2013-05-22, 13:42 | Link #361 | |
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But I plan on getting a 120hz monitor soon, and I bet my setup won't choke to reach +100fps. Of course I can say I have the best, at the moment
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2013-05-22, 13:47 | Link #362 | |
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My only problem is the lack of clarification. Is this going to be always on? What about used games? I hear conflicting reports from journalists that were able to attend the hands on session. However, I will defend to the death how stupid it sounds when people cry about the Xbox One not being a gaming system. It was a console reveal. It's going to continue having great games. If you liked the Xbox 360 buy the Xbox One. This was a showcase of how it's going to be different from the PS4. They also said repeatedly that they would announce, in depth, their lineup at E3. They probably should have handled it differently, but they shouldn't have to spell it out, "We. Will. Not. Be. Announcing. All. Our. Games. Today." I mean, hell, how can you not get excited when out of the seven games shown only two of them were from the referenced fifteen exclusives list? As a PS3 and Xbox 360 owner I don't understand why people have to pick sides. Yes, there's bad ports, but in general play a console that you're comfortable with and the system you want the exclusives for. Also, PC debates are stupid. While I love modding Skyrim I can't imagine gaming without Uncharted or Halo. Keep that trash out of here. |
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2013-05-22, 14:15 | Link #363 | |
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Hell, even Penny Arcade was disappointed with the XBox One reveal yesterday. And they tend to be staunch Microsoft supporters. http://www.penny-arcade.com/2013/05/22/ms-stuff |
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2013-05-22, 14:33 | Link #364 |
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It doesn't really matter because CoD/EA Sports will still sell the console like they did the XboX 360. All the multimedia features as well as the new kinect will probably make it a very appealing item to buy for families who only play games casually. Those 2 demographics wouldn't care about all the restrictions that the Xbox One has.
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As for the system itself, it has all these features that not long focuses on gaming and that's why people are saying that it isn't a gaming console anymore.
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2013-05-22, 14:44 | Link #367 | |
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The xbox one's function as a TV guide multitasker would have to be really appealing.
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2013-05-22, 14:48 | Link #368 | |
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And the reason why no one gives a shit about the new XBOX exclusives is if this is Microsoft's "strong response" to the PS4, they should have just waited until E3. I can tell you right now; if they pushed the press conference date back a month for THIS disappointing pile of failure, then things are not looking good for Microsoft in the next generation of console wars. And just because they said there was going to be 15 new exclusives doesn't mean they're going to be GOOD. I'm going to go ahead and estimate that 4-5 of them will be worth playing, tops. And I'm being pretty generous here, because I'm sure one of the new exclusives will be... you guessed it --- Halo 5. If they actually had anything good, they would have shown it and let it hype up between now and E3 to get people excited. No one with any idea of how marketing works would continue to keep something secret when it could promote a new product. (Then again, Microsoft isn't exactly showing its great wisdom and foresight with this announcement, so I wouldn't be surprised either way.) Also consider the fact that you're going to have to INSTALL games. Think of how fast your 500 GB harddrive on the XBOX One is going to fill up. Also don't forget things like save game files, DLCs, and various updates. In the end I'll vote with my wallet. If I buy a console it's going to be a PS4. Nothing about the new XBOX One interests me in the slightest.
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2013-05-22, 14:51 | Link #370 |
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http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS...mparison_Chart
For comparisons sake. I wonder how badly it will be affected running three OS at the same time and using Cloud. The One already has a lesser RAM than the PS4 so I can only imagine how this may affect things. Really hope it isn't a repeat of the PS3 vs 360 where games were made for the 360 and very few took advantage of PS3 being more powerful. |
2013-05-22, 14:54 | Link #371 | |
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(I'll also note that I think the live TV stuff is essentially a "control you cable box via your console via HDMI, if it supports control via HDMI" thing. Not particularly complicated, to be honest.) Surprised nobody has mentioned Anandtech analysis of the hardware that suggests this could have a third less GPU power than PS4. My guess is we see this become the "baseline" for which new games are developed, with the PS4 and higher end PCs getting some extra graphical features. For the technically inclined, Anandtech speculates GPU power will be about 1.23 TFlops, so not particularly high by PC standards (see Wikipedia's list of AMD graphics processors for where it falls. Though of course the console version will be much more optimized and when the SRAM cache on the APU is factored in, memory bandwidth actually looks pretty decent.
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2013-05-22, 14:57 | Link #372 |
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I bought a 360 about the same time they finally fixed the RROD issue to play the exclusive games it had. Exclusives that Microsoft paid dearly for early on in the generation to try and snatch the Japanese market. It failed and plenty of those exclusives ended up going multi-platform eventually.
Afterwards there was virtually no exclusive left for me and the 360 has been gathering dust while I bought a PS3 to play games (and not stare at an empty home screen since all those "value added" services are unsupported where I live). The last exclusive I bought for the bloody thing was Forza 4. Before that: Forza 3. Before that: Fable 2. As you can see, aside from Forza, Microsoft hasn't managed to net an exclusive that I would buy since 2008! From then all the games I either spent money on the PS3 or the PC. And to think I bought the 360 to play Eternal Sonata and Castle Crashers... Suits me right hum? PS: all this to point out one thing: Microsoft hasn't managed to show me that it cares about gamers. It cares about the big AAA CODs, Halos and Maddens but not much more.
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Those are: Used Game Fee and Subscription Service. If those are No and Free respectively, it's no contest. Secondary concerns would be Mandatory Game Installs and Storage. If we have mandatory installation, they better give us lots of storage. But if the PS4 is more in-line with the PS3 (i.e. free online subscriptions) than the XBOX One is with the XBOX 360, things are looking quite grim for Microsoft. I'm still not happy about zero backwards compatibility for either. It's like both Sony and Microsoft are TRYING to piss gamers off. They're certainly on their way to fully succeeding with flying colors. Well, at least Sony is at least attempting to hide their corporate greed. Microsoft isn't even bothering to make the attempt.
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2013-05-22, 15:02 | Link #374 | |
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2013-05-22, 15:03 | Link #375 | |
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I don't believe that will be the case this time around, since the CPU for the PS4 will be easier to work with (at least for Western Developers). |
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2013-05-22, 15:06 | Link #376 |
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I was wondering what they meant by impulse triggers on the new controller and this article explains them:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/...oller-hands-on For once the xbox one actually impresses me with something. Having individual rumble motors in the triggers could mean tactile feedback to things like road surface in driving games, or indication of where damage is coming from in shooters, and perhaps more.
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2013-05-22, 15:06 | Link #377 | |
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Why do I keep getting the feeling that roles have reversed? I used to feel that Microsoft actually cared about the hardcore gamers. Apparently that's no longer the case. I'm glad Sony is deciding to make the PS4 gamer-centric. If BOTH Sony and Microsoft pulled this crap, we the consumers would be screwed.
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2013-05-22, 15:08 | Link #378 | |
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2013-05-22, 15:14 | Link #379 | |
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It also gives a big middle finger to retailers. Gamestop primarily, plus any other retailer that sells games for that matter. A digital distribution model will only work if everyone else does it, too. Otherwise people that prefer buying stuff from retailers (again, used games because they're cheaper), will simply not buy the XBOX One.
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2013-05-22, 15:21 | Link #380 |
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Gamestop deserves a middle finger. They are the only people actually profiting from used game sales.
If Gamestop took a percentage off the top of used game sales and gave that to the developers I don't think we'd be seeing so many draconian runs on the First Sale Doctrine.
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