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Westlo · 2012-04-08, 08:27

I can see why Kyoto Animation didn't want to deal with Little Busters though.. like Clannad it will require a lot of episodes to get right.

2007 October - Clannad Start
2008 March - Clannad End
2008 September- Lucky Star OVA
2008 October - Clannad AS Start
2009 Jan - Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai Start
2009 March - Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai End
2009 March - Clannad AS End

Munto was also only 9 episodes long and IIRC the first 6 were just the material from the OVAs... so over an 18 month period they only did Clannad apart from 1 Lucky Star OVA and 3 Episodes of Munto. Little Busters would require a similar investment of manpower and time.. I don't think Kyoto Animation were interesting in doing that again... AIR was just 1 cour + and OVA later on, Kanon 2006 was just two cours and than finished... Clannad was an 18 month investment.

AbZeroNow · 2012-04-08, 11:12

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Originally Posted by Coldlight

Uh, you need to revise your timeline now that KyoAni isn't doing Little Busters!...

Maybe he already did.

I have to admit that piece of news was a shocker for me. Neither KyoAni nor P.A. Works ended up doing Little Busters! contrary to several people's (including my own) expectations. I wonder what this development means for further Key/KyoAni collaboration in the future. Rewrite in particular, if it gets an anime.

<also insert mandatory "Where's my new FMP series?" here>

Yeah, I was definitely proven wrong, and I am really surprised by Key going with J.C Staff. But I guess I'll save those thoughts for the J.C Staff thread or the Little Busters thread. I would have responded sooner, but I went to Anime Boston Friday and yesterday and thus was quite busy.

I suppose the next thing I could be proven wrong on is Hyouka.

Anyway, I don't think I can project anything useful for 2013 yet, but here goes:

Spring & Summer 2012: Hyouka(21 episodes)
Fall 2012: Chuuni-Byou Demo Koi ga Shitai!
Spring 2013: New TBS/Pony Canyon project(Guess: K-ON!!!)
Fall 2013: New Kadokawa project(I really hope this is where more Haruhi anime goes. 2013 is the 10th anniversary of the start of the light novels as somebody pointed in one of the Haruhi threads.)

If more K-ON is announced for 2013, at least TBS/Pony Canyon knows where the money is(SHAFT or Aniplex is another: see more -monogateri anime greenlit to be made). I wouldn't be terribly surprised(and I am expecting it) if TBS/Pony Canyon brought an entirely new project for KyoAni to work on for 2013.

rulfo · 2012-04-23, 04:22

New KyoAni CM.

darkchibi07 · 2012-04-23, 10:43

That a rather different style KyoAni used for that commercial. Almost reminds me of those old E-surance commercials.

Tempester · 2012-04-27, 16:53

No Winners Announced for 3rd Kyoto Animation Award.

This is the third year in a row that they haven't given out a grand prize, this year just takes it one step further.

Ithekro · 2012-04-27, 17:08

One wonders what standards they are using?

It is rather different than a typical American contest were there is always a winner.

(Though I'd let Yuki molest my books)

Kaioshin Sama · 2012-04-27, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Tempester

No Winners Announced for 3rd Kyoto Animation Award.

This is the third year in a row that they haven't given out a grand prize, this year just takes it one step further.

In order to save some time in the thread:

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Originally Posted by Random Fan (Negative)

What they didn't give an award, what's the point of even having these awards then?!!!

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Originally Posted by Random Fan (Positive)

Well Kyoani deserves many kudos for not giving out an award if it isn't deserved

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

I for one think this is one of the best longest runnest jokes in the anime industry right now.

Proto · 2012-04-27, 17:24

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Originally Posted by Random Fan (Positive)

stop stealing my lines.

Dextro · 2012-04-27, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

One wonders what standards they are using?

It is rather different than a typical American contest were there is always a winner.

(Though I'd let Yuki molest my books)

Well, the currently airing Hyouka is an adaptation of one of the Honorable Mentions of the contest so let's wait and see how it turns out. Who knows, maybe there really isn't anything awesome showing up.

ultimatemegax · 2012-04-27, 18:28

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Originally Posted by Dextro

Well, the currently airing Hyouka is an adaptation of one of the Honorable Mentions of the contest so let's wait and see how it turns out. Who knows, maybe there really isn't anything awesome showing up.

Hyouka, the first novel of the Kotenbu series, was first published in 2001. KyoAni has only been involved in it for the past year or so depending on the planning for this anime adaptation.

The title you are thinking of is the light novel series Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai, which was an honorable mention in the 2009 light novel category.

Lord of Fire · 2012-04-28, 00:23

If they're holding a contest where no one can ever win, why hold the contest to begin with? At least last year they had some Honorable Mentions, but even those weren't awarded this time around. Is KyoAni that critical towards other people's work, or is there more going on that we're not being told about?

Westlo · 2012-04-28, 01:00

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Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

If they're holding a contest where no one can ever win, why hold the contest to begin with? At least last year they had some Honorable Mentions, but even those weren't awarded this time around. Is KyoAni that critical towards other people's work, or is there more going on that we're not being told about?

It's not like this is a KyoAni only thing... required reading...

Not to mention I'm pretty sure that anything they award a Grand Prize to they have to animate... considering their output this isn't a trivial thing to give away.

Triple_R · 2012-04-28, 07:47

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Originally Posted by Westlo

Not to mention I'm pretty sure that anything they award a Grand Prize to they have to animate... considering their output this isn't a trivial thing to give away.

Which is why it's puzzling to me why KyoAni is even bothering with this annual competition.

Yes, they're very production constrained.

These competitions are something that might make some sense for a very large studio like Sunrise or JC Staff, but it's hard for me to see how this makes sense for KyoAni (unless it's just a cynical way for them to gain added publicity...).

ultimatemegax · 2012-04-28, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Westlo

It's not like this is a KyoAni only thing... required reading...

Not to mention I'm pretty sure that anything they award a Grand Prize to they have to animate... considering their output this isn't a trivial thing to give away.

It's not mentioned in the outline that they will animate any Grand Prize winner this year. They simply state that a Grand Prize or Encouragement Award winner would be published through their publishing division.

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Which is why it's puzzling to me why KyoAni is even bothering with this annual competition.

Yes, they're very production constrained.

These competitions are something that might make some sense for a very large studio like Sunrise or JC Staff, but it's hard for me to see how this makes sense for KyoAni (unless it's just a cynical way for them to gain added publicity...).

KyoAni is looking to broaden their studio beyond animation. These contests are designed to obtain manuscripts they could print and sell through their publishing division, KA Esuma. If there's a work the staff greatly like, then it'll be animated like Chuunibyou is, but these submissions were not designed so they would animate more works.

Dextro · 2012-04-28, 16:09

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Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

Hyouka, the first novel of the Kotenbu series, was first published in 2001. KyoAni has only been involved in it for the past year or so depending on the planning for this anime adaptation.

The title you are thinking of is the light novel series Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai, which was an honorable mention in the 2009 light novel category.

DOH! Mea Culpa. For some reason my brain just went full on idiot mode there.

Morisato · 2012-04-30, 20:28

So much Haruhi material and Little Busters... and KyoAni decides not to milk the fanbases of those series.

Instead they adapt things like Nichijou which granted is pretty funny... but a financial failure.

Looks like they are set to repeat their mistake... well at least the character designs for Hyouka are K-ON inspired. Might pull in the moe crowd.

germanturkey · 2012-05-02, 19:56

so, i think its crazy that The Second Raid aired in 2005. jesus i'm getting old.

brocko · 2012-05-03, 07:56

Does anyone know whether the KyoAni staff are big FMP fans? To me that seems to be the only shot that the series has right now to get animated. I'd be inclined to think so, since they did that Tessa OVA and Shoji Gatoh seems to have good relations with the studio, doing script work for them on numerous occasions.

Business-wise FMP doesn't make much sense imo, especially now that the novel has ended and is on it's way towards being old hat. Not much point in pushing the sales of a waning franchise considering that previous sales have been slightly above modest at best. There are better chances of hitting big with something new and fresher.

If there was going to be another FMP anime, it'd largely have to be out of love for the series imo. The staff would need to love it to the point where they'd make it happen regardless of anything else.

Ithekro · 2012-05-03, 14:52

Well Studio DEEN just did a Full Metal Panic reference in a recent episode of Kore wa zombie desu ka

rulfo · 2012-05-04, 01:33

This is coming from their own budget.

Why throw in cash to something not good? At least they're being smarter than Gonzo. IIRC Gonzo went into a financial crisis by handling badly a very similar situation like this. It's bad enough that the series flops, it got worse since IIRC majority of the funding came from them.

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Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	I can see why Kyoto Animation didn't want to deal with Little Busters though.. like Clannad it will require a lot of episodes to get right. 2007 October - Clannad Start 2008 March - Clannad End 2008 September- Lucky Star OVA 2008 October - Clannad AS Start 2009 Jan - Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai Start 2009 March - Sora o Miageru Shoujo no Hitomi ni Utsuru Sekai End 2009 March - Clannad AS End Munto was also only 9 episodes long and IIRC the first 6 were just the material from the OVAs... so over an 18 month period they only did Clannad apart from 1 Lucky Star OVA and 3 Episodes of Munto. Little Busters would require a similar investment of manpower and time.. I don't think Kyoto Animation were interesting in doing that again... AIR was just 1 cour + and OVA later on, Kanon 2006 was just two cours and than finished... Clannad was an 18 month investment.

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Morisato Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	So much Haruhi material and Little Busters... and KyoAni decides not to milk the fanbases of those series. Instead they adapt things like Nichijou which granted is pretty funny... but a financial failure. Looks like they are set to repeat their mistake... well at least the character designs for Hyouka are K-ON inspired. Might pull in the moe crowd.

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brocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ¯\(º_o)/¯	Does anyone know whether the KyoAni staff are big FMP fans? To me that seems to be the only shot that the series has right now to get animated. I'd be inclined to think so, since they did that Tessa OVA and Shoji Gatoh seems to have good relations with the studio, doing script work for them on numerous occasions. Business-wise FMP doesn't make much sense imo, especially now that the novel has ended and is on it's way towards being old hat. Not much point in pushing the sales of a waning franchise considering that previous sales have been slightly above modest at best. There are better chances of hitting big with something new and fresher. If there was going to be another FMP anime, it'd largely have to be out of love for the series imo. The staff would need to love it to the point where they'd make it happen regardless of anything else. __________________ http://www.freerice.com/ - For each word you get right, 10 grains of rice is donated through the UN to help end world hunger.

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rulfo Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	This is coming from their own budget. Why throw in cash to something not good? At least they're being smarter than Gonzo. IIRC Gonzo went into a financial crisis by handling badly a very similar situation like this. It's bad enough that the series flops, it got worse since IIRC majority of the funding came from them.