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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 05 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 40 | 33.06% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 40 | 33.06% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 29 | 23.97% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 6.61% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.65% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.83% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-02-06, 14:37 | Link #261 | |
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As for unredeemable, I'm hoping her backstory is just full of complete evilness.
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2011-02-06, 18:17 | Link #262 | |||
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and as I said somewhere before, Kyuube might not be evil, but certainly not a favourable guy to rely on. Quote:
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Second, did Sayaka ever had a pride in any sort? It has been obvious she is 'hiding' all her true emotions under that 'fake display of pride' in order to make Madoka feel better.
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2011-02-06, 22:37 | Link #263 |
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Kyouko IS a selfish bitch. However, Sayaka still is in no position to lecture her. The Puella Magi fight in compensation for the desire granted through that wish. There is nothing that says they're supposed to be good civil servants protecting the people; that's just Sayaka trying to force her ideals on Kyouko. Protecting other lives, while noble, is beyond their normal call of duty.
Sayaka COULD have placed priority on getting to the familiar and focused on getting around or past Kyouko. However, Sayaka did not just, because Kyouko pissed her off, or as Kyubey puts it, she couldn't accept Kyouko. At this moment, she is more concerned about beating Kyouko than she is about keeping close pursuit on the familiar. It may be a natural reaction to pick a fight, but it still shows that her conviction to protect others for justice is not a top priority and that she's in way over her head. Of course Sayaka is aware that she could die for her wish, but that just means she's prepared to kill Witches. However, living to protect every other life is a different and bigger cause than what she is prepared for. |
2011-02-06, 22:52 | Link #264 | |
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Going deep into is utterly meaningless.
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2011-02-06, 23:16 | Link #266 | |
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Thus, it's only natural to want to kick her butt. I'd be quite disturbed even about anyone who didn't want to kick her butt after that speech.
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2011-02-06, 23:20 | Link #267 | |
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I'd say Madoka is one of the best shows this season. It has an incredible soundtrack (Kajiura Yuki), creativity with its universe, an original and engaging plot, and its one of those shows that stir up an insane amount of discussions, theories, and fanart. Give it three episodes and you'll be hooked.
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2011-02-06, 23:34 | Link #268 | ||
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Sayaka is fighting Kyoko because Kyoko won't let Sayaka kill the familiar. Kyoko wants to let the familiar kill a person first, become a witch, and then harvest that witch for a grief seed. And Sayaka is the selfish one imposing her morals on Kyoko? What?
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2011-02-06, 23:56 | Link #269 | |
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What? You make it sound like there can only be one selfish person between them. The point is, there are ways around that fight. Sayaka didn't make an effort to get past Kyoko any way possible and instead intended to fight her to win all the way through. Sayaka didn't see Kyoko just as an obstacle to getting to the familiar but as an enemy who opposes her ideals. There IS a difference. Sayaka is not prepared to protect everyone. |
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2011-02-06, 23:57 | Link #270 | |
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My recommendation is to marathon episodes 1-5 and join the fun. |
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2011-02-07, 00:18 | Link #271 | |
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2011-02-07, 00:34 | Link #272 | |
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If you kill off all familiars,no more witches,no more witches means no more grief seeds,no more grief seeds means you can't purify your egg anymore and whatever bad thing that happens when it goes all black will happen to you.
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2011-02-07, 01:24 | Link #273 |
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You guys analyzed too much about Sayaka's actions. She is the kind of character acting before thinking. She is just pissed off by Kyoko. She gets too much more emotions than she can hold so she wants to throw her emotions at the most convenient target. Similar to demanding Houmura to return the grief seed at the end of ep 3. You may judge right and wrong at given circumstances, but it certainly is not rational.
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2011-02-07, 03:39 | Link #274 |
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While we know witches can grow from familiars, we don't know that familiars are the only source of witches since all the familiars we have seen are already minions of existing witches.
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2011-02-07, 07:19 | Link #275 | |
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BTW, you should ask these questions in the suggestion forum. Asking here is like asking the fruit seller if fruit are good.
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2011-02-07, 09:07 | Link #277 | |
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2011-02-07, 17:49 | Link #278 | |
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Just because this series has tons of Faust reference, it doesn't mean we should analyse the most normal reactions.
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2011-02-07, 17:54 | Link #279 |
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I loved the cafe sequence between Homura and Madoka, between the incidental music and Homura telling Madoka to give up on Sayaka that was an excellent moment.
When Kamijo was presented with his violin, I was kind of expecting him to not be able to play, in that twisted monkey's paw fashion. Although as it is, Sayaka's wish didn't seem to cover his legs, so maybe he'll not be able to walk properly again. Is it me, or was the bit where Kyubey looms up at Madoka and we get the patented SHAFT eyeball zoom-in sequence just creepy or what? Especially as Madoka appearing 'in' Kyubey's eye has a certain symmetry with the end title sequence. So, the big fight, and the difference in attitude between Sayaka and Kyoko - while Sayaka made a wish to help someone else and sees herself as defender of the city, Kyoko's attitude is much more selfish, and it wouldn't surprise me if her wish was a selfish one. She'll quite happily let people die to turn a familiar into a witch so she can score more grief seeds. As she says, it's the food chain. And Homura appears just in the nick of time to prevent Madoka doing something rash, despite further temptation from our favourite furball. |
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