True Tears - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[Joachim]

im crossing my finger to my hiromi x shin prediction (which is a lil bit wavering when i watch this episode, like its all going on direction of noe x shin)

@usagijen: what if something like this happen in episode 13

Spoiler:

shin realize that noe is the one that make him able to realize his dream, thank her, but then also apologize to her that although she is the one that make him realize his dream, he has other girl that he care more than her *hiromi* , now that would made one hell of OMGWTFBBQ for me and made me cheers like kimikiss ending, or it goes the way as your prediction and make me go *NOOOOOO* anyway no hard feelings, its just we hope for different ending thats all

[Stretch5920]

No one seems to be mentioning that Shin rewrote the ending to his story this ep, since he didn't like the Jibeta tries to fly and dies ending.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Joachim

what if something like this happen in episode 13

Spoiler:

shin realize that noe is the one that make him able to realize his dream, thank her, but then also apologize to her that although she is the one that make him realize his dream, he has other girl that he care more than her *hiromi* , now that would made one hell of OMGWTFBBQ for me

For reference, Episode 1:

Spoiler for Shinichirou in Episode 1:

In my mind, you were always crying.
I've wanted to wipe away your tears.
But, I've never known what it was to wipe those tears from your soft cheeks.

Somewhere, there's an angel.
It'd be nice if that angel could gather your tears
And, with those tears, make a necklace to place around a tree.

The tree of tears keeps shining and shining...

What's Shinichirou's dream? What was Noe's role in helping him fulfill that dream? So, where do Shinichirou's feelings truly lie? Why, then, did he need to go see Noe?

If you ask me, at least, there's nothing OMGWTFBBQ about it.

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

No one seems to be mentioning that Shin rewrote the ending to his story this ep, since he didn't like the Jibeta tries to fly and dies ending.

Irony, foreshadowing, or both? You decide! But seriously, it was pretty clear he was going to re-write the ending after last episode, since even he thought that ending was bad. It didn't represent his true feelings.

[Sailor Enlil]

Well I have a few thoughts on this

Spoiler:

Definitely it's going to be very hard with Noe, assuming she survives the fall (odds of someone her age surviving that are really on the edge - how tall was that tree? Last anime character known to survive that was Kanon's Ayu, and it put her in a coma for several years!). And if she does survive one of these two would happen:
1. Shin x Noe ending, but a very tragic one, especially if it ends up into a Kanon situation (i.e. Noe falls into a coma); or at least a hard life for them if say Noe becomes crippled and Shin decides to play nurse-maid.
2. Shin x Hiromi ending, where Noe (if she regains consciousness and her state of mind) tells Shin to let go of her and find happiness with Hiromi.

Of course if Noe doesn't survive, Shin would either wallow in mourning for Noe, or let go of her and go back to Hiromi (but I'm sincerely hoping it won't come to this).

And with Noe herself visually absent in the preview, it's all in the air.

Then there can be a twist - suppose Noe fell on top of a pile of snow thick enough to cushion her fall (the thud is a generic kind; we don't know if it was a hard or soft impact), then a happy Shin x Noe ending would be possible.

[ani_d]

Originally Posted by Stretch5920

No one seems to be mentioning that Shin rewrote the ending to his story this ep, since he didn't like the Jibeta tries to fly and dies ending.

I forgot to mention that. You're right. Well, it was obvious Shin would change it. Jibeta dies, and Raigomaru finds out that he's just an ordinary meek chicken (Shin's just an ordinary harem character). The picturebook ended so bland and awkwardly.

I feel kind of silly for not accepting this sooner, but if Raigomaru's flight represents Shin being able to love Noe---then I guess ShinxNoe is sealed judging from

Spoiler for ep13:

Raigomaru's flight in this episode and Shin running over to Noe.

It makes sense to me after all, between the picturebook and Hiromi's drama, I feel the show focuses more on the picturebook, concept of flight, and Raigomaru.

[Joachim]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

For reference, Episode 1:

Spoiler for Shinichirou in Episode 1:

In my mind, you were always crying.
I've wanted to wipe away your tears.
But, I've never known what it was to wipe those tears from your soft cheeks.

Somewhere, there's an angel.
It'd be nice if that angel could gather your tears
And, with those tears, make a necklace to place around a tree.

The tree of tears keeps shining and shining...

What's Shinichirou's dream? What was Noe's role in helping him fulfill that dream? So, where do Shinichirou's feelings truly lie? Why, then, did he need to go see Noe?

If you ask me, at least, there's nothing OMGWTFBBQ about it.

Irony, foreshadowing, or both? You decide! But seriously, it was pretty clear he was going to re-write the ending after last episode, since even he thought that ending was bad. It didn't represent his true feelings.

actually it is a positive OMGWTFBBQ, made me choke upside down in happiness, if you catch it in other way around then its not

[War_Lord]

Spoiler for Thoughts for 12:

I guess a Shin x Noe or Shin x Hiromi ending depends on whether Shin has developed true feelings for Noe or just feels guilty about leading her on. If he does have feelings for Noe, then I consider Hiromi and Jun's tear shedding in this episode to be ominous. I hope that Noe and Shin's true tears won't be based on sadness, but rather happiness (Whether they get together or not).

On a side note, I knew from the beginning Jun had a thing for Noe, I just expected a random surprise kiss. But of course, Noe is too perceptive to get caught off guard like that. Bless her heart, lol.

[zAKai]

Spoiler for Hrm....:

Shin'ichiro is going to end up with Miyokichi.

Damn Korean drama-esque anime series!

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by ani_d

I forgot to mention that. You're right. Well, it was obvious Shin would change it. Jibeta dies, and Raigomaru finds out that he's just an ordinary meek chicken (Shin's just an ordinary harem character). The picturebook ended so bland and awkwardly.

I feel kind of silly for not accepting this sooner, but if Raigomaru's flight represents Shin being able to love Noe---then I guess ShinxNoe is sealed judging from

Spoiler for ep13:

Raigomaru's flight in this episode and Shin running over to Noe.

It makes sense to me after all, between the picturebook and Hiromi's drama, I feel the show focuses more on the picturebook, concept of flight, and Raigomaru.

Wow. Thanks for clicking it into me (I am slow ).

Spoiler:

I hereby name Shin to be the holy prophet of the picture book! prediction rate of 100% chance success.

As much as he found it to be a lame ending to the story, it happened right in front of him. Oh the irony.

Anyway, what Shin will do now will depend on how seriously injured Noe turns out to be. The Jibeta in his book died, will Noe suffer the same fate? (remember...100% prediction rate ).

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by Joachim

can i have nobuse and aiko as the male and female lead now? my respect to nobuse (call him a loser or what, but he is the one who didn't stray from the one he loved) >>>> my respect to shin (the good guy, bagh)

And if Nobuse was the lead you would more than likely be whining about him and wishing his best friend Shin was the lead Because everything that pissing you off about Shin comes with being the main character in a show like this. Aside from the lead of the Korean manhwa Unbalance X Unbalance (Jin ho ftw!) I really doubt their is a harem lead that people can generally like and not bitch about.

[vio5555]

Originally Posted by Westlo

And if Nobuse was the lead you would more than likely be whining about him and wishing his best friend Shin was the lead Because everything that pissing you off about Shin comes with being the main character in a show like this. Aside from the lead of the Korean manhwa Unbalance X Unbalance (Jin ho ftw!) I really doubt their is a harem lead that people can generally like and not bitch about.

I have to agree. The way the show is set up there never was a clean way for Shin to resolve the situation, whereas Nobuse only has a one way street with Ai. I know everyone would like to keep things simple since most people are fans of either ShinxHiromi or ShinxNoe, but this situation has been extremely messy ever since Shin misunderstood Hiromi's intent in answering her friend's question. Since the Shin/Jun pact that spawned shortly thereafter, Shin has had both Hiromi and Noe in his heart in a sense, so he does feel responsible for what both of them have been going through.

The problem is that he wasn't able to find a simple answer to what he said about doing things properly simply because the complex triangle defies a clean, simple resolution.

[SnEptUne]

Spoiler:

Yay, the story book is finally finished. I like how Shin finally realized how he never made decision for himself and how Noe talked about the pride of a chicken (theme: independence vs freedom). Too bad she went emo and thought she was a bird who can fly from jumping from high places. O_O

This episode is very fast paced and the execution is at least decent enough. The panning of the drawings of Noe and Hiromi was a little excessive though. I wonder if Hiromi will copy Noe and jumped from a roof? This series is getting better and better with all those emo.

Cry your heart out, Hiromi, after all the trouble, Shin is abandoning you again... Geez, she is playing victim again. What beautiful tears, they should be collected and sold on ebay! She can get indeed get carried away just because she is beautiful...

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

MUHAHAHAHAHA *dies laughing*

Spoiler:

Jun is a legend! Now what did I say about imouto complex!? And talk about the way he tried tosteal her kiss...sly brother indeed.

Now his motives all make sense, from the getting Shin to go out with Noe to even making that false contract with Hiromi. Ahh...it just feels awesome to see a prediction come true ^^

Second muahahahaha of the day for me is Shin's screwed up attitude. If someone where to call him a spoilt brat then I would agree. Shin has been losing point for me ever since a few eps back when he shows his flaws and now it is becoming more evident that he doesn't give a dam about anyone else other than himself.

He neglects Noe during Hiromi's "arc" and now he is doing the same to Hiromi for Noe. Basically, he is a male who can't multi-task, how about making things clear with Hiromi first before running off to Noe?

Ignorance like, he is begining to catch up the legendary makoto...

Ahh well...because of that Noe somehow made a miraculous comeback and Hiromi is in tears. Well done Shin...well done.

Noe tried to fly and went splat.

-points for being dumb If I wanted to let out my anger, I would have made the chicken fly instead ^^

Spoiler:

I agree completely. But if it is me, I wouldn't let the chicken fly either. How nice is it to experience flying from a tree... Too bad, I still need to live this life. I need to get old and die.

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep12:

CHICKEN SAVED! That was close...
But, isn't that great... The tissue box chicken started clucking!
It's ALIVEEEEE!

*twitch*
Nice, Noe. Just reply "Your tears are pretty/beautiful" to Hiromi after she talks to you.
Actually... She seriously lost it... Something's wrong when you start hearing voices from nowhere... and she jumped off a tree!

Hiromi... Poor her... Damn Shinichirou.
She looked a bit dangerous at times, but she doesn't seem like she'll do anything that bad.
Poor girl...

Two 1 ratings...
Not completely surprised, though.

Spoiler:

I actually think Shinichirou isn't too bad. You can't expect boys to do any better than him.

On the other hand, I think Noe is doing fine. When you have raised chicken as pet, you will know that even though it died, you can still hear it clucking at night. The same for my pet snake, the few days after it died, I kept hearing hissing. And I am pretty sure when family members died, one can still hear them talking in the next room even though the room is empty. It is really normal.

[ani_d]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Wow. Thanks for clicking it into me (I am slow ).

Spoiler:

I hereby name Shin to be the holy prophet of the picture book! prediction rate of 100% chance success.

As much as he found it to be a lame ending to the story, it happened right in front of him. Oh the irony.

Anyway, what Shin will do now will depend on how seriously injured Noe turns out to be. The Jibeta in his book died, will Noe suffer the same fate? (remember...100% prediction rate ).

You're welcome. ^__________^ Well, if you will reread my previous post, you will actually see that I added the word "if" somewhere in there.

Originally Posted by SnEptUne

Cry your heart out, Hiromi, after all the trouble, Shin is abandoning you again... Geez, she is playing victim again. What beautiful tears, they should be collected and sold on ebay! She can get indeed get carried away just because she is beautiful; in conclusion, pretty people can get away from being a needy kid.

LOL! The Mugiha dance was the hightlight of this show for me. For some reason, I think the deal about Hiromi and her "don't leave me behind" line are getting a little too overused. -_- I don't think it's just me. Here's to hoping she doesn't pull that pity party trick to get Shin's favor. If this show is intended to be a HiromixShin ending, they better do it properly.

I also noticed that they're making Hiromi look like the bad guy here when

Spoiler for ep13:

She told Noe that she and Shiniro already love each other and Noe should leave them alone. Usually, the girl who says this type of thing gets to lose at the end. lol

Kind of unexpected. I thought that was a bad move for her--plotwise.

[yupyupyup]

I hope for Hiromi ending. I have a huge fetish for long hair, and Noe is kinda crazy (stays with chicken, says strange things...) no matter how cute she is!

[D a m i e n]

nice episode.
they managed to keep the drama going i m glad to see that what i was hoping to see is happening, if from episode 10 to 13 it had been an easy ride for hiromixshin it would have suck.
weither it s a noexshin or hiromixshin ending i dont mind as long as it s well written.

jun was great this episode, i love the way he asked if he could kiss noe and when she didnt notice anything he waited holding his lips 2cm away from hers to make her understand what he mean by loving her. i might be giving him too much credit but it seem to me he never would have kissed her even though he was dying to do it. it was just a way to make her understand that he didnt only love her from a brotherly love.

anyway 1 eps left.
what will be this spring romance that has any chance of living up to TT's level?

[be0wulf]

After watching episode 12, all I can say is...

...

...

WOWWWWW.

When the heck did both Hiromi and Jun turn into the weepy type? Why has Shin's IQ been decreasing exponentially with each passing episode? What's with the weird musical inserts that are all like "insert BAAAAWWWWW here"? Why is Jun such a freaky child molester all of a sudden? WHEN DID THIS TURN INTO THE MUTANT LOVE-CHILD OF SCHOOL DAYS AND KOI KAZE?!?

This episode only served to remind me of how much of an "average" harem anime True Tears really is. Shin's feelings have been jumping back and forth throughout the series, and I guess next episode will be a "I suddenly had an epiphany" type of episode, where he'll finally realize where his true feelings lay. How disappointing.

I think the main problem with this series is the fact that it can't seem to decide where it's plot should go. It embarks on new plot lines every few episodes, and offer each of them either an inconclusive end, or a branching off into a new plot line. The first couple of episodes deal with Hiromi's parentage, Shin's feelings for Noe, and Aiko's whole fiasco. None of them have been concluded to any satisfaction. Somewhere in there, Shin finally realizes that he actually likes Hiromi, but after a kiss it went nowhere (and let's not forget the sandal episode, which is revisited in this episode and is supposedly the reason why Hiromi adores Shin so much). And now we have...incest-chan and a last episode rush ending. Even the storybook metaphor's getting a bit jumbled; I don't even know which chicken's supposed to represent who anymore.

One last thing. While I was and always has been a Noe fanboy, and while I certainly wouldn't mind a NoexShin ending, I feel that, after everything that's transpired throughout this series, such a pairing would almost be a let-down. It'll be like as if the fanbase decided which heroine the protagonist ended up with (I'm looking at you, Ichiho 100%). Episode 13 won't be able to redeem this series from mediocrity, but let us just hope that it doesn't leave us with a Myself;Yourself-esque cop-out ending.

p.s. I'm assuming Noe doesn't die from her rendition of the Wright brothers (judging by the landing noise). Because if she did...I'd have to journey to Japan and choke a bitch. Who's up for a Kimi ga Nozomu Eien coma-girl ending? =P

[arkxkra]

Spoiler for :

good episode, and one more to go.

omg, Hiromi going to lose base on this episdoe those behaviour of Shin. It really a unbelieable turning(maybe). I still confuse Shin like Hiromi or Noe by now, but from the fact Noe is higher chance. Last few episode Hiromi get higher chance, but now the chance get lower and lower, I better hope Aiko win for Shin (if have any chance >.<", too bad she already out long time ago).

The dance was really awesome, nice

Jun finally confess, lukily he still can stop the final kiss, if not omg o.O"...

At the end, Shin go to find Hiromi but leave Hiromi behind, Im sure Hiromi was really hurt. Hiromi said "dun leave me", too low voice i guess.

Don't tell me Noe is trying suicide?(fake) damn cliffhanger of this episode, one more to go, need to wait a week.

[Atheuz]

Spoiler:

If anything happened from Noe from that fall I'm gonna be pissed off because it's unrealistic that she'll fall into a coma from that, she did not land on her head, she landed on her chest unless she did some weird maneuvering the last second to make sure she landed on her head.

Noe fan anyway, I don't understand why people like Hiromi. So hoping for a Noe ending which seems more likely than in episode 11.

[Westlo]

Originally Posted by be0wulf

Why is Jun such a freaky child molester all of a sudden? WHEN DID THIS TURN INTO THE MUTANT LOVE-CHILD OF SCHOOL DAYS AND KOI KAZE?!?

If this incest action suddenly surprised you than you really shouldn't be calling things average when you can't even pick up something that's been obvious since Jun put the helmet on Noe and longingly wanted to caress her face. Everything he did since than was all for Noe, we didn't need Hiromi's words in episode 11 to figure that out, it was obvious.

I think the main problem with this series is the fact that it can't seem to decide where it's plot should go.

The series knows where it's going, it's the majority of the fan base who don't. I'm probably one of the top Hiromi and Shin shippers on AS but even to someone as biased as me I knew after 10 it would go back to Noe before a true resolution was reached.

p.s. I'm assuming Noe doesn't die from her rendition of the Wright brothers (judging by the landing noise). Because if she did...I'd have to journey to Japan and choke a bitch. Who's up for a Kimi ga Nozomu Eien coma-girl ending? =P

She's talking in the next episode preview.

[JCMS]

I can' she said that. Hiromi's one damn bitch

GO NOE!!!!!