The Novel and Manga of Haruhi Suzumiya

[RRW]

i wonder what is 10 Super Panorama Cover will be (if they make it)

[Javiersansano]

Even if they have not been released, have the las two volumes been already licenced in the US, and therefore, it is ilegal for anyone to translate them into english?

But if they are licenced, it means that a english release should come out quickly, and for those who think it is worthy (which would mean, everybody), can buy it online?

[keri]

Originally Posted by Javiersansano

Even if they have not been released, have the las two volumes been already licenced in the US, and therefore, it is ilegal for anyone to translate them into english?

But if they are licenced, it means that a english release should come out quickly, and for those who think it is worthy (which would mean, everybody), can buy it online?

Even if it is licensed, we won't see an English edition for a couple years. #5 is coming out this summer, #6 in the winter, #7 in the summer of 2012, #18 in winter of 2012, #9 in summer of 2013, and #10 (this new one) in winter of 2013, if they continue with the 5-7 month delay between volumes in order to keep the market from oversaturating.

[Javiersansano]

Originally Posted by keri

Even if it is licensed, we won't see an English edition for a couple years. #5 is coming out this summer, #6 in the winter, #7 in the summer of 2012, #18 in winter of 2012, #9 in summer of 2013, and #10 (this new one) in winter of 2013, if they continue with the 5-7 month delay between volumes in order to keep the market from oversaturating.

then, is it ilegal for any group to translate these two last volumes when they come out, or not?

[Gamer_2k4]

Originally Posted by keri

#18 in winter of 2012

Ooh, looks like America is ahead of the game on this one.

[RRW]

Originally Posted by Javiersansano

then, is it ilegal for any group to translate these two last volumes when they come out, or not?

well its illegal to fan translated haruhi novel regardless its been release on state or not

[Javiersansano]

and the reason is because it has been licenced before the release, right?

[larethian]

there are some grey areas which are complicated to explain. and I'm not qualified enough in law to do so. but if you're hoping for B-T to take it up, we've discussed it before and it's highly unlikely we'll waste time to put up something which will be taken down in time because it Will get licensed eventually.

[ijuinkun]

Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

The specialty sites for Surprise have been updated for both Alpha and Beta. Both have changed the fourth "public commitment" and added two more.

Alpha:
4: Finally, I'll be making my circuit debut! Everyone come assist me!

Just to clarify for those who may not already know, this is "circuit" as in "car racing circuit".

[Ypocaramel]

It would be quite complicated legally. The company authorized to do the English translation is probably based in the US, fan translators are based everywhere, and the laws are a bit different everywhere too (e.g. in the US they have a 'fair use' defense against copyright infringment, in Hong Kong we don't, at least not in the same way as the US).

[larethian]

fair use is not omnipotent, and its extent is often misunderstood. furthermore, it strictly does NOT apply to licensed series, since that will blatantly violate the fourth factor of analysis, "the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work". and volume 10 will definitely get licensed, so it's a waste of effort to work on it.

[Ithekro]

It is all in the time and patience factor I suppose.

[ultimatemegax]

Mantan Web is reporting that the reservation total for the First Press Limited Edition of The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (Former) (Latter) has reached 513,000. It's a new record for reservations in Japan for a first press of a light novel.

For reference, the total sold for New Testament: A Certain Magical Index had reached just under 180,000 for 4 weeks when it ranked 3 weeks ago.

Also, the entire series has now had over 8 million copies in Japan printed of the light novels and 16.5 million copies worldwide combining novels and the manga.

[Game8910]

oh boy here we go...

[Ithekro]

The outcome of this will be entertaining in a year or so.

[Roger Rambo]

Wow. I knew it was popular, but didn't realize how much.

[Javiersansano]

Not for anything, haruhi's anime got the first place of anime ranking in japan in its premiere year

[ultimatemegax]

Kadokawa's specialty site was updated today with the information about the first press. They also uploaded an image of the cover designs. While we can't read anything from the summaries, it does confirm one thing: The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (Latter) is indeed Volume 11 and not 10b.

Edit: Actually, Kadokawa's site has updated with descriptions from the common edition versions. I'll do my best to translate the summaries and put them under a spoiler bar:

Spoiler:

The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (Former):
Nagato is sick?! With the cause being the girl from the alternative alien faction and the SOS Brigade taking a pause it seems like I can acknowledge those guys as an enemy. Yare yare, it might be a misunderstanding. The real person I should be mad at is me for my own irresponsible actions?!

The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya (Latter):
There's been a freshman who has broken through the SOS Brigade enrollment examinations Haruhi put out. It's so nice to be able to push all the busy work to someone else now. But something's bothering me: why haven't I heard from Sasaki since that meeting?

[Game8910]

Spoiler for about the summary:

so we are confirmed a new brigade member!? thats actually quite the breaking news if true ('sup slider)

[Roger Rambo]

Seems that this would call for some character illustrations.