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I'm used to interpeting Madoka's apology in the anime as not using her wish to save Sayaka (that would destroy ANY kind of future all right, since Madoka would have become Gretchen and we all saw Homura lost the will to make new timelines). Any details referring to Madoka pulling off God-like manipulation of the world break upon a question - how can she do that? She didn't wish to be a goddess and have conscious reality-warping powers, that's for sure. Of course, there's always the point about acquired powers which are related to the wish made (Homura's time stop, Sayaka's fast recovery, Kyouko's hinted mind control/illusions/whatever). It would be an interesting point to explore regarding Madoka, but I'm notsure where to start. Even her status is abnormal - on one hand, she's a magical girl, on the other hand, she's no longer bound to time and physical matters, and in the mundane universe, her contract has technically expired the moment she turned into a witch. Sigh, one thing 4chan was right about: Japanese interviewers seem to tiptoe around the show too much. There are many more interesting questions to ask Magica Quartet. Until then, speculah and WMG is our fate. And I'm too cautious about Hanokage's interpretation since she's known to have interpreted things differently from canon already.
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2011-06-28, 16:28 | Link #83 |
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Chapter 12 is finally out: http://shinitan.wordpress.com/2011/0...ro-vol1-batch/
Pretty much the same as the anime, but with one major difference. The epilogue is different. Instead of Homura continuing to fight the demons in a desert, we see that she finally reunites with Madoka in Magical Girl Heaven. She's back in her Moemura appearance, and she ask Madoka if she's alright with being friends with her. Madoka tells her that they've always been friends, now and forever. And then they walk off into the light.....o god my tears can't stop flowing The manga makes me wonder what it would be like if this scene was used in the anime instead of the desert scene.
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2011-07-06, 08:41 | Link #86 |
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Other country also get affected by the flood because some other people also got watch Madoka...if Gen makes an alternate ending in BD/DVD(meaning 2 episode 12). Then i think...yea.(My house will be greatly flooded, dunno what happen to japan,maybe other countries also, America too)
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2011-07-29, 07:33 | Link #87 |
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Just a head's up :-
Vol.1 of the first official authorised oversea-chinese release under publisher Tong Li will be slated to released on August 11th in Taiwan. Any official English seems unlikely under the current condition of most American's Manga Publisher. |
2011-08-03, 22:06 | Link #89 | |
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Do I really have to point this out?
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2011-08-03, 22:23 | Link #90 | ||||
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I get why one might be displeased with the ending; your mileage will definitely vary on that. But to call the ending a complete betrayal of the principles the story had been showing until that point, when in fact the ending was meant to show what happens when you do show proper care for what you wish for, is just wrong. |
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2011-08-03, 22:53 | Link #91 | |
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Because, if you are, how can you not see how many things are wrong about that conclusion? And it's not just that. Once again, Madoka is not just a really, really, really careful thinker. By the story's own admission, her wish was only feasible because a bullshit rule change came out of nowhere at the last second and was required to work in tandem with the fact that she's a really, really, really careful thinker. |
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2011-08-03, 22:58 | Link #92 | |
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And the rule change wasn't out of left field; not really, anyway. We got several (two off of the top of my head, maybe more) hints at Madoka's potential being godlike in nature, although she always assumed Kyubey was exaggerating. The only thing that changed was that we learned that she quite literally was godlike in potential (although I never saw any reason to believe Kyubey was at all exaggerating), and we learned why that was. How is that out of nowhere? |
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2011-08-03, 23:05 | Link #93 | |
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2011-08-03, 23:35 | Link #94 | |||||
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If this had been a brainless Magical Girl series played straight, I wouldn't have a problem with this. Certain female characters possessing unrivaled magical potential "just because" happens all the time in this genre. However, when something is critically acclaimed as a deep and tightly written deconstruction of Magical Girl stories and tries to get away with the same cheesiness, I'm going to have a field day with it. Quote:
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Homura forced her to do nothing. The only reason Homura didn't just set her clock back and do the same old same old while she was lying there with her ankle buried in rubble was because Kyubey had literally just finished bringing up the "Karmic Destiny" ultimatum out of nowhere to conveniently block that option. |
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2011-08-03, 23:54 | Link #95 | ||
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Also, here's a hint: Kyuubey tells every Mahou Shoujo that they can have anything they wish for, not just Madoka. It's not that Madoka has god powers that somehow enable her to wish for things that other Puella Magi couldn't; it's just that Madoka can pour more energy into her wish without burning out her soul gem. Madoka turns into a witch almost immediately after making her wish in both the 'fourth' and 'fifth' timelines, so it's not actually like Madoka's gigantic soul gem ultimately really saved anything; in actuality, it's only the fact that Madoka's wish was itself to prevent the birth of witches that allowed her to work things out in the end. |
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2011-08-04, 01:54 | Link #96 | ||||
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Because the notion that it took thousands of years for Einstein x 1000000000 to appear in the form of a single school girl is absolutely ridiculous. That's why.
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1. Most of the ancient Magical Girls Madoka visited were obviously aware they were doomed to become Witches. 2. Homura didn't actually *teach* Madoka anything. Everything Madoka knows came from observing the downfall of Sayaka, a standard Magical Girl from her own universe. Quote:
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You're either forgetting why Homura is actually in despair in that scene, or you're ignoring it because it contradicts your argument. In any case, please recall that Homura was at first all like "Well this sucks." And then she thinks to herself, "Psst. Screw it. I'll just go back and try again." But then she abruptly STOPS! And she does so solely because she feels... So, yeah, the show's own canon defeats your entire case. The ONLY reason she won't time travel again is because Kyubey gave her a contrived piece of information that forbids her from doing so. Quote:
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2011-08-04, 02:35 | Link #97 | |||||
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2. Sayaka's downfall was unusual in the first place. Not many mahou shoujo are crazy enough to try throwing their Soul Gems off a bridge. Also, it is Kyuubey who provides a fair degree of the information that ultimately led Madoka towards her solution. The only reason Kyuubey ever said so much was precisely because Homura kept warning her, thus forcing Kyuubey to provide ever more information and justifications. Quote:
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2012-05-21, 22:10 | Link #99 |
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The series has been licensed in the US by Yen Press, with the first volume being released in May 2012.
Official page for US manga release
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2012-06-07, 21:02 | Link #100 |
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The Puella Magi Madoka Magica franchise is creating another manga series.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...a-magica-manga
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