2013-01-20, 00:40 | Link #961 |
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The context is, before that dialogue, Yuusha already explained that he does interact with the spirit, especially during battles with demons. So, that's pretty much Yuusha saying: for him, the Spirit does exist.
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2013-01-20, 00:50 | Link #962 |
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The context is that whenever he fights he feels that he is being protected by the Spirits of Light. That's not the same as him actually conversing with the spirits of light, nor are there any other signs in the manga that the Spirits of Light actually do exists.
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2013-01-20, 01:02 | Link #964 |
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LOL That itself is one big statement that Yuusha himself thinks it exist no matter how you cut it . I don't have to proove the Spirit does exist nor I'm saying it actually exists. Once again, I only have to proove that Yuusha feels it exist.
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This is silly. I said that Yuusha never explicitly states that Spirits exists. In the anime he actually confirms that he talks with the Spirits. In the manga, all we ever really get is that he has a feeling that the Spirits do exist, which is my original point.
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2013-01-20, 01:20 | Link #966 |
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Having watched the last 3 eps, ,my initial impressions are that this seems interesting enough, and I'm quite intrigued. Also, MaouxYuusha OTP. XD
And Head Maid is always amusing.
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2013-01-20, 01:32 | Link #967 |
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The Head Maid just bumped up character points for me. Just for the laughs
Also, so far I'm enjoying it. So far it's been a research/talkative anime explaining the problems of Medieval Europe, but by the end of episode 3. It will finally show us some action that has been shown in the opening... But not caring about all of that. THAT ARMOR IS SO AWESOME!! I MEAN JUST LOOK AT IT! ITS SO EPIC-LOOKING!! I WANT A REPLICA OF IT!!
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2013-01-20, 01:37 | Link #968 | |
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Those points prove that your point about Yuusha never explicitly state that the Spirit exists is wrong. It's a fact, not opinion. If you still disagree with this solid fact, then I give up. You can continue proclaiming that Yuusha never stated the Spirit exists all you want for all I care.
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2013-01-20, 01:45 | Link #969 | |
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2. Already pointed it out, but he is simply trying to correct Maou that the deity of the religion that holds sway over the entire continent isn't simply called God, but Spirits of Light. It wouldn't be any different if a Muslim would correct a Christian saying it's not God, but Allah. 3. He doesn't know if it exists. But he doesn't outright confirm nor deny its existence. Hate to say it, but it's not fact but all interpretation. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point and move on.
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2013-01-20, 01:55 | Link #970 | |
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@ Elestia: How can you mistake such a simple word meaning?
Now to answer your question: So when a priest says that he feels God's Love it is definite proof that God exists? Okay.... No. But it proves that the priest believe that God exist. Much like Yuusha, which is the point of my argument (in case of Yuusha, it's even more explicit since he actually feels the Spirit's calling, not mere "faith".) With that, your other questions will answer themselves. That's it from me. It's hard to have good argument with someone that continuously miss the point. I'm really not interested in this. I'm bowing out. Thank you. EDIT: In case you missed it, I already prove my point how Yuusha explicitly stated that the Spirit exists with these: Quote:
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2013-01-20, 02:12 | Link #971 |
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We must understand it's from Japan. Japan is part of Asia country, even they want to be treated as one of European countries. Culturally and historically, JPN people were unlike Europeans. Europeans were raised to know a Supreme(capital letter) Being(capital letter) called God(capital letter). Even they cannot feel it, they are raised to believe the existence of Supreme Being. In the world of Japanese RPG, or Western fantasy, there is no such belief system. Yuusha merely implies the Divinity(capital letter) is with him. However, he rejects maou's question as defined in Europe's cultural system.
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2013-01-20, 03:23 | Link #973 |
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And how's that opposing my point? The point to my reply to Elestia is: according to Yuusha (in the manga), the Spirit of Light exists and he explicitly mentioned it in his conversation with Maou.
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2013-01-20, 04:06 | Link #974 |
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I'm trying to understand the 3 merchants' reaction over Maou's compass. It seems they already know what a compass is for, so why are they so keen to monopolize her device? Is the ability of the compass to stay level such a huge deal that one of the merchants remarked, "This will change the world"?
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2013-01-20, 04:32 | Link #977 | |
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1. It's much easier to store, move, and adjust. 2. It stabilizes more quickly in rough waters. I don't know about enough kill over, but it's a significant improvement. I suspect the merchants' reactions are as much a testament to their viciousness as it is to how much of an improvement the compass is.
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2013-01-20, 05:03 | Link #979 | |
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As regards the Spirit of Light, what I took from that scene was that while the Hero has not quite had a personal experience with the Spirit of Light face to face, and therefore can't really give personal proof of it/her/his existence, when he is in combat he believes he feels the Spirit's presence. He also does not worship the spirit as a divine deity, but regards his relationship to the spirit as a friend of sorts. Which, mind you, parallels Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!, and his relationship to the God-Emperor of Mankind.
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