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Myssa Rei · 2013-10-21, 20:14

What? They reduced the time to Takao's delusions? Oh wow, ruined, definitely ruined!

*shakes fist at production*

In all seriousness though I'm worried at what was taken out, as it has a HUGE bearing on the battle to come, as well as the strategy to transport the blueprints to the US.

Spoiler for Comparison:

Master Assassin · 2013-10-21, 20:21

Spoiler for sub:

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-21, 20:34

Iona shivering while being scanned was adorable.

Wild Goose · 2013-10-21, 21:17

Fine, fine. Can we all agree that the anime is a travesty and ruined forever and get it outta the way for this week?

There is nothing wrong with a critical examination of the merits and flaws of a work, but last week was ridiculous- almost the whole week was taken up with complaints about the anime. About the only worthwhile discussion that got done was trying to figure out how screwed the nations of the world are.

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-21, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Fine, fine. Can we all agree that the anime is a travesty and ruined forever and get it outta the way for this week?

That's the thing though. Last week had very minor, if any changes. This week? They outright cut out a major part of how Gunzou and co were even able to stand up to two battlecruisers.

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-21, 21:43

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were even able to stand up to two battlecruisers.

"Are going to be able". They haven't stood up to them yet.

Unless you're all still talking about manga spoiler material here in the anime thread.

Why don't we wait patiently and see what comes of it, instead of just assuming it's ruined forever?

AC-Phoenix · 2013-10-21, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

"Are going to be able". They haven't stood up to them yet.

Unless you're all still talking about manga spoiler material here in the anime thread.

Why don't we wait patiently and see what comes of it, instead of just assuming it's ruined forever?

Well if you don't already have play danganronpa and then watch the anime, its a good example for this creative team's ability to screw up stories by cutting important stuff, moving it around to random places as well as adding scenes that never actually happened.
So being overly negative about it is , sadly, not without reason.
Atm for example it appears as if at least two characters got cut out entirely, which would be extremely dumb as said characters are important for the story.

Master Assassin · 2013-10-21, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

That's the thing though. Last week had very minor, if any changes. This week? They outright cut out a major part of how Gunzou and co were even able to stand up to two battlecruisers.

It was quite the major change, but in a sense I kind of welcomed it (sans that part, naturally, that puzzled me a lot). I might have some conflicting views for some particular things shown to us especially when it was major, but I... am a sucker for Kirishima's anime design.

Now time to wait for next episode's preview... and hope we get some things right. In the best assumptions of right.

Tranhieu · 2013-10-21, 23:24

Eh? It's not that bad an episode, and there I thought it was much worse after reading the comments here but it turned out to be quite enjoyable. Sure all the left out bits are very important but I will keep some faith in the production team this time. They managed to adapt the first battle well enough so there's a chance they can do the same this time (though it's much tougher)?

I actually like the dialogues in this episode, especially the slice of life-ish ones. Normally fillers like those are unnecessary and have no contribution to the main story but the fillers here give the characters depth and don't make they look dumb. Ryoukan was portrayed very well too, and it was easier to grasp his character, while in the manga it took quite a few chapters to see through his motives and the conflict he has with Kamikage.

My only gripe here is things are moving a bit too fast. They should have made this episode into 2. I really hoped they animated the part where Iona had to evade Haruna and Kirishima to get back to Gunzou, but that's what we get for sacrificing Hakugei...

That aside, seeing how things go at this pace I'm a bit worried they will try to cramp as many battles as they can, leaving no possibility for a season 2...

Btw anyone noticed the OP was changed slightly this week?

LoweGear · 2013-10-21, 23:27

Is it wrong that despite the changes to the manga, I'm still actually enjoying the anime? Not everything has to be compared to the source material, and I'd rather enjoy the anime by its own merits, while taking occasional references to the manga.

And oh Takao, never change.

ZabiLegacy · 2013-10-21, 23:30

Seiji Kishi does really dumb things when adapting anime? Stop the presses!

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-21, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Tranhieu

Btw anyone noticed the OP was changed slightly this week?

Yep. It was interesting. I saw some quick flashes of scenes from this week's episode, and others that went by too quick for me to recognize. Also the stuff immediately after the ship-data segment was different. I wonder if it will change every week.

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-21, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Master Assassin

when it was major, but I... am a sucker for Kirishima's anime design.

Said design came from one of the volume covers (4, I think). She never actually ever wore it in the manga. ^^;

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Is it wrong that despite the changes to the manga, I'm still actually enjoying the anime?

This isn't wrong, but again, said missing thing figures importantly later on. It really seems like the production is REALLY are working under the assumption that this will be it, and there won't be any follow-up anime series. See the decision to give all of Yamato's lines to Kongou instead.

dark998 · 2013-10-21, 23:44

Sanzigen is doing a great job slowly adding more emotions to Iona, now she has other kind of facial expressions in addition to ther usual poker face. And also Iona belly fanservice! Manga had some instances of that were missing till now.

As for the storyline, a quite important element was ommited and since that element affects directly the result of the upcoming battle...I have no idea what will happen next.

Master Assassin · 2013-10-21, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Said design came from one of the volume covers (4, I think). She never actually ever wore it in the manga. ^^;

Yes, I do recognize that design, and that burned into my head instantly when I saw said cover. Kinda a "Uho! Nice design... but who's this?"

I tried looking for a very certain keyword in this thread before actually mentioning it which is "tea." Yep, these scenes. That was one of the things that got me curious... and considering the series subtitle and source material, I think we should really be much more wary of more deviations to come.

D-Joe · 2013-10-22, 00:14

Well i'm sure if anime staff have Attack on Titan level's money and 2 cour,you can see 100% adaptation from manga,i think

I don't hate the change though,anime have their way to go,if it's good after all,then i'm fine with it

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-22, 00:21

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And also Iona belly fanservice!

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Humble Loser · 2013-10-22, 03:28

Another good episode. I'm liking the show more with each passing episode.

On a side note, I love the main tune that comes on during battles. It reminds me somewhat of the music in the Final Fantasy series (especially music from FF XIII/FF XIII-2).

Tenzen12 · 2013-10-22, 03:55

I don't usualy mind changes, if they are reasonable, yet one submarine against two battleship of Fog is not reasonable, but suicidical. Taking them out is completely unrealistic.

whitecloud · 2013-10-22, 04:21

I guess we may get hakugei next week, and introduction to marui (maybe by radio) and they come to help and somehow have a corrosive torpedo on hand, and the rest of the battle will flow like the manga

2013-10-21, 20:14	Link #621
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	What? They reduced the time to Takao's delusions? Oh wow, ruined, definitely ruined! shakes fist at production In all seriousness though I'm worried at what was taken out, as it has a HUGE bearing on the battle to come, as well as the strategy to transport the blueprints to the US. Spoiler for Comparison: I'm speaking of the Hakugei of course, which played a pivotal role as a decoy in the Yokosuka battle, and in the manga actually *finished off Kirishima's and Haruna's combined battlecruiser body*. __________________

2013-10-21, 20:21	Link #622
Master Assassin Portable Dude Mk. II Artist Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: All ghillied up spying on someone ~2,000 yards away using telescope sights. Age: 35	Spoiler for sub: Yep, looks like the anime made Takao's intent to defect to Gunzou's side explicit. __________________ I like to run portable on my dude, so I ran while running runs in my portably portable, dude-like dude. --- This line over here is a placeholder. ----

2013-10-21, 20:34	Link #623
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Iona shivering while being scanned was adorable. __________________

2013-10-21, 21:17	Link #624
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	Fine, fine. Can we all agree that the anime is a travesty and ruined forever and get it outta the way for this week? There is nothing wrong with a critical examination of the merits and flaws of a work, but last week was ridiculous- almost the whole week was taken up with complaints about the anime. About the only worthwhile discussion that got done was trying to figure out how screwed the nations of the world are. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-10-21, 23:27	Link #630
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	Is it wrong that despite the changes to the manga, I'm still actually enjoying the anime? Not everything has to be compared to the source material, and I'd rather enjoy the anime by its own merits, while taking occasional references to the manga. And oh Takao, never change. __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2013-10-21, 23:24	Link #629
Tranhieu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	Eh? It's not that bad an episode, and there I thought it was much worse after reading the comments here but it turned out to be quite enjoyable. Sure all the left out bits are very important but I will keep some faith in the production team this time. They managed to adapt the first battle well enough so there's a chance they can do the same this time (though it's much tougher)? I actually like the dialogues in this episode, especially the slice of life-ish ones. Normally fillers like those are unnecessary and have no contribution to the main story but the fillers here give the characters depth and don't make they look dumb. Ryoukan was portrayed very well too, and it was easier to grasp his character, while in the manga it took quite a few chapters to see through his motives and the conflict he has with Kamikage. My only gripe here is things are moving a bit too fast. They should have made this episode into 2. I really hoped they animated the part where Iona had to evade Haruna and Kirishima to get back to Gunzou, but that's what we get for sacrificing Hakugei... That aside, seeing how things go at this pace I'm a bit worried they will try to cramp as many battles as they can, leaving no possibility for a season 2... Btw anyone noticed the OP was changed slightly this week?

2013-10-21, 23:30	Link #631
ZabiLegacy Robo Rampage Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Aboa Qu	Seiji Kishi does really dumb things when adapting anime? Stop the presses! __________________ For more from me, follow my writing at http://sekijitsu.com. To get easy accesses to our newest posts, please consider liking our brand spanking new Facebook Page.

2013-10-21, 23:44	Link #634
dark998 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Sanzigen is doing a great job slowly adding more emotions to Iona, now she has other kind of facial expressions in addition to ther usual poker face. And also Iona belly fanservice! Manga had some instances of that were missing till now. As for the storyline, a quite important element was ommited and since that element affects directly the result of the upcoming battle...I have no idea what will happen next.

2013-10-22, 00:14	Link #636
D-Joe Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Well i'm sure if anime staff have Attack on Titan level's money and 2 cour,you can see 100% adaptation from manga,i think I don't hate the change though,anime have their way to go,if it's good after all,then i'm fine with it

2013-10-22, 03:28	Link #638
Humble Loser Spineless Main Character Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Anywhere & Everywhere	Another good episode. I'm liking the show more with each passing episode. On a side note, I love the main tune that comes on during battles. It reminds me somewhat of the music in the Final Fantasy series (especially music from FF XIII/FF XIII-2).

2013-10-22, 03:55	Link #639
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	I don't usualy mind changes, if they are reasonable, yet one submarine against two battleship of Fog is not reasonable, but suicidical. Taking them out is completely unrealistic.

2013-10-22, 04:21	Link #640
whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I guess we may get hakugei next week, and introduction to marui (maybe by radio) and they come to help and somehow have a corrosive torpedo on hand, and the rest of the battle will flow like the manga __________________ Friends are nice.......