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Old 2007-05-22, 14:19   Link #301
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That fast?! No seriously I didn't expect to get taken that seriously. Alex's unique points is that he has a twin Unison, and we know that he appreciates the meaning of great power comes with greater responsibility, of which a certain Devil only just figured out. A bit of Escaflowne-ish inheritance with regards to the pendant, and Grandma Cagalli was a little surprise. How's Gramps Zala?
Well what can i say, I am know to take people seriously.^^ Escaflone-ish?? Eh did I make a reference subconsciously?? Seriously, because I didn't intend there to be one... could you elaborate on this reference for me? LOL o him he died a couple of years ago

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Maybe you were hurrying, but you seemed to have left out who is after him. Local government? As in Terran or some other world?
I did?? *goes back to read* Hrm Its in there it is just not that good.
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He began to explain that if he stayed that the local government would come looking for him because there had already been reports made due to the barrier being erected.
but thanks for pointing that out, I’ll go and clean that part up so that it makes sence.

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Oh he has a full list of all the Holy Velka Imperiallon repositories! I'm sure Saint Church would like to have a few words with him about it.
A word? I think they would like more than a Word with him. (I am reminded of a scene from slayers for some odd reason.)

*Alex walking down road*
Church clerk: Hay you! Are you Alexander Ivanov?
Alex: Yes, can I help you?
Church clerk: I come as a representative of the Saint Church. We would like a word with you about some information that you have.
Alex: Information?? *looks at the twins* O, S*** not this again. What information would I have that could be of interest to them. *mental communication* <Azura get ready with my armor, Setsuna prepare for Angelic flight as soon as my armor is up!>
Church clerk: *slightly confused by his reaction*Mr. Ivanov, Please come with me.
Alex: Umm, Sorry I cant right now.. I am on my way to a very important meeting.
Ryu: Eyes of the Angel
Church clerk: I am afraid that isn't an option right now.
Alex: *looks around* <lets see here 1, 2, 5, 14! D*** they sent 15 guys after me. WTH>
Church clerk: I Must Insist that you come with me.
Alex:Well its been fun but I really must be going... NOW *Armor set up, Angelic flight set up**takes off flying at full speed dodging way to many projectiles to count*

That something like what I would envision happening

Well it is not quiet a Full list but a list non the less.

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Just my suggestion, unless he is unregistered with TSAB I wouldn't recommend him using Old Velka. It's for canon-ness as during the StrikerS arc there are only 3 AVKs officially: Hayate, Acous and Carim. I was forced to upgrade Kha into NV because of that. I can see that Bronte was updated to Ryu, so I think is that the OS could've been written using the Velka Emulation D.E.V.I.C.E. Complex OS (SEED reference from my universe. Couldn't resist the temptation when you already have a mecha reference. ). Also, NV has been proven to be compatible with MC spells so it'll still be okay. No one stated that New Velka is weaker than AV, its just the style in which things are done that differ. But it's my $0.02, and it's your work, you might have a way to justify that.

As for your $0.02 it is accepted and greatly appreciated. Ya I guess that I can see the problem with him using Old Belka magic in the StrikerS arc. Here is what I was thinking when I made him a user of Old Belka magic. The only teachers he had when he began his magic training (just after leaving home) where Azura and Setsuna plus that aforementioned list of spells. So that is how he learned Old Belka.

I guess he still needs a lot of work ^^ any more impute would be happily accepted
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Old 2007-05-22, 15:58   Link #302
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Name: Captain Takamachi Georashi Keroko.
Alias: “Deathwing” Keroko.
Affiliation: TSAB Air Combat Division.
Military Rank: Captain.
Mage Rank: S
Call Sign: Rogue 1 or ‘leader’, Stars 5 since joining Riot Force 6
Age: 19
Birthday: 8th October
Gender: Female.

Hair: 9 years old: A single short tail on the right side of her head.
16 years old: A single short tail on the right side of her head, grown a bit longer.
19 years old: A single short tail on the right side of her head, grown a bit longer.

Keroko, 9 year old:
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Keroko, 19 years old:

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Personality: Keroko is more a listener then a speaker, generally content to just stay with the group and enjoy their company. Only when a subject of her interest comes up will she start joining the conversation, and you will have to exert some effort into shutting her up. She’s generally helpful, and will likely drop what she is doing if you ask for her help. When she does work she enjoys, she tends to get sucked into it much like her sister, losing most sense of time. She also has a sarcastic streak a mile wide, and an urge to argue to boot. She does, however, now when she has reached the limit, and will usually stop if the other(s) are becoming too annoyed. When angered by people not on her ‘friends list’, she will feel tempted to lash out at them. A side effect of the years of being exposed to Neltharion’s corrupted energies. She's very impulsive, blurting out things and acting before thinking about it twice, and while she has trained to not allow this to influence her work, it does still tend to create the occasional havoc in her personal life. It can sometimes appear to people unfamiliar with her that 'work-mode' Keroko and the regular Keroko are two different people

Magic type: Aspect/Velka mixture.

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Magic color: Blood red. Pitch black when channeling Neltharion’s energy.

History

Pre-Nanoha

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Nanoha

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Nanoha A’s

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A’s to StrikerS

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StrikerS

Barrier Jacket

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The full activation of Keroko’s barrier jacket is, coincidentally, the code of the old black aspect mages. Before they were driven mad, this code was designed to show their devotion to protect the lands and the skies.

Keroko closed her eyes as she focused on the small necklace in her hand. “We are the mages of the black aspect. Neltharion’s chosen. Guardians of the land and the sky. For every one of us that falls in battle…” her eyes snapped open “a thousand enemies shall die! Artherion! Set up!”

Barrier jacket modes

Standard form - Keroko’s barrier jacket exists of a pitch black undershirt covered by a long sleeved shirt with blood red linings, which stops about waist length. Short black pants are covered by a medium length open lack skirt with blood red linings. Black fingerless gloves cover her hands, and the set is finished with black shoes with red gems.

Ethereal Form - This form is automatically activated when Artherion’s Ethereal mode is activated. Keroko gains two plated wrist guards, reaching to about half her forearms. A diamond shaped hole appears in the back of her jacket, allowing room for the ethereal dragon wings that appear as a side effect of the seal release and the skirt gains several plated armor patches.

Interceptor Form: Gained after becoming the TSAB Supreme Air Force Interceptor, this form allows for extreme high-speed manouvers. It also has a slightly higher defensive grade then it's predececor, to compensate for Keroko's lack of skill in defensive spells. The basics are still the same, most noticably being the long sleeved black red lined shirt, but the pants have become full covering, gaining more red linings and the undershrt is now armored. The open skirt also gained armour plates as a standart issue.

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Device name: Artherion (Artherion Devastator since A’s).

Artherion’s stored mode materializes as the blade sides of the axe held together by a small bar, which is connected to a chain in order to keep it around like a necklace. He addressed Keroko with a respective and military ‘sir’. Since joining the TSAB, he always addressed Keroko with her military ranking, eventually coming to “captain”, which is her current rank. Since the installment of the Velka type cartridge system during the Yami no Sho incident, his full name has become “Artherion Devastator” though Keroko rarely uses his full name. The reloading of cartridges is very similar to a lee-enfield rifle, in that it forcefully ejects an empty clip of cartridges and easily enables the reloading of a new clip.

Artherion serves three purposes: The first is to give support in combat and spellcasting, just like any other device would do. The second is to seal off the corrupted energies of the black dragon aspect, preventing corruption and damage that would inevitably be caused by prolonged exposure. If the energies still flow through, then Arterion will filter them for use of more powerful spells, and will serve as a limiter for when the risk becomes too great.

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Axe form - A Dual bladed axe, broad at the top and thinner at the bottom, thinning out in straight lines and a blood red gem in the centre. This is the standard mode, which will appear after activation. Because Keroko is by no means an expert in melee combat, this is more of a ‘back of’ button to get adversaries in proper distance, and used to defend against ones that don’t. This form has no special attacks, but general attacks like Snipe Shooter and Ion Wave are possible in this form.

Firing mode - The dual blades of the axe turn around, making the thinner points now face upwards as a focuser. This is most used form of Artherion, as it opens a wide range of long-range attacks. Spells made possible in this form: Blast Lancer, Orbital Bombardment, Ion Blaster.

Ethereal mode - Artherion’s strongest mode, a third blade forms, and the first two lower themselves by a couple of degrees, forming a focusing triangle. This mode disengages the seals placed on the black dragon’s power, and enables the filter that will make Neltharion’s corrupted energies at least somewhat usable, thereby making Keroko’s strongest spells available. Keroko’s barrier jacket automatically switches to Ethereal form when Ethereal mode is activated. A side effect of the sudden flow of black energies is the appearance of two ethereal black dragon wings, which explains the mode’s name. Two cartridges are needed to enable Ethereal mode. Spells made possible in this form: Seismic Charge, Dragon Soul, Ion Cannon Breaker.

Spells


Defensie/Suportive:

“Forcefield” - Artherion’s programmed defensive spell, it surrounds Keroko in a red field of energy.

“Empowered Forcefield” - A more powerful version of forcefield, it also gains the additional ability to reflect weaker spells back to the caster, which makes it a risk to fire at Keroko when this spell is up.

“Scatter Shot” - Fires several bursts of magic. Keroko can also shatter the spheres, scattering them into many tiny magical particles into the air, which disrupt other magical abilities already active. When used like this, it is designed to break magical prisons, illusions, forcefields and bindings.

“Drive Move” - An instant movement speed, used to close or create short distances. Keroko has mastered the use of Drive Move in combination with Snipe Shoot and

“Hyperdrive” - A movement increase speed of great proportions. This move literally shoots Keroko forward in an aura of red energy, this spell is mostly used to withdraw, give chase or get to a scene as fast as possible. When activated, it is impossible to change the trajectory. The only way to change directions is to come to a full stop and repeat the move.

Offensive:

“Snipe Shooter” - A spell that shoots a single beam of magical energy, not very powerful, but quickly to cast and usable in all modes. A favorite attack when dogfighting due to the rapid fire rate.

“Ion Wave” – Keroko slashes with Artherion, sending a wave of energy at her opponent.

“Blast Lancer” - An attack that shoots several magic beams, which can then be controlled by Keroko. This is a close second in terms of most used spells, mostly due to the increased hit rate and the ability to control the shots after firing.

“Orbital Bombardment” - An enhanced version of Beam Lancer, this attack shoots a number of beams so great; it is akin to a bombardment from space. Control is somewhat disregarded but still present, even though it’s hardly necessary, since the chance she’ll miss is rather low.

“Ion Blaster” – A siege type single beam similar to Nanoha’s ‘Divine Buster.’ Though stronger then a Snipe Shooter, the longer casting time makes it one of the less popular spells in Keroko’s arsenal.

“Executor Rush” – Keroko’s single and only melee attack spell. This spell charges the tips of Artherion in shooting mode with magical energy, after which a combination of binds and Hyperdrive is used to literally ram into the enemy. Though the binds can be skipped, it is wise to do so, since the trajectory of the Hyperdrive cannot be altered after activation.

“Seismic Charge” - This spell shoots a small, but powerful burst of energy at the target. When the spell reaches its target (or by Keroko’s command) it will explode in a circular pattern, sending a shockwave in all directions.

“Dragon Soul” - A powerful wide area spell, based on the terrifying weapon that signified Neltharion’s betrayal, which gathers as much of his corrupted energies as it can before firing. A black magic circle appears underneath Keroko, while her wings spread out. Black energy can be seen cracking around Artherion while the attack charges. When fully charged, Keroko swings Artherion in a wide arc, unleashing a black wave of destruction. Though less powerful then her Ion Cannon Breaker, this attack can hit more targets due to its wide spread.

“Ion Cannon Breaker” - Keroko’s most powerful spell, and requires Ethereal mode to be active. This attack mixes both the black and corrupted energies of Neltharion and her own red magical energies. The result is a red magic circle that emits a black aura which appears underneath her feet, and an aura of the same red-black mixture appears around her body. The energy of that aura is concentrated between the three tips of Artherion, creating an orb of energy, seemingly held in place by red lightning crackling between the tips and the orb. Once charging is complete, the two combined energies lash forward in a single beam of pure power.

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Old 2007-05-22, 17:01   Link #303
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So, what you're saying is that he obtained Old Velka magic though less-then-official channels? Hmm, how about he knows some mid-childan spells, and became a registered TSAB mage with those, but never bothered to register the fact that he could use Old Velka? That means he's not a registered Old Velka user, but still an Old Velka user.
offical channels?? why would he use those

You know what that is a really good idea. I think if it is alright with you that I will run with that and see where it takes me. Thanks I will post revisions ASAP
thanks again ^^
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Old 2007-05-22, 17:03   Link #304
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offical channels?? why would he use those

You know what that is a really good idea. I think if it is alright with you that I will run with that and see where it takes me. Thanks I will post revisions ASAP
thanks again ^^
Methinks that if he ever uses Old Belka in the view of anyone in the TSAB (who knows what Old Belka looks like, or at least knows what New Belka doesn't look like), quite a bit of covering up might be in order.
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Methinks that if he ever uses Old Belka in the view of anyone in the TSAB (who knows what Old Belka looks like, or at least knows what New Belka doesn't look like), quite a bit of covering up might be in order.
Ya, seriously the amount of cover up needed would be astronomical. What I am thinking is that that he only uses that magic when He feels safe from being see by the wrong people (His allies lol) I mean it is ok if the target sees it becasue if they ever see that magic then they are about to get the beating of a lifetime, that and they will probably never live to tell anyone. here is an idea that I am working with just now to try and make it work in a different ways I just typed this out in like 2 min so it is kinda unrefined.

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that is just one idea to cover it up though I'm not sure if it works in the Nanoverse

Edit: Or I might Just remove Mid-Childa and go for Neo-Belka and Old-Belka. (might be easier to cover up then)
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Old 2007-05-22, 17:48   Link #306
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Okay! Now it's my turn! Here's a character I've been developing for a while now and hopefully you guys will like her and please post positive critics on her k? I'd like to know how and where I can improve her .

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I'll post the attack list sometime later .

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that is just one idea to cover it up though I'm not sure if it works in the Nanoverse

Edit: Or I might Just remove Mid-Childa and go for Neo-Belka and Old-Belka. (might be easier to cover up then)
We're not sure how magic circles work exactly in the Nanoha-verse, though. Specifically, whether new ones can be created personally.

Otherwise, we already have examples of New Belka, Old Belka, and Midchilda, even though I personally can't see much of a difference between New and Old Belka. However, I don't know how much study the average TSAB mage has given these, so they may be able to recognize them at a glance.

EDIT: @Fuyu no Sora: Holy- um, mind separating up that huge wall of text with some paragraph breaks?
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We're not sure how magic circles work exactly in the Nanoha-verse, though. Specifically, whether new ones can be created personally.

Otherwise, we already have examples of New Belka, Old Belka, and Midchilda, even though I personally can't see much of a difference between New and Old Belka. However, I don't know how much study the average TSAB mage has given these, so they may be able to recognize them at a glance.

EDIT: @Fuyu no Sora: Holy- um, mind separating up that huge wall of text with some paragraph breaks?
LOL. Sorry . Just edited the post
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We're not sure how magic circles work exactly in the Nanoha-verse, though. Specifically, whether new ones can be created personally.

Otherwise, we already have examples of New Belka, Old Belka, and Midchilda, even though I personally can't see much of a difference between New and Old Belka. However, I don't know how much study the average TSAB mage has given these, so they may be able to recognize them at a glance.

EDIT: @Fuyu no Sora: Holy- um, mind separating up that huge wall of text with some paragraph breaks?

Hrmm I guess then I should change him to Neo-Belkan just for concealment of his magic^^ Ok well that should be good He is will just be registered and a Neo Belkan multi-range combat mage. hows that sound??
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lol i just though of this, the combat monitoring system that the TSAB uses... if Hayate or anyone with the proper knowledge where to be watching Alex... o dang that could be bad..... I think i need to come up with a counter measure for that. *runs off to developer a observation scrambling barrier*
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Okay! Now it's my turn! Here's a character I've been developing for a while now and hopefully you guys will like her and please post positive critics on her k? I'd like to know how and where I can improve her .

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I'll post the attack list sometime later .
Wall of text crits you for 78653, you die.

Sorry, WoW forum flashbacks.

*Ahem* Well, I like the history... do I see possible a possible Project F subject there? Or perhaps a prototype, or a spin-off.

And amnesia... I must admit I have been toying with giving Keroko amnesia, but decided againts it. Good thing too, it wouldn't fit in my setting, but it fits great in yours.

Just one question, if she is having problems due to her health, how come she is ranked an S+ mage?
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lol i just though of this, the combat monitoring system that the TSAB uses... if Hayate or anyone with the proper knowledge where to be watching Alex... o dang that could be bad..... I think i need to come up with a counter measure for that. *runs off to developer a observation scrambling barrier*
If the scrambling is detected in anyway (even if just as scrambling), then there'll still be Questions Asked, chief of which is "why are you scrambling this?"

Might be an interesting look at privacy laws in the Nanoha-verse.
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Wall of text crits you for 78653, you die.

Sorry, WoW forum flashbacks.

*Ahem* Well, I like the history... do I see possible a possible Project F subject there? Or perhaps a prototype, or a spin-off.

And amnesia... I must admit I have been toying with giving Keroko amnesia, but decided againts it. Good thing too, it wouldn't fit in my setting, but it fits great in yours.

Just one question, if she is having problems due to her health, how come she is ranked an S+ mage?
Thank you . But as Chrono once said "Being a mage is much more than raw power." That applies here. Besides, it seems terrans who have magical talent happen to posses immense prowess in this domain, so I chose to play with that. And she only has problems with long range attacks. Being a Belka Knight, her specialty is mid and close combat, so........
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Wall of text crits you for 78653, you die.

Sorry, WoW forum flashbacks.
LOL *nearly falls out of chair laughing*

I don't know why but i cant stop laughing at this post.



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If the scrambling is detected in anyway (even if just as scrambling), then there'll still be Questions Asked, chief of which is "why are you scrambling this?"

Might be an interesting look at privacy laws in the Nanoha-verse.
Hrm Great now I have to come up with a booklet of excuses either that or take out the mobile unmanned observation cameras with "stray projectilies" if he is ever in a dire enough suitation to us an old belka spell.
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Hrm Great now I have to come up with a booklet of excuses either that or take out the mobile unmanned observation cameras with "stray projectilies" if he is ever in a dire enough suitation to us an old belka spell.
Again, too many "coincidental destructions" and people might get suspicious.

Basically, if one wants to keep something (like the fact that one knows Old Belka) hidden against an opponent with theoretically nearly limitless resources, one must be very, very clever at misdirection and crypto. (For an extreme view, Death Note is the obvious example, but I think that's a little too extreme.)
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Then again he IS the leader of a Tactical Strike squad so some secretism is required ^^ so he might be able to use that as an excuse.
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Again, too many "coincidental destructions" and people might get suspicious.

Basically, if one wants to keep something (like the fact that one knows Old Belka) hidden against an opponent with theoretically nearly limitless resources, one must be very, very clever at misdirection and crypto. (For an extreme view, Death Note is the obvious example, but I think that's a little too extreme.)
Yes I agree if it happened to often then no matter what he said it would be suspicious.

ANO..........I haven't seen death note.... *runs for cover*
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Yes I agree if it happened to often then no matter what he said it would be suspicious.

ANO..........I haven't seen death note.... *runs for cover*
You're suspicious. Um.......May I ask why?

I haven't seen all of Death Note either. *Also runs for cover*
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Yes I agree if it happened to often then no matter what he said it would be suspicious.

ANO..........I haven't seen death note.... *runs for cover*
Well, I figured that Death Note would be the most familiar practical example of keeping secrets for this forum.

I'd actually recommend Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon for, if not the actual methodology, then at least the mindset for crypto. (Although, weighing at about a thousand pages, it is not a light read.) The basic premise is: be paranoid, and assume that whoever's watching you is also paranoid.

Even so, I'd have to question why Hayate would want to keep his knowing Old Belka a secret (since, well, she taught him, so she obviously knows). Or the people in his squad.

Basically, I'm wondering: given that the series canon states otherwise, is it essential for Alex to know Old Belka, or is that removable from the character?
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You're suspicious. Um.......May I ask why?
Ummmm. No I'mm not... UU i have to go now my team need me........

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Well, I figured that Death Note would be the most familiar practical example of keeping secrets for this forum.

I'd actually recommend Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon for, if not the actual methodology, then at least the mindset for crypto. (Although, weighing at about a thousand pages, it is not a light read.) The basic premise is: be paranoid, and assume that whoever's watching you is also paranoid.

Even so, I'd have to question why Hayate would want to keep his knowing Old Belka a secret (since, well, she taught him, so she obviously knows). Or the people in his squad.

Basically, I'm wondering: given that the series canon states otherwise, is it essential for Alex to know Old Belka, or is that removable from the character?
I was actually planning on removing the trained by Hayate part to aid in the whole secretism bit. His squad.... (to be honest i haven tought that far yet. Since I had just recently decided that I would need to keep it a secret. )

Thank you for all of the thought you are putting into helping me develop Alex's stats


*sigh* Well it is a bit disappointing becasue I will have to change a lot of existing story, and remove a few key things form the "future chapters list" but It is removable and i guess that it would make things easier. Well i guess I will get to work rewriting his story and such to remove Old Belka from his current stats (I might find a way to hint that he posses the ability to use it but doesn't know it ^^ maybe)

EDIT: Though I dont think I will remove the spell list from Brontë's log ^^
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