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Znail · 2011-12-21, 09:00

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Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Horizon is not a romcom.....so it's ok...

I would personally consider Horizon to fit both the Romance and Comedy genres.

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-12-21, 09:14

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Originally Posted by Znail

I would personally consider Horizon to fit both the Romance and Comedy genres.

Yes but comedy is not its point, so it's not a dedicated romcom

Duo Maxwell · 2011-12-21, 12:27

Finally got around to watch this ep, and seriously, this is like the hardest route I've ever seen

, but man, Toori is like the most GAR character when it comes to confessing love. I gave my best respect for him.

The music is fantastic, too. I swear my eyes was teary even with Horizon's deadpan dialogue. That touching moment when Horizon finally falls into his arm.

Kusa-San · 2011-12-21, 12:33

Can someone tell me what exactly Horizon and Toorri said when Horizon asked him "Why did you fall in love with the present Horizon ? " ?

Marcus H. · 2011-12-21, 19:31

I'm a bit confused too (writing the synopsis for this episode is suffering), but from what I understood, the present Horizon reminds him of what the past Horizon would have become in the present. Remember that Horizon's cooking sucked bad when she was young, and P-01s has been trying hard to cook breakfast ever since he first met her.

jeroz · 2011-12-21, 22:25

so which one is the harder route? Horizon or Senjougahara?

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-12-21, 22:40

Wasn't Miriam said to have a harder route than Horizon

?

djmaca · 2011-12-21, 22:43

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Originally Posted by jeroz

so which one is the harder route? Horizon or Senjougahara?

None: Senjougahara(Bakemonogatari) is partially yandere. Horizon is just emotionless, due to her being a bot and had her emotions all stolen.

And I finally got to finish the episode! LOLZ at the exchange between Horizon and Toori. The way how Toori just tried to have Horizon give him permission to grab her breast is this episode's shining moment.

kuroishinigami · 2011-12-22, 09:18

Finally caught up with this series. I'm loving it so far. Toori is an amazing lead, and the characters are amazing too. If only they boobs aren't that big >.<. They're really an eyesore too me. It kinda feels like I'm watching a hentai series when looking at those overly huge breasts lol. Still, one of the best this season, if not the best just due to an amazing lead and soundtrack, not to mention all star seiyuu.

Azuma Denton · 2011-12-22, 10:05

Gosh...
What a clever confession scene...
The last confession scene that makes me drop jaw is back in 2009 from a certain fascinating confession...

This episode is excellent !!!

And i wanna be Suzu resting in a comfortable pillows...

@jeroz
Senjougahara is yandere, while Horizon is kuudere...
Both has its hardship...

And i think its more difficult to catch Kimi~nee...

Duo Maxwell · 2011-12-22, 10:52

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

And i think its more difficult to catch Kimi~nee...

Quite hard, indeed, seeing she's already on brother route forever.

All of your efforts is going to be ignored because she only has her eyes on her little brother.

Kusa-San · 2011-12-22, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I'm a bit confused too (writing the synopsis for this episode is suffering), but from what I understood, the present Horizon reminds him of what the past Horizon would have become in the present. Remember that Horizon's cooking sucked bad when she was young, and P-01s has been trying hard to cook breakfast ever since he first met her.

Yes because he said to her "You're the type of girl who want to work hard to make breakfast for someone. I want to be with you and be your number one guy" . In the Hatena sub he said for the second sentence " But for who Horizon was making these breakfasts ? There should be someone" (or something like that). But yes what you said make sense, thanks.

Marcus H. · 2011-12-22, 19:24

Ah, so that's why the "I want to be with you and be your number one guy" part felt off.

~Yami~ · 2011-12-23, 17:45

wow! Toori actually can win the battle of words, eh?? arguing about paralel.... this is very cool plot... he looks dumb but he's actually smart.... now I'm really thankful about his contract for always being happy
welcome back, horizon... and we need season 2!!!!

ookamigirl · 2011-12-24, 10:18

Horizon sure knows how to be cold to that baka guy.
It really is hard being cheerful when the new Horizon is beating him with reason & facts.
Kinda felt sorry for him.
Glad everything worked out though ^^

mechalord · 2011-12-25, 01:39

The second half of the 12th episode should have been the beginning of the first episode. The second half of the first episode should have been a long monologue from a narrator about the setting of our story.

It only took 12 episodes to sort of figure what is sort of going on.

But we still need to be informed that...
- In the future, humans went to space.
- Space faring Japanese people (I assume) returned to an abandoned Earth.
- they got freaked out and took war reenactment and cosplay to the next level. They all decided to adopt different cultures of the extinct peoples of Earth and tried to restore the planet by becoming super hardcore cosplay war re-enactors but it all got too real and they fought for real and the people who adopted a Japanese like culture got screwed.

Duo Maxwell · 2011-12-25, 06:22

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Originally Posted by mechalord

But we still need to be informed that...
- In the future, humans went to space.
- Space faring Japanese people (I assume) returned to an abandoned Earth.

The world they describe didn't sound like space, though.

Cosmic Eagle · 2011-12-25, 08:32

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Originally Posted by mechalord

The second half of the 12th episode should have been the beginning of the first episode. The second half of the first episode should have been a long monologue from a narrator about the setting of our story.

It only took 12 episodes to sort of figure what is sort of going on.

But we still need to be informed that...
- In the future, humans went to space.
- Space faring Japanese people (I assume) returned to an abandoned Earth.
- they got freaked out and took war reenactment and cosplay to the next level. They all decided to adopt different cultures of the extinct peoples of Earth and tried to restore the planet by becoming super hardcore cosplay war re-enactors but it all got too real and they fought for real and the people who adopted a Japanese like culture got screwed.

Until now it's mentioned nowhere in the novels that it was really space...let alone the anime obviously

The Harmonic Divine States are not the realm they are referring to...it's a most likely pocket dimension like space where everyone else besides the Japanese were living in....

The realm concerned AFAIK was long lost to them even before the Harmonic Unification war...

mechalord · 2011-12-25, 13:36

- In the far far far future some humans went away somewhere with super technomagical technology.

- some people (mostly Japanese?) came back to an empty planet or something, people were gone.

- they decided to use their tech to make places to live but stay close to each other on the patch of Earth that was the least messed up

- they decide to recreate/restore the lost cultures of Earth by becoming war reenactors/cosplayers and adopting the cultures of the extinct humans in order to restore them

- technology fails, war reanactment gets real

- people who adopt the ancient Japanese culture lose, get screwed over, and have to live on some ship that flies in circles.

more accurate?

Icy.Tear · 2011-12-25, 14:57

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2011-12-21, 12:27	Link #63
Duo Maxwell A Proud Lolicon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In front of my computer Age: 37	Finally got around to watch this ep, and seriously, this is like the hardest route I've ever seen , but man, Toori is like the most GAR character when it comes to confessing love. I gave my best respect for him. The music is fantastic, too. I swear my eyes was teary even with Horizon's deadpan dialogue. That touching moment when Horizon finally falls into his arm. __________________

2011-12-21, 12:33	Link #64
Kusa-San I'll end it before April. Join Date: Jul 2008	Can someone tell me what exactly Horizon and Toorri said when Horizon asked him "Why did you fall in love with the present Horizon ? " ? __________________

2011-12-21, 19:31	Link #65
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	I'm a bit confused too (writing the synopsis for this episode is suffering), but from what I understood, the present Horizon reminds him of what the past Horizon would have become in the present. Remember that Horizon's cooking sucked bad when she was young, and P-01s has been trying hard to cook breakfast ever since he first met her. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2011-12-21, 22:25	Link #66
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	so which one is the harder route? Horizon or Senjougahara? __________________ [TAC]

2011-12-21, 22:40	Link #67
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Wasn't Miriam said to have a harder route than Horizon ? __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2011-12-22, 09:18	Link #69
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	Finally caught up with this series. I'm loving it so far. Toori is an amazing lead, and the characters are amazing too. If only they boobs aren't that big >.<. They're really an eyesore too me. It kinda feels like I'm watching a hentai series when looking at those overly huge breasts lol. Still, one of the best this season, if not the best just due to an amazing lead and soundtrack, not to mention all star seiyuu.

2011-12-22, 10:05	Link #70
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Gosh... What a clever confession scene... The last confession scene that makes me drop jaw is back in 2009 from a certain fascinating confession... This episode is excellent !!! And i wanna be Suzu resting in a comfortable pillows... @jeroz Senjougahara is yandere, while Horizon is kuudere... Both has its hardship... And i think its more difficult to catch Kimi~nee...

2011-12-22, 19:24	Link #73
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Ah, so that's why the "I want to be with you and be your number one guy" part felt off. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2011-12-23, 17:45	Link #74
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	wow! Toori actually can win the battle of words, eh?? arguing about paralel.... this is very cool plot... he looks dumb but he's actually smart.... now I'm really thankful about his contract for always being happy welcome back, horizon... and we need season 2!!!!

2011-12-24, 10:18	Link #75
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Horizon sure knows how to be cold to that baka guy. It really is hard being cheerful when the new Horizon is beating him with reason & facts. Kinda felt sorry for him. Glad everything worked out though ^^ __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2011-12-25, 01:39	Link #76
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	The second half of the 12th episode should have been the beginning of the first episode. The second half of the first episode should have been a long monologue from a narrator about the setting of our story. It only took 12 episodes to sort of figure what is sort of going on. But we still need to be informed that... - In the future, humans went to space. - Space faring Japanese people (I assume) returned to an abandoned Earth. - they got freaked out and took war reenactment and cosplay to the next level. They all decided to adopt different cultures of the extinct peoples of Earth and tried to restore the planet by becoming super hardcore cosplay war re-enactors but it all got too real and they fought for real and the people who adopted a Japanese like culture got screwed.

2011-12-25, 13:36	Link #79
mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	- In the far far far future some humans went away somewhere with super technomagical technology. - some people (mostly Japanese?) came back to an empty planet or something, people were gone. - they decided to use their tech to make places to live but stay close to each other on the patch of Earth that was the least messed up - they decide to recreate/restore the lost cultures of Earth by becoming war reenactors/cosplayers and adopting the cultures of the extinct humans in order to restore them - technology fails, war reanactment gets real - people who adopt the ancient Japanese culture lose, get screwed over, and have to live on some ship that flies in circles. more accurate?

2011-12-25, 14:57	Link #80
Icy.Tear 二人は独自の世界を展開 Join Date: Apr 2011	http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...ume_1A_History __________________ このときに、この二人は独自の世界を展開・・・