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Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-19, 15:26

This collection averages out to $10 a game. It's more for collection purists and hardcore followers than anything. $50 retail price is reasonable for the whole package we're getting.

kenjiharima · 2013-05-19, 19:34

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Originally Posted by Dextro

While I mostly agree with you I believe that the "snake eater" version of MGS3 is probably the same as the one on the previous HD Collection and that one had most of the extras aside from the ones that depended on the now disabled online features.

There was also talk of the collection containing two graphic novels. I personally own the first Digital Graphic Novel for the PSP but I thought that the second one had been cancelled.

It's still a bad deal anyway. I would only consider it if they managed to throw in the Twim Snakes remake for the gamecube.

I see no wonder they're not porting that MGS3 version.

I also have the first graphic novel on the PSP, I didn't know there is a second one.

I agree I was waiting for Twin Snakes, but I guess Konami remained loyal to the PS franchise which is the canon MG series.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-20, 09:14

This collection is entirely canonical, which explains why Portable Ops didn't make the cut. Konami clearly wants to feed the fans a bone in the meantime while waiting for MGS5. And they know this collection will sell like hotcakes (or at least they're anticipating that). It's all about good business strategy.

Haigon · 2013-05-25, 07:40

PO and TS aren't in the Legacy Collection because they aren't "A Hideo Kojima game" (i.e. directed by Kojima).

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

This collection is entirely canonical, which explains why Portable Ops didn't make the cut. Konami clearly wants to feed the fans a bone in the meantime while waiting for MGS5. And they know this collection will sell like hotcakes (or at least they're anticipating that). It's all about good business strategy.

Portable Ops not canonical?

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-25, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Haigon

Portable Ops not canonical?

Apparently it's not. Kojima nor Konami never said anything about PO being canon.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-25, 14:40

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

Apparently it's not. Kojima nor Konami never said anything about PO being canon.

They do mention the events PO in Peace Walker for five seconds I believe. Kazuhira tells Big Boss that they can finally "leave all the crap in San Hieronymo behind." I guess there is a deeper meaning to that. Kojima was everything but subtle in Peace Walker just like when Kaz said "Kojima is God."

Dextro · 2013-05-25, 16:01

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

They do mention the events PO in Peace Walker for five seconds I believe. Kazuhira tells Big Boss that they can finally "leave all the crap in San Hieronymo behind." I guess there is a deeper meaning to that. Kojima was everything but subtle in Peace Walker just like when Kaz said "Kojima is God."

I also thought that the events of PO were in that MGS Encyclopaedia "app" they released for the PS3.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-25, 16:33

I never played PO so I don't know all the details regarding it. Despite what you guys say, however, it's still not considered canon.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-25, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

I never played PO so I don't know all the details regarding it. Despite what you guys say, however, it's still not considered canon.

Why? Has Kojima ever said it was not canon?

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-25, 19:31

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Why? Has Kojima ever said it was not canon?

I'm not sure exactly. I would have to go dig around for that. But it's not acknowledged as canon by the fanbase. Why would they not acknowledge it as canon if it is canon?

SilverSyko · 2013-05-25, 20:00

Considering it does explain how Zero and others managed to obtain the funding for organizing The Patriots, I'd don't see any reason to not consider Portable Ops canon either.

The only reason some people believe it isn't is because Kojima was never the director of that game.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2013-05-25, 20:09

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Originally Posted by SilverSyko

The only reason some people believe it isn't is because Kojima was never the director of that game.

Then that certainly explains things. Perhaps it could be argued that it's semi-canon.

kenjiharima · 2013-05-25, 21:20

The only thing canon in PO I think is BigBoss and young Col. working together in Fox and Bigboss saves Eva they see each other again and he recruits Ocelot. This probably happened before he formed MSF.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-26, 20:11

Another analysis about the whole David Hayter controversy. This dude talks pretty good and it's funny seeing trying to understand Kojima. Admit, Kojima is the master of confusions. XD

kenjiharima · 2013-05-26, 20:52

Don't forget to sign the petition

https://www.change.org/petitions/koj...snake-in-mgs-v

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-26, 22:25

I've just signed it. Does it tell if it was successful? I did not get a notice after clicking Sign.

kenjiharima · 2013-05-26, 22:27

You'll get a green prompt with the numbers supporting the petition and a thank you, currently there are 10,000+ people supporting this petition. Hope Konami and Kojima would listen to the fans.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-26, 22:36

Raiden, I mean Quinton Flynn also knows about this and wished for his return.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rk35g5

kenjiharima · 2013-05-28, 18:00

Kojima tweeted

https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/...98253029924864

Details on Yone

YouTube

https://youtu.be/wxBWkFH-8x8

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Mad Pierrot · 2013-05-30, 10:52

From Koji's twitter
Question Gene(MGS1)->Meme(MGS2)->Scene(MGS3)->Sense(MGS4)->Peace(MGS PW)->???e（MGSV）

Many of you answered "LOVE" but it's not the answer. From my editing room. pic.twitter.com/PcGF51K1g8

2013-05-19, 15:26	Link #261
Blackbeard D. Kuma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	This collection averages out to $10 a game. It's more for collection purists and hardcore followers than anything. $50 retail price is reasonable for the whole package we're getting. __________________ Speed is weight. Have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?

2013-05-20, 09:14	Link #263
Blackbeard D. Kuma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	This collection is entirely canonical, which explains why Portable Ops didn't make the cut. Konami clearly wants to feed the fans a bone in the meantime while waiting for MGS5. And they know this collection will sell like hotcakes (or at least they're anticipating that). It's all about good business strategy. __________________ Speed is weight. Have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?

2013-05-25, 16:33	Link #268
Blackbeard D. Kuma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	I never played PO so I don't know all the details regarding it. Despite what you guys say, however, it's still not considered canon. __________________ Speed is weight. Have you ever been kicked at the speed of light?

2013-05-25, 20:00	Link #271
SilverSyko Okuyasu the Bird Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Age: 32	Considering it does explain how Zero and others managed to obtain the funding for organizing The Patriots, I'd don't see any reason to not consider Portable Ops canon either. The only reason some people believe it isn't is because Kojima was never the director of that game. __________________

2013-05-25, 21:20	Link #273
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	The only thing canon in PO I think is BigBoss and young Col. working together in Fox and Bigboss saves Eva they see each other again and he recruits Ocelot. This probably happened before he formed MSF. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-05-26, 20:11	Link #274
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Another analysis about the whole David Hayter controversy. This dude talks pretty good and it's funny seeing trying to understand Kojima. Admit, Kojima is the master of confusions. XD <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/FD4XNzBvGaU">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2013-05-26, 20:52	Link #275
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Don't forget to sign the petition https://www.change.org/petitions/koj...snake-in-mgs-v __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-05-26, 22:25	Link #276
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	I've just signed it. Does it tell if it was successful? I did not get a notice after clicking Sign.

2013-05-26, 22:27	Link #277
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	You'll get a green prompt with the numbers supporting the petition and a thank you, currently there are 10,000+ people supporting this petition. Hope Konami and Kojima would listen to the fans. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-05-26, 22:36	Link #278
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Raiden, I mean Quinton Flynn also knows about this and wished for his return. http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rk35g5

2013-05-28, 18:00	Link #279
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Kojima tweeted https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/...98253029924864 Details on Yone YouTube https://youtu.be/wxBWkFH-8x8 Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2013-05-30, 10:52	Link #280
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	From Koji's twitter Question Gene(MGS1)->Meme(MGS2)->Scene(MGS3)->Sense(MGS4)->Peace(MGS PW)->???e（MGSV） Many of you answered "LOVE" but it's not the answer. From my editing room. pic.twitter.com/PcGF51K1g8