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ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 21:51

You do not underestimate a kid's mind, remember child developed their mental as they grow, grow with bad childhood and it's a damn miracle to survive as proper adult.

Please accept it as advice and not argument.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 21:56

I never accept it as an argument

I asked a question, so I expect answers that don't exactly agree with my previous mindset

Anyway, is it odd for a child who was abused to still try and defend their parent when he/she's in danger?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:17

Stockholm effect?

This happen very often, in fact. It's wrong way of imprinting, but imprinting nonetheless

If this happens, then the person defending the abuser is mentally disturbed to certain degree and pretty much require rehabilitation, or at the very least psychotherapy and/or a lot of emotional support...

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:20

@ Senpai - Not defending their actions, mind you. I meant trying to stop someone from killing said abuser even if it's deserved.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:23

Well, that one is sorta justified per humanly instinct than anything else.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:29

@ Senpai - I planned to use it as an ironic echo to show how Irish differs from both the past and present. In the past he defended his almost complete monster dad when he should've been happy he was getting killed while in the present he encourages killing anyone who has a possibility of being a threat.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:33

Wow, good point.

Rin also did pretty much the same thing, Ichika are this close to permanently crippling a girl who... erm, went too far with bullying and almost caused fatal injury in Rin herself.

Cue 9 months later and Rin beat the crap out of her when she's not repenting at all.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:37

@ Senpai - Hypocrisy is expected when someone's angry or hyped up on teen hormones.

Side note - Is it possible for a wide eyed idealist to act like he's somewhat like a cynic?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:42

Yes, it was possible. As for how, dunno. Maybe doing it by way of sarcasm and being snarky? also, Hypocrisy is expected.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:50

@ Senpai - How does one usually get phobia's? Through extended time with the thing you're scared of, or just being born with it.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:52

Sometimes you developed it after excessive exposure, but sometimes they also caused by one-scene trauma.

I don't know about phobia that exist all along :|

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:07

@ Senpai - Is it possible for the body to develop a violent reaction when faced with something they're afraid of?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:18

Yes, there's a blurred line between paralyzed in fear and furiously rebelling. It's mostly due to adrenaline.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:28

@'Sempai - So the reaction is unconscious and not of the person's will?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:32

They act more like subconscious drive indeed, like someone within your brains telling you to fight or flight (run).

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:38

@ Senpai - How would someone with Gynophobia react to being in physical contact with females, a person afraid of fire coming into contact with fire etc etc?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:45

Once again, usually three choice: stunned, panic/violence, or run.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:48

@ Senpai - Do Ichika and Madoka have any weaknesses or phobias?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:51

Lesbian for Madoka. As for Ichika, bad food

Eratas123 · 2012-02-15, 00:06

Why's Madoka homophobic? Most people have reasons for being so.

2012-02-14, 21:51	Link #22121
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	You do not underestimate a kid's mind, remember child developed their mental as they grow, grow with bad childhood and it's a damn miracle to survive as proper adult. Please accept it as advice and not argument. __________________

2012-02-14, 21:56	Link #22122
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I never accept it as an argument I asked a question, so I expect answers that don't exactly agree with my previous mindset Anyway, is it odd for a child who was abused to still try and defend their parent when he/she's in danger? __________________

2012-02-14, 22:17	Link #22123
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Stockholm effect? This happen very often, in fact. It's wrong way of imprinting, but imprinting nonetheless If this happens, then the person defending the abuser is mentally disturbed to certain degree and pretty much require rehabilitation, or at the very least psychotherapy and/or a lot of emotional support... __________________

2012-02-14, 22:20	Link #22124
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Not defending their actions, mind you. I meant trying to stop someone from killing said abuser even if it's deserved. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:23	Link #22125
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well, that one is sorta justified per humanly instinct than anything else. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:29	Link #22126
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - I planned to use it as an ironic echo to show how Irish differs from both the past and present. In the past he defended his almost complete monster dad when he should've been happy he was getting killed while in the present he encourages killing anyone who has a possibility of being a threat. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:33	Link #22127
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Wow, good point. Rin also did pretty much the same thing, Ichika are this close to permanently crippling a girl who... erm, went too far with bullying and almost caused fatal injury in Rin herself. Cue 9 months later and Rin beat the crap out of her when she's not repenting at all. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:37	Link #22128
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Hypocrisy is expected when someone's angry or hyped up on teen hormones. Side note - Is it possible for a wide eyed idealist to act like he's somewhat like a cynic? __________________

2012-02-14, 22:42	Link #22129
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Yes, it was possible. As for how, dunno. Maybe doing it by way of sarcasm and being snarky? also, Hypocrisy is expected. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:50	Link #22130
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - How does one usually get phobia's? Through extended time with the thing you're scared of, or just being born with it. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:52	Link #22131
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Sometimes you developed it after excessive exposure, but sometimes they also caused by one-scene trauma. I don't know about phobia that exist all along :\| __________________

2012-02-14, 23:07	Link #22132
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Is it possible for the body to develop a violent reaction when faced with something they're afraid of? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:18	Link #22133
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Yes, there's a blurred line between paralyzed in fear and furiously rebelling. It's mostly due to adrenaline. __________________

2012-02-14, 23:28	Link #22134
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@'Sempai - So the reaction is unconscious and not of the person's will? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:32	Link #22135
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	They act more like subconscious drive indeed, like someone within your brains telling you to fight or flight (run). __________________

2012-02-14, 23:38	Link #22136
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - How would someone with Gynophobia react to being in physical contact with females, a person afraid of fire coming into contact with fire etc etc? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:45	Link #22137
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Once again, usually three choice: stunned, panic/violence, or run. __________________

2012-02-14, 23:48	Link #22138
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Do Ichika and Madoka have any weaknesses or phobias? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:51	Link #22139
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Lesbian for Madoka. As for Ichika, bad food __________________

2012-02-15, 00:06	Link #22140
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Why's Madoka homophobic? Most people have reasons for being so. __________________