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mokuseimaru · 2009-07-16, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

No, it's a picture of Haruhi with long hair in a black school uniform.

Nowhere on that cover does it say "We are animating The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya".

They haven't actually said anything about this new rerun. Ergo, they aren't lying.

Besides, we don't really know how long this new run is going to last for at all.

(Hell, Sighs could even be two episodes.)

We don't know anything. Stop assuming that we do.

It is a uniform that matches one from "Disappearance" down to the tapering ends of the bow. If you think "We are animating The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" wasn't the message they were trying to convey with that image, then I'd like to know what message they were intending?

I will admit, however, this whole thing will be much less annoying in the long run if they do a true second season in Fall or Winter. But it costs money to make episodes, so even if they do this the quality of the animation will certainly suffer.

drpassafiume · 2009-07-16, 15:23

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Originally Posted by Tempester

That was...

Spoiler for my reaction.:

Not much else to say.

Thank you tempster...

This is perfect....

Tyabann · 2009-07-16, 15:45

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Originally Posted by mokuseimaru

It is a uniform that matches one from "Disappearance" down to the tapering ends of the bow. If you think "We are animating The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" wasn't the message they were trying to convey with that image, then I'd like to know what message they were intending?

So what if it's the same uniform? It's just a picture.

A picture is not concrete information, nor does it mean anything by itself.

We, the fans, were the ones who attached meaning to it. I keep saying this, but...

Takamura Mamoru · 2009-07-16, 15:52

Whether it was literally stated or not, you can't deny that the implied message was "Disappearance" and then not giving the viewers that is simply mean.

They might not be liars, but they are jerks.

Sute443 · 2009-07-16, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

So what if it's the same uniform? It's just a picture.

A picture is not concrete information, nor does it mean anything by itself.

We, the fans, were the ones who attached meaning to it. I keep saying this, but...

As you speak English fluently, I know there is no plausible way you are unfamiliar with the saying "A picture is worth a thousand words." What words would you associate with the picture?

Tyabann · 2009-07-16, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Takamura Mamoru

They might not be liars, but they are jerks.

There, thank you.

Yes, that they are. They are jerks. But they aren't liars.

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Originally Posted by Sute443

As you speak English fluently, I know there is no plausible way you are unfamiliar with the saying "A picture is worth a thousand words." What words would you associate with the picture?

"Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya"?

That's a subjective assumption based on preexisting knowledge, however. Nowhere in that article did they actually bring up that picture and discuss it.

I know they're fucking with us, I just object to people saying that they're lying. Not the same thing.

Roger Rambo · 2009-07-16, 15:58

Haven't had the chance to watch the episode yet (summer class) but I'm taking that the animation in this iteration wasn't so shitty as in some of the previous episodes.

Sute443 · 2009-07-16, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I know they're fucking with us, I just object to people saying that they're lying. Not the same thing.

Would you accept that although they did not technically lie, they were purposefully attempting to lead fans of the novels to a false conclusion? I think we agree on the spirit of what they did, and are just quibbling over technicalities.

Dakota · 2009-07-16, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Sute443

Would you accept that although they did not technically lie, they were purposefully attempting to lead fans of the novels to a false conclusion? I think we agree on the spirit of what they did, and are just quibbling over technicalities.

I accept this.

They're like that girlfriend that we wish we had. In the end we either:

1. Happy Ending

2. Failboat

Ithekro · 2009-07-16, 16:09

We are really starting to overthink this situation aren't we?

Tyabann · 2009-07-16, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Haven't had the chance to watch the episode yet (summer class) but I'm taking that the animation in this iteration wasn't so shitty as in some of the previous episodes.

Art and animation both, yes. They didn't abuse lighting effects and desaturation this time, thought they did use camera techniques present in S1.

It's a fair tradeoff if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Sute443

Would you accept that although they did not technically lie, they were purposefully attempting to lead fans of the novels to a false conclusion? I think we agree on the spirit of what they did, and are just quibbling over technicalities.

I don't know WHAT they're doing.

I'm just saying expecting anything at this point is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

We are really starting to overthink this situation aren't we?

Exactly. It's pointless to guess the reasoning behind this. We don't know.

Roger Rambo · 2009-07-16, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Art and animation both, yes. They didn't abuse lighting effects and desaturation this time, thought they did use camera techniques present in S1.

It's a fair tradeoff if you ask me.

Probably wouldn't be nearly as much butt hurt over these new episodes if Kyoani could stick to this style/level of quality.

Malkuth · 2009-07-16, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Lost-Wisdom

What is the matter with the people down voting this to 1?

Is the voting poll system so easily abused?

No, we find it painful

And without an FF, since I was watching it live it became more so

Roger Rambo · 2009-07-16, 16:16

If Kyoani has even a modicum of sanity, they'll be adding ALLOT more episodes in this season than what they had in Season 1. Because filling up half your total episodes with stuff like this is going to murder DVD sales no matter how you try to pull it.

A:Chunk all endless 8 episodes onto the same DVD's
=people buy the half of the seaon DVD's w/o endless 8

B:Splice Endless 8 episodes throughout the other DVD's
=A bunch of people don't purchase anything and just pirate the episodes they want online.

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Originally Posted by Lost-Wisdom

What is the matter with the people down voting this to 1?

Is the voting poll system so easily abused?

Because allot of people are annoyed that Endless 8 hasn't ended yet.

Tyabann · 2009-07-16, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Probably wouldn't be nearly as much butt hurt over these new episodes if Kyoani could stick to this style/level of quality.

I only really disliked E8III, as it had nothing going for it at all.

E8II had the general atmosphere of WTF, E8IV had the plane and the theater scene, and this has the epic clock screw thing.

I'd like to see someone take all the cool scenes from each episode and put them together into one, epically cool episode.

That'd be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Because allot of people are annoyed that Endless 8 hasn't ended yet.

Most of these people are ones who haven't even watched the episode.

kalbron · 2009-07-16, 16:22

Erm. Isn't purposefully misleading people for material gain the same as lying? Or rather fraud, which is simply a more serious form of lying.

Fenrir_valindri · 2009-07-16, 16:23

I vote on an episode by episode merit, so I don't really take previous episodes into account when rating, I save that for the overall series impression poll.

This episode was pretty well done, probably on par with episode 3. The perspective shots and animation improved greatly over 4-5.

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As for the entire thing with Disappearance, we honestly don't know if they will show it or not, so we can't say if Kyoani was "deceiving us" or not until we know for sure that this will end with Disappearance being aired or not.

Roger Rambo · 2009-07-16, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

E8II had the general atmosphere of WTF

Part II also had the awesome fashion and fan service. That was win.

I guess I've just kind of become apathetic to the new episodes coming out.

Malkuth · 2009-07-16, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

I only really disliked E8III, as it had nothing going for it at all.

Yup, that was the worse in so many aspects ...

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Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

Most of these people are ones who haven't even watched the episode.

Dude, assume the same for the 10s.

Tyabann · 2009-07-16, 16:25

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Originally Posted by kalbron

Erm. Isn't purposefully misleading people for material gain the same as lying? Or rather fraud, which is simply a more serious form of lying.

Who said they were misleading us at all? We made the assumption that "art from Disappearance means they're animating Disappearance".

It's still fucking with us, but it's technically our fault for expecting something.

In any case, since spring, KyoAni has pretty much turned into a joke, and Haruhi with it. That's the real consequence here, and the real reason why I'm pissed.

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Dude, assume the same for the 10s.

Exactly. The votes in between those are the ones that really matter.

View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 06 Rating
Perfect 10	43	13.52%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	22	6.92%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	28	8.81%
7 out of 10 : Good	24	7.55%
6 out of 10 : Average	22	6.92%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	15	4.72%
4 out of 10 : Poor	11	3.46%
3 out of 10 : Bad	6	1.89%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	12	3.77%
1 out of 10 : Painful	135	42.45%
Voters: 318. You may not vote on this poll

2009-07-16, 15:58	Link #207
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	Haven't had the chance to watch the episode yet (summer class) but I'm taking that the animation in this iteration wasn't so shitty as in some of the previous episodes. __________________ DEEP WITHIN A PARALLEL UNIVERSE WHERE GENESTEALERS ARE MADE OF F***ING RUBBER!

2009-07-16, 16:09	Link #210
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	We are really starting to overthink this situation aren't we? __________________

2009-07-16, 16:23	Link #217
Fenrir_valindri Miria's #1 Disciple Join Date: Apr 2007	I vote on an episode by episode merit, so I don't really take previous episodes into account when rating, I save that for the overall series impression poll. This episode was pretty well done, probably on par with episode 3. The perspective shots and animation improved greatly over 4-5. ---- As for the entire thing with Disappearance, we honestly don't know if they will show it or not, so we can't say if Kyoani was "deceiving us" or not until we know for sure that this will end with Disappearance being aired or not. __________________

2009-07-16, 15:52	Link #204
Takamura Mamoru The Hawk Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin, Fatherland	Whether it was literally stated or not, you can't deny that the implied message was "Disappearance" and then not giving the viewers that is simply mean. They might not be liars, but they are jerks.

2009-07-16, 16:22	Link #216
kalbron Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006	Erm. Isn't purposefully misleading people for material gain the same as lying? Or rather fraud, which is simply a more serious form of lying.