2009-02-22, 19:17 | Link #821 |
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I won't repeat what others been saying since I mainly agree. Didn't like the fact that characters from season 1 took over the show. The newly introduced characters like Shinn and his gang went from MC's to enemies working for the antagonist without much debate aka being used by him. And of course Shinn wasn't an interesting character.
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2009-02-22, 19:20 | Link #822 | |
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Ep 13: Kira vs. Grunts. Obvious outcome. Ep 24: Kira took everyone by surprise, outcome followed. Ep 26: Kira vs. Grunts. Ep 28: More like Shinn got the plot shield against Kira. Ep 32: Why was Shinn able to land all the beam saber hits while Stella's destroy put up its shield every time Kira went in for a saber shot? Ep 34: Kira got plothaxed by Fukuda. He even admitted it later "eh, I wasn't really trying..." I mean WTF...he was busy texting AA and not concentrating when there's a guy trying to kill him? O_o... Ep 36 (??): (Athrun got goufed): probably the only "plot shield" instance for the GS characters. Ep 39: Kira vs. Grunts (in SF!). Very obvious outcome here. From then on: SF was objectively the best MS. If you want, you can blast the fact that Lacus gave Kira a machine which drew a Royal Flush in every single hand of poker. I mean come on...Dragoons, voiture lumiere, beam shields, all of Freedom's goodies (squared)...the only thing missing was a twin buster rifle and Trans-Am (although Lacus Dust >>> Trans-Am any day). And then team Lacus had all of the other best suits...akatsuki is just ridiculous, and IJ makes Destiny look silly. It isn't so much a plot shield vs. the fact that Lacus threw everything into Kira's and Athrun's suits, and a bag of chips along with an infinite supply of Lacus Dust to make sure she flattened the competition. Now you can call WTF on that (be my guest), but I don't think there's any plot shield going on (that wasn't due to a plot device going the other way) aside from Athrun's gouf. |
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2009-02-22, 19:27 | Link #823 | |
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Ep 34? AA gets hit bad by a giant cannon, half the ship was destroyed and no long term effects. Ep 50, vastly outnumbered, not a single guy died. Etc. Its not just about Freedom. Or Lacus. If you don't see a plot shield here then the problem is with you.
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2009-02-22, 20:10 | Link #824 |
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Spoiler for possible spoiler for ZZ:
And we can say no one in GS dies in GSD after we finished the GSD lol, when we watched GSD, we couldn't say for sure the character in GS wouldn't die in GSD... Well, we may have to see the seed movie to figure out whether character in Seed are indeed immortals XD
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2009-02-22, 20:44 | Link #825 | |
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50: I believe we had 99 episodes prior to this to establish that numbers are literally meaningless in the CE universe unless you are near-equivalent in the gundams department. And this wasn't just for Team Lacus. I believe in ep 17 Shinn took down 30 Windams without ever getting hit? And what about Heaven's Base, in which 3 gundams more or less pwnt the joint. |
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2009-02-22, 21:13 | Link #826 | ||
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2009-02-22, 21:44 | Link #831 | |
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Orb had 3 ships. The original TSA. The rest of it was feddie fodder...which DID suffer some massive losses from Neo-genesis I believe. As for AA in GSD 35...just rewatched part of the dub (not bad actually aside from the fact that Murrue sounds WAY too old). Yeah, AA got its wings hurt, and had a flooding in some parts. The engine it detached as a decoy. It was hardly in any form of it'll-take-forever to repair issue. Time? Yes. But then again, ZAFT in the meantime engaged Heaven's Base and took a while to head to Orb, at which point the AA wasn't 100% yet. |
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2009-02-23, 00:04 | Link #833 |
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What's interesting, however, is that the GS crew didn't "gruntify" anyone who wasn't already a grunt. In fact, Kira was having some trouble with said grunts in ep 39 until he got SF.
It was the GSD crew, in fact, that gruntified the destroys. And of course, the GS crew then gruntified the GSD crew--which apparently leads people to believe that they also gruntified the destroys, when Kira only faced one. |
2009-02-23, 01:02 | Link #834 |
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Reason for my dislike of GSD
1. The unfair treatment of the new cast so the old cast could steal the show. 2. The reusing and re-reusing of animation footage 3. Battle were uninteresting (beamspam! beamspam! beamspam!) other then that everything was descent.
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2009-02-23, 06:26 | Link #835 | |
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Ehmmmm...I think in GSD, Kira & the AA are practically a god in ep 12-28 and 39-end, Kira is only a "human" in between. Remember, in the early episode he gruntified a lot of good pilot: Auel in ep 23 (take only one shoot to disable the submerged Abyss, another one or two second in disabling both Heine (ZAFT red pilot, veteran of the first war) and Stellar, taking care of Sting (whom even athrun had difficulties in dealing with), and Athrun himself. Lol, the ultimate proof on how the battle in GSD is always one sided: 25 Goufs + Zaku (with some of them are red coat pilots) in less than 3-5 minutes. It is really unbeliavable even when you have a huge disadvantage in the technology. For comparison, 00 Raiser take more time to take care 10 GN-XIII even though it has a hax in it. |
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2009-02-23, 08:38 | Link #836 | |
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