watch from the benches. So yes its completely ridiculous that her out of thin air mike-tyson powers are suddenly treated as relevant in what is supposed to be the highest level shinobi fight so far in the entire manga. As absurd as it may sound, it has nothing to do with not wanting the "idea" of sakura there. Ie. the idea of the team7 being relevant in a kind of full-circle symmetrical way (major roles in the start of the manga, major roles at the end of it). The problem is that one of those in team 7, was completely ignored for 80% of the manga. It makes no sense to forcibly include her where she fits least (in the midst of a direct fight). It would definitely most obviously make sense to give her a pivotal role in some decision/drama/persuasion that ultimately closes out the manga since she was indeed kept relevant in THAT sense of development. But when It comes to actual fighting, anything she does is merely a distraction at best, a momentum/believability killer at worst. Last edited by Cookie-Monster; 2013-06-02 at 11:39. |
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2013-06-02, 12:05 | Link #155 | |
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she'll be better than tsunade, meaning she can smash through susano'o. even though she won't be the star she has more to offer than we've seen so far for certain, but eventually she'll fall back to being a healer and a human shield for sasuke and naruto |
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2013-06-02, 12:22 | Link #156 | |
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You can suspend your disbelief toward Sakura fighting also to Team 10 and Team 8. We are at the end of the manga. They'll be the heroes. |
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2013-06-02, 13:01 | Link #157 | ||||||
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team 7 is the new sannin…like it or not/believe it or not….everything they could do, 7 will do better.(jiraiya sage mode vs naruto sage mode) Quote:
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im not saying she is going to land any final/killing blows to any of the final villains…her role in this new team 7 will likely be to keep naruto and sasuke powered up/alive. To that end she has developed a new power that at the very least will keep her not "in the way" (at least i hope)….is this really that unbelievable?
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2013-06-02, 13:51 | Link #158 |
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it goes without saying that sakura needed more panel time, but nevertheless she is and has been impressive. she's much younger than kakashi was at the start of the story and she's pretty much a better ninja than he was at that time, meaning very high class jounin. of course a top notch jounin is nothing nowadays when nearly everyone who matters is god-like, but in the scheme of things it's pretty good... that said, i dont mean to imply that her character was written well, just that her involvement in this final fight isn't all that outlandish
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