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2013-01-18, 16:07 | Link #902 |
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Why do I feel that "when I get back" he said is gonna be like, close to endless waiting? The preview for episode 4 didn't lift my spirits. Sad Maou=Sad Franky. Also, listen to head maid you two, you have to bone to save the world!, well not really, BUT HURRY AND GET TO IT ALREADY!
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2013-01-18, 16:09 | Link #903 | ||
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2013-01-18, 16:24 | Link #904 |
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His role in the story is to be the idiot who needs everything explained to him. This is a very important role. Otherwise it'd just be Maou talking to herself all the time. And now that he's served his role in introducing the story, he disappears to the Demon World on a long-term quest so we don't have to watch them interact anymore. Which incidentally also gives the writers a chance to show us what the Demon World is like, while still from the perspective of someone who knows nothing.
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2013-01-18, 16:38 | Link #905 | |
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2013-01-18, 16:49 | Link #907 | |
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2013-01-18, 17:03 | Link #908 | ||
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2013-01-18, 17:07 | Link #910 | |
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I mean, how can you know asset management when you don't even have any?
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2013-01-18, 17:11 | Link #911 | ||
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I really liked the (manga) contrast between the reactions of Hero and Knight when they had the potato explained to them. It showed the Female Knight was, unlike the hero, quite book smart. At least, she immediately caught the implications of the potato's yield. |
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2013-01-18, 17:23 | Link #912 | ||
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2013-01-18, 17:25 | Link #913 |
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Still going to take some time for me to get used to everyone being called by a title instead of an actual name.
The show doesn't fail to keep me glued to the screen despite the lack action sequences, sudden revelations (until now!) and other gimmicks. The plot's just that appealing to me. It's no Spice&Wolf, but it's not a bad piece of entertainment either. But for the Demon King's secret weapon to be... potatoes. Well, that caught me off guard. Ahhhh I should've known better! Kind of sad that our hero's off on a quest alongside his brand new evil armor. I liked his interactions with the king. |
2013-01-18, 17:35 | Link #914 | |
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This is kind of obviously due to their different lifestyles though. Female Knight is from a Church Order that focuses primarily on agriculture and educational help to villages. Hero doesn't have that kind of background.
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2013-01-18, 18:08 | Link #915 |
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Even though this is usually the type of show I love, I don't find the story very engaging so far. Maybe this is because the characters are so depersonalized to the point they don't even have names? Characters are very important to me. So far, all of them seem to be little more than walking plot devices.
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2013-01-18, 18:12 | Link #916 | |
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Hero looks more like a commoner, even though I don't think he was, quite. (There was that scene in the anime where he, as a child, is at a gathering of nobles. Maybe he was destined from birth to be the hero?) But he never paid attention to anything that wasn't about, well, hero-ing. Not until he met Demon Queen. |
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2013-01-18, 18:45 | Link #917 | |
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1. It allows the story to present common misconceptions, because Hari is a neophyte, though an intelligent one. 2. It interrupts the exposition, so it's not one character droning on and on. We can apply this model to a theoretical concept of Maoyu. Let's suppose that instead of the Hero, the Demon King's partnership is with the Knight. The Knight is a reasonably intelligent and reasonably high ranking official of a highly influential organization in the human world. Her expertise can include political maneuvering in the human world. This would divide the world building between the Demon King and the Knight to have one present the end solution and the other to present the method of implementing the solution. Compared to the set up now, it would have have a few advantages: 1. It removes the need for an idiot to draw out the exposition, because each partner is presenting a piece of the solution. 2. It avoids building up a superman who has the solutions to everything, because one uses the expertise of the other for the solution. 3. It gives us delicious, delicious yuri. But that doesn't mean the current setup is unacceptable. Famous, well-receive, and enduring stories such as Sherlock Holmes and Looking Backward use the "idiot" figure to draw out exposition. If you examine some of the famous utopian/dystopian stories--Looking Backward, The Sleeper Wakes, etc--, you'll see that this technique is pretty common for world building stories. It does, however, diminish the importance and perception of the "idiot," as seen in the criticisms against the Hero in this thread and the tendency to make Watson a bumbler.
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2013-01-18, 19:20 | Link #918 | |
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. . .this thread just got SERIOUS! on another note, its too bad that the creators are pandering again - the whole part about the fact that the girl has to be aggressive to a VIRGIN. Totally reeks of Otaku wish fulfillment. as 1) no MAN with a working unit would EVER act like he's acting (unless he likes men) and 2) no woman would constantly pursue a man that unless: she was like 14, in high school, and never had a man before (she's not 14 and not in highschool) I can totally see how people can, are, and will get frustrated with the hero dude. . .especially after this episode. I really wish this troupe would disappear in anime. . .but normal people arent the targeted demographic, so we just gotta deal with it lol |
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2013-01-18, 19:25 | Link #919 |
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*sigh*
I'm sorry, but if I said that I'm happy with the anime conversion, I'd be lying. Lord knows that I want to love the show, and I was tremendously looking forward to it. But in order to explain why, I need to do something I tend to criticize when others do it: By comparing it to my own prior expectations and lamenting that it doesn't match them - and not by taking the show at face value, as-is. Still, I feel I have to. For me, the reference MaoYuu is the Ishida version, which I love to pieces. I recognize that this interpretation is only one of many possible, but this is where I'm coming from. Compared to it, I feel that the anime is inferior in pretty much every single aspect which it changed. - The entire quirky humor is missing. The anime is taking itself way too seriously, and it is almost completely devoid of the little funny banter between the characters. Boring. - Massive reinterpretation of my second favorite character in the show: Female Knight. In both versions she has a short fuse, and she can go into crusader mode easily. But in the Ishida version, this is tempered by kindness, genuine smiles and a sense of humor. Her anime version is an insufferable Saber-II clone slapping the Hero instead of cutely yelling at him, and mean-spiritedly threatening the Demon Queen over Hero instead of the ribbing from the manga. It completely kills her charm (again, way too serious) - Hero in the anime is a doormat. In the manga, he was trying to escape, while in ep2 he was clearly moving to a consentual kiss. In the anime, their relationship is "sweeter", which isn't necessarily worse, but it's only one more aspect where the show offers less tension. - Demon Queen only gets flustered in romance things, and is in perfect control otherwise. In the manga she's going through much more (cute and funny) panicky self-doubts. I really miss those. - I consider the art clearly inferior to the manga. But okay, this can be attributed to personal preference. In this aspect, it also doesn't help to have almost all names changed from what I got used to. Demon King, Knight, Mage, Alliance... "these aren't the droids you've been looking for". So I'm sorry, but I can't join the chorus of happiness. This interpretation isn't necessarily bad, but it's much less funny, much less lively-intense and taking itself way too seriously to really convince me. In my most humble opinion, it's been done better before. MUCH better. |
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