Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[Saint X]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Oh, okay. *whew* had me scared there for a moment, Saint.

That might work. Keroko was passed around between scientists and psyciatres a lot for about 2 and a half years after the disaster before doctor Hiragu took her under his wing, so she travelled a lot (she met Nanoha half a year later, 3 years after the disaster).

Though...

Spoiler for info:

The AlternateS version is that this guy is Dr. Hiragu's son- the said doc a well known Midchildan/Earth doctor that has links with the Takamachi / Kagurazaka families- esp. the majority, who are Midchildan- Shiro and Momoko are the only members of the family on Earth now- the doc serves as messenger between the Eathbound and MC bound family members- esp Keroko's mother- who misses her dear little sister so much.

Keroko's Mom: what's so grand about Earth Anyway?

[FlameSparkZ]

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[haiz123321]

Originally Posted by Kha

It's just an immune response, after all the h4xx both X and me have been throwing into the thread for laughs or for fanon have made not just Nighty and Aaron but a lot of people to be on guard. Its what keeps the thread balance so everyone can have a good game.

While it may appear overzealous at times, we mean well. Really.

how come i didn't notice everyone was on guard

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

An interesting piece there. More of Cero, I see. And, yes, Zerglings make good practice, it seems.

With more thanks to SparkZ, it is to you that I present the third of the drawn Letters- F!

Spoiler for Secret Agent Man...:

He isn't colored in, so to speak, due to his IS, Invisible Frame, which, as it suggests, allows him to conceal himself. Also, hence my unfunny spoiler title.

Once again, many thanks to you, SparkZ.

SEI CHANNNNNNN

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Ah, so that's how the multiple personallity thing works with Cero. Zerglings certainly are an excellent way of showing off skills.

Actually, in my original plan, I wanted to make him spill more Vulgarities and scream non-stop But because I was tired as hell, I just super speed through at the end

But the 'purple' Cero is the true reason why he's given the title "Destroyer of Courage" .

I'm not too sure if it's multi-personality. To me, it's basically the same Cero, just without any moral, social, personal restrains.

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

An interesting piece there. More of Cero, I see. And, yes, Zerglings make good practice, it seems.

In terms of action, and how each of them ticks, Cero is probably the most interesting; being one that uses a unique magic style

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

With more thanks to SparkZ, it is to you that I present the third of the drawn Letters- F!

Spoiler for Secret Agent Man...:

He isn't colored in, so to speak, due to his IS, Invisible Frame, which, as it suggests, allows him to conceal himself. Also, hence my unfunny spoiler title.

Once again, many thanks to you, SparkZ.

Is it wrong to be more attracted to Sein in the drawing

'F' reminds me of... I was about to say Ono Daisuke in his incarnation in Lucky Star but I changed my mind

... Looks like... Looks like...

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Hmm?

I'm interested on which parts of my characterization and interpretation goes beyond lower-key. If you're talking about that Huge Final Boss thing I was talking about, mind you that it's not a proper finalization and it was never something human to begin with. I for one, like to think that as far as the human limits of Nanohaverse goes, I respect it to a degree.

Even my most h4xx of h4xx creations, the Saga der Saga Chronicles, tried to give a pseudo-Nanoha science explanation as to how "Programmed Beings" can exist from the Tome of Darkness. And other aspects of my characters... I don't see what goes beyond low-key.

In DestinyS, the only Lost Logias I intend to introduce is a terra-forming based weapon, and that Final Boss-related core thingy that isn't all that much greater than the Cradle which can already match the Dimensional Fleet toe-to-toe at full power.

Mostly just the DS style boss is what did it for me aside from that I don’t have much issue with anything else you’ve done, but that boss is well… a pretty big thing in and of itself and a fairly easy example. I’ve also just never been a fan of huge super weapons to begin with either as random good guy trump cards or seemingly unstoppable (expect for one weakness) foes. I can already tell stopping this thing is probably going to involve a likely contrived series of events and a hint of deux ex machina most likely since it’s WAY outside what any of the canon stuff could logically handle in a normal fashion.

The boss itself is also just SO Far beyond ANYTHING we’ve ever seen even insinuated, the cradle was pretty large, but it’s NOTHING compared to this. Being moon sized it’s probably millions (perhaps billions if it’s a big moon) of times the volume and mass with proportional increases in required structural strength and power generation.

There is nothing scientific about any of this, not even vaguely. I’d rather you just stick with “it’s magic” then butcher good science to try and make it sound reasonable; which none of it even vaguely is. For instance simply building something the size of the Death Star that could move at even a snails pace would take materials with MILLIONS of times the yield strength of high grade steel, it’s arguable if a material of such strength is even physically possible without some kind of totally unrealistic structural integrity field or mass lightening. If it is just that strong though nothing we’ve ever seen a Nanoha Verse mage or indeed most warships do could probably even dent a blast door, a few inches of the stuff would probably resist contact nuclear detonations, never mind the actual hull.

The power generation capabilities simply to move the thing would be approaching stellar level outputs. Channeled into any kind of reasonable shield nothing in the Nanoha verse ever seen could dent that. Further even if we assume a very low density of weapons emplacements given its surface area we’re still looking at MILLIONS of heavy weapons installations quite probably hundreds of them for every ship in the attack fleet. .

Further given its sheer mass even IF you somehow got dozens of Arc-en-Ciels through to the hull and even if that hull proved vulnerable to them you’d still accomplish almost nothing, the amount of mass they could blast off it would be inconsequential, we’re taking probably fractions of a percent, and unless its reactor is on the outside or something that’s not going to do JACK. The sheer scale of something “moon sized” often seems to escape sci-fi writers (as dose scale in general) never mind the capabilities inherent to something that size even vaguely competently designed.

The “Death Star Style” boss did and still dose strike me as totally hacked and wildly outside canon. The Cradle (the supposed ship of the King) was no where near that size for instance and as you said was hyped as a match for the fleet at full power (though that’s another point I don’t think the TSAB fleet is as big as some people do I’d bet on a few hundred ships at the most). I still think blowing up a planet is also probably outside what the Nanoha-verse is reasonably capable of even with Lost Logia.

This is my view and it’s what I am and will stick too in my own writings. Lost Logia are dangerous indeed (MORE then enough to strictly controlled for sure) but mostly in a biohazard or rouge nuclear weapon rather then “planet/universe ending threat” kind of way. At least that’s my take on it planets and universes are fucking tough, and I don’t like throwing out stuff that can affect either on a large scale willy-nilly in an attempt to make the fight seem “important” particularly when canon shows little support for them.

All that said aside from this bit I haven’t seen anything really objectionable. I’d have to see the other two things used or at least their powers more detailed to make any sort of call on them, but I doubt they’re anymore “scientific”, more so since one is relying on the ever popular and totally vague, “Energy field.”

Originally Posted by Saint X

For me... Canon is the baseline- and I tend to put it into extreme limits- at the very edge of its possibility- to the extreme.

You’re past that, way past IMO. In fact you came to that line and leapt over it naked, screaming, and on FIRE.

Basically, my set is running a thin line between "planet wrecking sneeze/fingersnap", "that's too much" and "that's fine". And i integrate ideas from multiple universes, that's why some may be overpowered in the current universal set.

Some try most of it and the fact you even admit to having planet wrecking potential shows how wildly outside anything hinted at you are given that no mage has even approached nuclear level in canon never mind the stellar level outputs it would take to really damage a planet. I wonder if some of you people grasp just how much power taking out a planet entails.

Here’s a quick thing to help put it in perspective Anti-matter is powerful right? In fact according to current physics it’s the most powerful energy reaction possible since it converts matter to pure energy. (but it’s also often overrated as allot of that “energy” comes out as useless neutrinos, you know the slippery little bugger that can fly though a light year of lead without hitting anything… acutally scores of them are passing right through as you read this.) Anyway, the Death Star is a pretty famous planet killer and a good example since it doesn’t use any funky reactions; it just zaps a planet with a giant ray gun and destroys it.

The power required to blow up a planet death star style is so high that powering a single shot would required a ball of anti-matter/matter at the density of uranium, 500 kilometers wide! Even simply melting the upper crust would require more power then that contained in every nuclear bomb ever built. Either of these is Millions to Billions of times the most generous energy output level possibly attributable to a mage.

Even shit that’s consider like huge like Starlight breaker is barely above MOAB level, it’s not even near nuclear range. Anyone talking about taking out cities or planets has already left canon miles behind beat up, bloodily, and unconscious in a ditch at the side of the road.

In my Ficverse, Canon characters are pitted against situations that some might call unfair and with enemies overpowered, and thus they must adapt to it- and in come OCs that are also adapt or are above the already modded canon characters to further develop/teach or fight them and so on- and the canon side wins.

Which to me shows you might just be incapable of coming with villains that seem dangerous but aren’t ludicrously overpowered and outside anything seen it canon, so to compensate you also wank the hell out of the good guys. MORE POWAH!!!! Dose not a good or interesting story make. It also makes it rather hard to expand on it when you’ve already dealt with a potential universe ending threat… I mean many of those can there fucking be!?

Ever since i've watched Nanoha, i've redefined Magic as the realization and materialization of energy thru physical laws and quantum mechanics, that quickly defies any known phyiscal law.

AKA you’ve made up shit as an excuse to do whatever the hell you want and ignore canon power levels, limits, logic, and common sense. The fact you try to use Quantum mechanics as an excuse shows me you’re likely clueless as what that discipline acutally is. Quantum mechanics is the science of things at the most minute scales of the universe, and yes AT that most TINY of scales quantum mechanics can sometimes seem to defy classic physics, but that’s a key point at that tiny scale. (Quantum mechanics DOSE NOT SCALE) Once you enlarge the scale quantum mechanics becomes classic physics and all its annoying rules like conversation of energy and momentum, inefficiency, relativity, etc apply to you.

Classic physics is the laws and rules for the macro (above atomic) scale, quantum mechanics are the rules and laws at the micro (below atomic) scale. When the later becomes the former, or the former the later then one or the other becomes dominant, but neither is inherently “superior” as many ill informed people often assume. Quantum mechanics is a “newer science” yes but new science doesn’t obsolete older science like classical physics all it dose is explain phenomena the older science couldn’t in this case various aspects of the universe at the quantum scale that class physics has issues dealing with.

Quantum physics can’t be used to “defy” physical laws as the interactions of the various sub-atomic particles and forces at the quantum scale are ultimately what underlies and causes those laws to begin with! The rampant abuse of quantum mechanics by lazy writers without a clue what it really is pisses me off to no end.

IMPORTANT POST SCRIPT:

I don't want you to leave the thread of anything and you can go crazy like this if you want, but I also won't tolerate any attempt to say that this stuff is support by canon and not totally your own creation. That's my main point it's your universe do what you want, but don't pretend you're adhering even vaguely to canon or that this is logical extrapolation. Ultimately this to me is an intellectual dispute you seem to feel canon somewhat supports your interpretation, I don't and I'll say so. That's important this isn't even really about the merits of the story or characters (though the monstrous power level dose turn me off in that regard) it's mostly about whether any of this can be consider to be within the realm of possible canon I don't think it is, and I like to stick close to canon in terms of tech and overall power level hence my disagreement.

On that note it is also perhaps something of a debate about the direction writers and the fanon should be taking the universe post StrikerS if we go down you’re road I fear we could end up like DBZ some some new random power up every other week and tossing out energy blasts that can destroy entire planets in the crossfire. That is NOT the sort of Nanoha Fanon I want to see nor do I think it’s what the creators ever intended.

That said pulling out the "Stop disagreeing and criticizing my ideas or I’ll leave!!!" card is pretty weak.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Mostly just the DS style boss is what did it for me aside from that I don’t have much issue with anything else you’ve done, but that boss is well… a pretty big thing in and of itself and a fairly easy example. I’ve also just never been a fan of huge super weapons to begin with either as random good guy trump cards or seemingly unstoppable (expect for one weakness) foes. I can already tell stopping this thing is probably going to involve a likely contrived series of events and a hint of deux ex machina most likely since it’s WAY outside what any of the canon stuff could logically handle in a normal fashion.

The boss itself is also just SO Far beyond ANYTHING we’ve ever seen even insinuated, the cradle was pretty large, but it’s NOTHING compared to this. Being moon sized it’s probably millions (perhaps billions if it’s a big moon) of times the volume and mass with proportional increases in required structural strength and power generation.

There is nothing scientific about any of this, not even vaguely. I’d rather you just stick with “it’s magic” then butcher good science to try and make it sound reasonable; which none of it even vaguely is. For instance simply building something the size of the Death Star that could move at even a snails pace would take materials with MILLIONS of times the yield strength of high grade steel, it’s arguable if a material of such strength is even physically possible without some kind of totally unrealistic structural integrity field or mass lightening. If it is just that strong though nothing we’ve ever seen a Nanoha Verse mage or indeed most warships do could probably even dent a blast door, a few inches of the stuff would probably resist contact nuclear detonations, never mind the actual hull.

The power generation capabilities simply to move the thing would be approaching stellar level outputs. Channeled into any kind of reasonable shield nothing in the Nanoha verse ever seen could dent that. Further even if we assume a very low density of weapons emplacements given its surface area we’re still looking at MILLIONS of heavy weapons installations quite probably hundreds of them for every ship in the attack fleet. .

Further given its sheer mass even IF you somehow got dozens of Arc-en-Ciels through to the hull and even if that hull proved vulnerable to them you’d still accomplish almost nothing, the amount of mass they could blast off it would be inconsequential, we’re taking probably fractions of a percent, and unless its reactor is on the outside or something that’s not going to do JACK. The sheer scale of something “moon sized” often seems to escape sci-fi writers (as dose scale in general) never mind the capabilities inherent to something that size even vaguely competently designed.

The “Death Star Style” boss did and still dose strike me as totally hacked and wildly outside canon. The Cradle (the supposed ship of the King) was no where near that size for instance and as you said was hyped as a match for the fleet at full power (though that’s another point I don’t think the TSAB fleet is as big as some people do I’d bet on a few hundred ships at the most). I still think blowing up a planet is also probably outside what the Nanoha-verse is reasonably capable of even with Lost Logia.

This is my view and it’s what I am and will stick too in my own writings. Lost Logia are dangerous indeed (MORE then enough to strictly controlled for sure) but mostly in a biohazard or rouge nuclear weapon rather then “planet/universe ending threat” kind of way. At least that’s my take on it planets and universes are fucking tough, and I don’t like throwing out stuff that can affect either on a large scale willy-nilly in an attempt to make the fight seem “important” particularly when canon shows little support for them.

All that said aside from this bit I haven’t seen anything really objectionable. I’d have to see the other two things used or at least their powers more detailed to make any sort of call on them, but I doubt they’re anymore “scientific”, more so since one is relying on the ever popular and totally vague, “Energy field.”


You’re past that, way past IMO. In fact you came to that line and leapt over it naked, screaming, and on FIRE.

Some try most of it and the fact you even admit to having planet wrecking potential shows how wildly outside anything hinted at you are given that no mage has even approached nuclear level in canon never mind the stellar level outputs it would take to really damage a planet. I wonder if some of you people grasp just how much power taking out a planet entails.

Here’s a quick thing to help put it in perspective Anti-matter is powerful right? In fact according to current physics it’s the most powerful energy reaction possible since it converts matter to pure energy. (but it’s also often overrated as allot of that “energy” comes out as useless neutrinos, you know the slippery little bugger that can fly though a light year of lead without hitting anything… acutally scores of them are passing right through as you read this.) Anyway, the Death Star is a pretty famous planet killer and a good example since it doesn’t use any funky reactions; it just zaps a planet with a giant ray gun and destroys it.

The power required to blow up a planet death star style is so high that powering a single shot would required a ball of anti-matter/matter at the density of uranium, 500 kilometers wide! Even simply melting the upper crust would require more power then that contained in every nuclear bomb ever built. Either of these is Millions to Billions of times the most generous energy output level possibly attributable to a mage.

Even shit that’s consider like huge like Starlight breaker is barely above MOAB level, it’s not even near nuclear range. Anyone talking about taking out cities or planets has already left canon miles behind beat up, bloodily, and unconscious in a ditch at the side of the road.

Which to me shows you might just be incapable of coming with villains that seem dangerous but aren’t ludicrously overpowered and outside anything seen it canon, so to compensate you also wank the hell out of the good guys. MORE POWAH!!!! Dose not a good or interesting story make. It also makes it rather hard to expand on it when you’ve already dealt with a potential universe ending threat… I mean many of those can there fucking be!?

AKA you’ve made up shit as an excuse to do whatever the hell you want and ignore canon power levels, limits, logic, and common sense. The fact you try to use Quantum mechanics as an excuse shows me you’re likely clueless as what that discipline acutally is. Quantum mechanics is the science of things at the most minute scales of the universe, and yes AT that most TINY of scales quantum mechanics can sometimes seem to defy classic physics, but that’s a key point at that tiny scale. (Quantum mechanics DOSE NOT SCALE) Once you enlarge the scale quantum mechanics becomes classic physics and all its annoying rules like conversation of energy and momentum, inefficiency, relativity, etc apply to you.

Classic physics is the laws and rules for the macro (above atomic) scale, quantum mechanics are the rules and laws at the micro (below atomic) scale. When the later becomes the former, or the former the later then one or the other becomes dominant, but neither is inherently “superior” as many ill informed people often assume. Quantum mechanics is a “newer science” yes but new science doesn’t obsolete older science like classical physics all it dose is explain phenomena the older science couldn’t in this case various aspects of the universe at the quantum scale that class physics has issues dealing with.

Quantum physics can’t be used to “defy” physical laws as the interactions of the various sub-atomic particles and forces at the quantum scale are ultimately what underlies and causes those laws to begin with! The rampant abuse of quantum mechanics by lazy writers without a clue what it really is pisses me off to no end.

IMPORTANT POST SCRIPT:

I don't want you to leave the thread of anything and you can go crazy like this if you want, but I also won't tolerate any attempt to say that this stuff is support by canon and not totally your own creation. That's my main point it's your universe do what you want, but don't pretend you're adhering even vaguely to canon or that this is logical extrapolation. Ultimately this to me is an intellectual dispute you feel canon somewhat supports your interpretation, I don't and I'll say so. That's important this isn't even really about the merits of the story or characters (though the monstrous power level dose turn me off in that regard) it's mostly about whether any of this can be consider to be within the realm of possible canon I don't think it is, and I like to stick close to canon in terms of tech and overall power level.

That said pulling out the "Stop disagreeing and criticizing my ideas or I’ll leave!!!" card is pretty weak.

Very good points. I'll keep that in mind. Twas an enlightening post. And much thanks to the efforts in it as well.

Well, my biggest fear was really the point of which my characters might've been over-the-top, because if it went to that, then I really have no excuse. But if it's just that, then I could easily bend a lot of things. I could just turn this final boss thing into a Legend of Galactic Heroes fleet battle as well for all I care.

As for the energy field thing, well... yeah, I wouldn't call it scientific. Hell, I pretty much included a Mandrake plant + spiritual descent inside the story for god's sake. It's all purely for the sake of storytelling, but in comparison, it's not really h4xx either since it's just the ever-so-vague energy field nonsense similar to the whole Tome of Darkness darkness thing, only larger a little.

I've always been more of a fantasy writer than sci-fi. I don't really look into the 'whole pseudo-science' thing with that much detail. It really helps.

[Saint X]

@ TK

I told you i give up on the arguments... you win... YOU WIN!!! YOU WIN!!!

no more from me from this point on.

Yes, i'm always tagged as not original...

i'm always tagged as not keeping in canon...

*sulks*

*thinks*


MOVING FORWARD!!!


where was i?

[Nightengale]

HOLY SHITE GL25 IS EPIC. KING KING KING KING.

Spoiler for GL 25:

KING GIGA DRILL BREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honor the man who had truly surpassed Kamina.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

On that note it is also perhaps something of a debate about the direction writers and the fanon should be taking the universe post StrikerS if we go down you’re road I fear we could end up like DBZ some some new random power up every other week and tossing out energy blasts that can destroy entire planets in the crossfire. That is NOT the sort of Nanoha Fanon I want to see nor do I think it’s what the creators ever intended.

That said pulling out the "Stop disagreeing and criticizing my ideas or I’ll leave!!!" card is pretty weak.

DBZ? I know some of us had been quite overbearing (( FlameSparkZ's demi-beings, Kha's versatility + harem power, Homunculus + Powerful Arsenal, etc )), but I don't think any of us ever crossed or intend to cross that line.

Speaking of which, I would like your opinion. If you were to create a huge, powerful, believable anti-fleet weapons system within Nanohaverse limits, how would you go about it? At this point, I'm thinking something akin to the Star Forge-ish parallel with its own fleets (( Star Wars )) but I would like your input, since regardless of which, size + power is what I intend to go for with for the final part of DestinyS.

If moon is too much, then fine. I'm not all that inflexible. What would you think would be appropriate then?

Edit : A picture is worth a thousand words.

Oh, @Tk, if you're wondering, this is Star Forge that I semi-intend to parallel. Of course, minus all that Star Wars negative-infinite-force thing, and replaced with simply magic.

[Saint X]

MOVING FORWARD!!!

To add fuel to the Keroko harem fire...

I introduce to you...

Spoiler for Project Olympus: Hermes: concept pic:

*runs*

@Night



All hail!!!

[Erio]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Ahahaha Sorry about that. I'll be editing the picture soon (Reinforce didn't work out the way I wanted). I'm tempted to leave her hair as it is, though. I don't know, something just 'clicked'.

Maybe there could be some sort of relationship (or growing one) between Tesla and your Fayt-ish character?

Dont worry. It was just an idea I had anyway.

She was not going to be part of the TSAB, though, but part of another organization similar to it. The TSAB only has influence over a very small part of the universe, so it shouldnt be surprising if at another point of the universe there exists another similar organization... I wanted to explore such idea.

It's being worked on, but patching up scans is hard work, especially when your free time is not that much.

Oh it is? Please letme know when it is done!

Originally Posted by FieryAeon

Oh I'm curious, I just went through Erio's OCs fanfic styled bios. Question, you took some of the names from the game Odin Sphere?

Edit: Ok Oswald definitely seems to be modeled after Oswald from Odin Sphere. ^^' Off topic: I love that game, now if only the frame rate for the graphics doesn't slow down in certain fights. ~_~

lol Yup. My Gwendolyn is quite different, though.

And yeah, I love that game too. The slowdown in some boss battles is quite helpful, I must say. However, I do think its sometimes annoying as well.

And thanks for reading.

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Spoiler for Length:

Mostly just the DS style boss is what did it for me aside from that I don’t have much issue with anything else you’ve done, but that boss is well… a pretty big thing in and of itself and a fairly easy example. I’ve also just never been a fan of huge super weapons to begin with either as random good guy trump cards or seemingly unstoppable (expect for one weakness) foes. I can already tell stopping this thing is probably going to involve a likely contrived series of events and a hint of deux ex machina most likely since it’s WAY outside what any of the canon stuff could logically handle in a normal fashion.

The boss itself is also just SO Far beyond ANYTHING we’ve ever seen even insinuated, the cradle was pretty large, but it’s NOTHING compared to this. Being moon sized it’s probably millions (perhaps billions if it’s a big moon) of times the volume and mass with proportional increases in required structural strength and power generation.

There is nothing scientific about any of this, not even vaguely. I’d rather you just stick with “it’s magic” then butcher good science to try and make it sound reasonable; which none of it even vaguely is. For instance simply building something the size of the Death Star that could move at even a snails pace would take materials with MILLIONS of times the yield strength of high grade steel, it’s arguable if a material of such strength is even physically possible without some kind of totally unrealistic structural integrity field or mass lightening. If it is just that strong though nothing we’ve ever seen a Nanoha Verse mage or indeed most warships do could probably even dent a blast door, a few inches of the stuff would probably resist contact nuclear detonations, never mind the actual hull.

The power generation capabilities simply to move the thing would be approaching stellar level outputs. Channeled into any kind of reasonable shield nothing in the Nanoha verse ever seen could dent that. Further even if we assume a very low density of weapons emplacements given its surface area we’re still looking at MILLIONS of heavy weapons installations quite probably hundreds of them for every ship in the attack fleet. .

Further given its sheer mass even IF you somehow got dozens of Arc-en-Ciels through to the hull and even if that hull proved vulnerable to them you’d still accomplish almost nothing, the amount of mass they could blast off it would be inconsequential, we’re taking probably fractions of a percent, and unless its reactor is on the outside or something that’s not going to do JACK. The sheer scale of something “moon sized” often seems to escape sci-fi writers (as dose scale in general) never mind the capabilities inherent to something that size even vaguely competently designed.

The “Death Star Style” boss did and still dose strike me as totally hacked and wildly outside canon. The Cradle (the supposed ship of the King) was no where near that size for instance and as you said was hyped as a match for the fleet at full power (though that’s another point I don’t think the TSAB fleet is as big as some people do I’d bet on a few hundred ships at the most). I still think blowing up a planet is also probably outside what the Nanoha-verse is reasonably capable of even with Lost Logia.

This is my view and it’s what I am and will stick too in my own writings. Lost Logia are dangerous indeed (MORE then enough to strictly controlled for sure) but mostly in a biohazard or rouge nuclear weapon rather then “planet/universe ending threat” kind of way. At least that’s my take on it planets and universes are fucking tough, and I don’t like throwing out stuff that can affect either on a large scale willy-nilly in an attempt to make the fight seem “important” particularly when canon shows little support for them.

All that said aside from this bit I haven’t seen anything really objectionable. I’d have to see the other two things used or at least their powers more detailed to make any sort of call on them, but I doubt they’re anymore “scientific”, more so since one is relying on the ever popular and totally vague, “Energy field.”


You’re past that, way past IMO. In fact you came to that line and leapt over it naked, screaming, and on FIRE.

Some try most of it and the fact you even admit to having planet wrecking potential shows how wildly outside anything hinted at you are given that no mage has even approached nuclear level in canon never mind the stellar level outputs it would take to really damage a planet. I wonder if some of you people grasp just how much power taking out a planet entails.

Here’s a quick thing to help put it in perspective Anti-matter is powerful right? In fact according to current physics it’s the most powerful energy reaction possible since it converts matter to pure energy. (but it’s also often overrated as allot of that “energy” comes out as useless neutrinos, you know the slippery little bugger that can fly though a light year of lead without hitting anything… acutally scores of them are passing right through as you read this.) Anyway, the Death Star is a pretty famous planet killer and a good example since it doesn’t use any funky reactions; it just zaps a planet with a giant ray gun and destroys it.

The power required to blow up a planet death star style is so high that powering a single shot would required a ball of anti-matter/matter at the density of uranium, 500 kilometers wide! Even simply melting the upper crust would require more power then that contained in every nuclear bomb ever built. Either of these is Millions to Billions of times the most generous energy output level possibly attributable to a mage.

Even shit that’s consider like huge like Starlight breaker is barely above MOAB level, it’s not even near nuclear range. Anyone talking about taking out cities or planets has already left canon miles behind beat up, bloodily, and unconscious in a ditch at the side of the road.

Which to me shows you might just be incapable of coming with villains that seem dangerous but aren’t ludicrously overpowered and outside anything seen it canon, so to compensate you also wank the hell out of the good guys. MORE POWAH!!!! Dose not a good or interesting story make. It also makes it rather hard to expand on it when you’ve already dealt with a potential universe ending threat… I mean many of those can there fucking be!?

AKA you’ve made up shit as an excuse to do whatever the hell you want and ignore canon power levels, limits, logic, and common sense. The fact you try to use Quantum mechanics as an excuse shows me you’re likely clueless as what that discipline acutally is. Quantum mechanics is the science of things at the most minute scales of the universe, and yes AT that most TINY of scales quantum mechanics can sometimes seem to defy classic physics, but that’s a key point at that tiny scale. (Quantum mechanics DOSE NOT SCALE) Once you enlarge the scale quantum mechanics becomes classic physics and all its annoying rules like conversation of energy and momentum, inefficiency, relativity, etc apply to you.

Classic physics is the laws and rules for the macro (above atomic) scale, quantum mechanics are the rules and laws at the micro (below atomic) scale. When the later becomes the former, or the former the later then one or the other becomes dominant, but neither is inherently “superior” as many ill informed people often assume. Quantum mechanics is a “newer science” yes but new science doesn’t obsolete older science like classical physics all it dose is explain phenomena the older science couldn’t in this case various aspects of the universe at the quantum scale that class physics has issues dealing with.

Quantum physics can’t be used to “defy” physical laws as the interactions of the various sub-atomic particles and forces at the quantum scale are ultimately what underlies and causes those laws to begin with! The rampant abuse of quantum mechanics by lazy writers without a clue what it really is pisses me off to no end.

IMPORTANT POST SCRIPT:

I don't want you to leave the thread of anything and you can go crazy like this if you want, but I also won't tolerate any attempt to say that this stuff is support by canon and not totally your own creation. That's my main point it's your universe do what you want, but don't pretend you're adhering even vaguely to canon or that this is logical extrapolation. Ultimately this to me is an intellectual dispute you seem to feel canon somewhat supports your interpretation, I don't and I'll say so. That's important this isn't even really about the merits of the story or characters (though the monstrous power level dose turn me off in that regard) it's mostly about whether any of this can be consider to be within the realm of possible canon I don't think it is, and I like to stick close to canon in terms of tech and overall power level hence my disagreement.

On that note it is also perhaps something of a debate about the direction writers and the fanon should be taking the universe post StrikerS if we go down you’re road I fear we could end up like DBZ some some new random power up every other week and tossing out energy blasts that can destroy entire planets in the crossfire. That is NOT the sort of Nanoha Fanon I want to see nor do I think it’s what the creators ever intended.

That said pulling out the "Stop disagreeing and criticizing my ideas or I’ll leave!!!" card is pretty weak.

And Tk strikes again.

About the DBZ part, Nighty, he means that every other week we will introduce an enemy more powerful than the last one, which will result in our characters being boosted up as well every time, rinse and repeat, increasing in power until everyone becomes planet killers.

BTW, Tk, I wonder how you view my characters. Are they over the top h4xx or whatever?

[Liingo]

Originally Posted by AImost Pure

I know, I know, my absence of updates for the story has had everyone on pins and needles. I'm sorry but for some reason I hit a rough spot on certain character ideas and I'm not quite sure I still got them how I want them, but here's another piece of Minea's diaries!

Spoiler for Minea's Diaries:

[Constance]

800 Hours

“Constance.”

“Alexandria.” The two women stood side by side waiting for their departure on the Facility’s Helipad. Each of them wore their barrier jackets readied ahead of time. For Constance, her barrier jacket was much different then the typical clothing style many mages took. It started with a navy blue jump suite separated into two pieces; a long sleeved torso shirt, and combat fatigues pants. Mechanized armor covered her jump suite from there advancing primarily her defense and agility. The armor worked to cover all vital areas with special equipment placed at her feet, joints, and hands. The gloves’ armor set mostly on the main part and left the finger free. Pink gemstones set into each of the top of her hands where her device primarily functioned. On each thigh a silver box, foot long, six inches wide, and six inches tall, was placed on top of the armor with the end facing her foot revealing a gattaling gun top. A visor rested over her eyes, light blue color, connected to either side over her ears with sound enhancing or killing devices.

On top of the facilities armory the helipad sat fenced in with the top three rooms of the weapons storage building on its north side. Workers rushed back and forth from the device craft placing in specialized scanning equipment and attaching extra armor for the woodland landing. Each member of Alexandria’s five chosen was waiting for their signal to board the craft. In front of the line was one of the 3 women; codenamed Ifrit. Ifrit was known for her scared, burned head. Rumors were that when she first used her device the amount of fire magic she used permanently scared the tissue on her head along with her eyes. One couldn’t tell with the way she fought that she was blind. Light charcoal skin from the fire she cast, skin and bones flesh, with a height of 5’7” gave Ifrit a sinister appearance. Her armor had a tint of red on the metal plates, and her device set in the chest piece of her barrier jacket was a crimson hue.

Constance raised her head away from the unit when the siren for their boarding went off. The landing area was setup on the west building of the facility, above the armory. Fenced off around the perimeter of the landing pad, the only two ways into or out of the fenced area was the stairway to the armory’s second floor, or the emergency ladder. The Helicopter was an old model attack. Box shape troop compartment, short wings with twin repeating, magic cannons. Dark green steel color reflecting the sun light with black glares.

Alexandria made the motion for her unit to board the craft; Ifrit was first, followed by the next, Titan. Of the five mages that accompanied Alexandria, Titan was responsible for the primary ground assaults. Another female, her head piece covered her head entirely taking on the shape of a mouth less, smooth human with a giant horn at its forehead. She was the tallest of the unit at a giant height of 7’5” with skin as yellow as sand. Much like the others, she said never a word to anyone. Rock hard muscles bulged against the tight material of the cat suit; she was a fearsome sight for anyone afraid of close quarters combat.

Boarding the vessel next was Alexandria and Constance after the first two. Constance glanced to her partner in the training division taking note of two differences in her armor; a white tint to the steel plates, and a change in the device she was using. The new device set to the center of her breast plate appeared like a tear drop. Dark blue colors swirled in the upper center of the tear drop mimicking a whirl pool. Letting Alexandria come in front of her, Constance noticed the appearance of icicles running down the spine of her armor.

After Constance and Alexandria came the Summoner Mithra. Unlike the other five, Mithra’s mask covered only his jaw allowing his rich blond hair and black eyes to be seen freely. Blond hair was messily cut swaying across his shoulders and the back of his neck. Black eyes held unusual shaped pupils in the surrounding darkness; diamond shaped and void of life. The mask wrapped around the bottom half of his head and face appeared to be made of a thick, coal colored metal. Puncture holes pieced into the front of the mask occasionally allowing the sound of heavy breathing seep through.

Next, was Siege, the units long range expert. Again, his basic uniform matched his comrades perfectly for the standard style and design; metal armor plates on vital areas, steel color, device in middle chest, and a mask. Siege’s mask consisted of a full piece that covered his head similar to masks worn for gas masks; bug eyed lenses over each eye, full covering of his scalp to the top of his dark skinned neck, and a mouth nozzle with a tube linking to a small package on the side of his waist. Siege’s weapon could devastate many armored units from a distance. A large back piece worn on his back, a rifle on the right side of it that flipped over across his shoulder to help ease and steady each shot. The shape of the weapon appeared similar to howitzer cannons only smaller. The back unit was used as a generator for the canon to build the necessary energy to destroy the most crucial of targets.

Constance took her seat besides Alexandria looking at each member of their team. She had never conversed with any of them save for Alexandria. None of them talked, they always traveled together, and they lived with in their own private barracks. Her leg raised crossing over the left with her ankle on top of her knee. Hands folded together setting onto her lap after tilting her head to Alexandria. “Where’s Fiend?” She asked listening for the familiar sounds of Fiend’s metal rubbing together.

Alexandria breathed in deeply resting her body back against the seat’s cushion. Each seat was designed with a shoulder and neck harness for emergency landings with air masks resting above them prepared to fall at a moment’s notice. “She will be here shortly.” Alexandria replied to Constance. “After this is over it’s my turn to pay for lunch, isn’t it?”

“Only if I get more points then you do.” Constance smirked at what Alexandria had said. The two had become good friends since they had begun to work together. Lunch, dinner, sparing, and even going over training material together was now a day to day activity. “Well, she’s finally here.” Constance commented raising her eyes up to the entrance of the passenger area.

Fiend stepped across the platform bringing her inside of the vessel. Braided light purple hair hung down in ten tails to her waist; daggers tied to each tip. Lining her arms and legs on the sides were circler blades attached by chain links from hole to hole; forty total. Fiend’s armor was far more chaotic with rips and tears running all across the cat suite. Each metal armor piece seemed far sharper at the edges then the other unit’s pieces. A true affection for the sharper things in life, Fiend seemed obsessed over the sight of blood. Her magic gave her the skill to telekinetically control inanimate objects and create barriers. In harsh situations, she was the first out to protect the unit, and the first into a transport.

The team was now assembled and ready to depart. The whirling blades overhead lifted the heavy armored transport into the sky. Constance glanced again at each member of the unit watching their reactions, movements, and waiting for any comments. Her mind for a moment thought back to her current assignment with the Investigation of the facility. She was certain somewhere in her mind that Alexandria had nothing to do with the disappearances but that there was something else she was involved in. What though, she was not yet aware.

They don't sound like a group of people I would want to mess with, that's for sure. Nice description on each of their suits and what their roles are.

So Alexandria and Constance have becomes friends.... I'm bracing myself for angst then...

Great job

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

An interesting piece there. More of Cero, I see. And, yes, Zerglings make good practice, it seems.

With more thanks to SparkZ, it is to you that I present the third of the drawn Letters- F!

Spoiler for Secret Agent Man...:

He isn't colored in, so to speak, due to his IS, Invisible Frame, which, as it suggests, allows him to conceal himself. Also, hence my unfunny spoiler title.

Once again, many thanks to you, SparkZ.

I find my attention drawn more to Sein than to F...
Great work as always Flame

@ TK

Hail to the new head moderator!!! (Sorry Aaron)
It seems from what you're written, my characters are for the moment safe. *phew*
*hands over cookies*

[LoweGear]

YUUKI NO SUZUME!!!!

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

"...Let the bodies hit the floor. (Part III) "

Summary: Continuing from the previous one several days ago... A brief look into one of the three Destroyers' combat style. As usual, more... Fitting background music to entertain the viewers, gruesome alien deaths, and finally more average-level English use to project those images for you.

Here is the dark prince himself and his solo performance !!

Background information first

Spoiler for Neo-Valmar Style:

Unlike Jeno and Lance, Cero uses a very unique style of spells, one very much different than anyone Canon in the series, though the closest resemblance is the summoners.

His spells are passed down by his clan from generations to generations. It requires alot of Magic to use hence over time, members of the clan has developed very high magical potential to meet the demands. Unlike other styles, this one also has an interesting property; the magic is so 'thick' and 'concentrated' that visible residues get left behind.

The downside to this style is that the unique magical signatures would affect the user's psychology. The bottom-line is that it blocks out the 'ego' and 'super-ego' part of the mind, causing the user to act out on their wishes and desires without any restrain.

To counter this problem, Jeno and Lance created a magical program inside of him to contain the flow of this magic within a part of his body and away from his brain. They also got Loki to program his Stain to assist in Monitoring the magic.

It's only during fights when Cero uses his magic that the effects slowly take place, as indicated by his golden colour eyes slowing turning dark purple/Indigo, and his speech would also become alot more vulgar... Cero also uses elements from Midchildan magic, by doing so it reduces the effects.

Though "purple-eyed" Cero still behaves like an S.O.B, but compared to before he's alot 'tamer' now... Sort of.

Song title:

"Forgotten"


P.S - I changed the name of the spell slightly...

Spoiler for "Somebody called for an Exterminator?":

A communication screen popped up beside Cero, who has one of his eyes closed.

"Bai? What's wrong?"

The young girl, with a long snow-white hair and cat-ears, in a maid uniform bowed respectfully on the screen.

"Forgive me your highness, but there's a slight problem with the twins that I think you should know..."

Cero chuckled, "What are Yin and Jin up to now ?"

"They made Feng cry again..."

"Uh oh... "

"Lan, Qing and Lu are doing their best to hold Hong back at the moment..."

"Hong is WAY too protective of her little sister Anything else?"

"Yes sir, Hui wants to know whether you'll be back in time for dinner. Lady Spica had just taught both her and Zi a new receipt so she wants you to try it..."

"Spica taught her? I guess it could be an interesting experience... I'll be back soon, just have to clean up this mess with the rest of the guys then we're done. "

Bai nodded, then noticed his covered eye.

With a much more concerned tone she asked, "Does it hurt?"

"It's not as bad as it looks..." Cero smiled. "I'm already used to it."

Bai looked at him silently for a moment before replying.

"Don't... Don't push yourself too hard, the other girls need you..." She voice fell to a whisper. "I need you..."

Cero was slightly taken back, but he kept his emotions.

"Don't worry, I won't..." Cero promised her. "Thank you for everything, Bai."

The young girl blushed. "T-Then I'll take my leave now, somebody's got to stop Jin and Yin from getting themselves killed..."

"Take care "

"You as well, your highness..."

The screen vanished.

Cero sighed as he opened his eye, revealing the pupil to have at least a third of itself turn from his usual golden colour, into the much darker and sinister indigo.

"Thankfully, she called after I had it under control..."

Pulling out his device "Exterminator", Cero wondered what he was just about to do before his head-maid called.

"Oh yeah! Now I remembered..." Said Cero as he raised his left foot...

Spoiler for "From the top to the bottom...":

... And smashed down on to the squirming Zergling beneath his foot, killing it instantly.

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"From the top to the bottom!"


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"Bottom to top I stop!"

Cero kicked up the body vertically above him, as it falls back to the ground, Cero jumped and did a spinning fan kick, propelling the body towards another zergling that was trying to pounce on him.

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"At the core I’ve forgotten!"

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"In the middle of my thoughts!"

The flying body slammed into the attacker and the two of them fell from the air.

They landed onto a fire-hydrant, which impaled the both of them dead center.

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"Taken far from my safety!"

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"The picture is there..."

From behind, another horde of Zerglings erupted from the group, this group is three times as big as the last one that tried to ambush him.

Cero looked around him, their mangled bodies and spilled blood decorated the scenery and the other wreckage around it... Painting a picture of death and destruction, an image of the consequence of going up again a Destroyer such as himself.

But such things won't sway the soulless monsters.

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"The memory won’t escape me..."

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A dark purple Midchildan Magic circle appears beneath him as he charges up that same spell that killed the last group.

It's his most commonly used spell, perfect for getting rid of pests like them.

Once the horde came within range, Cero slammed Exterminator onto the ground.

"But why should I care?!"

Exterminator: <Claw of Valmar>

Five massive 2 storey-tall black claws shot up from the ground around the horde, tearing apart the ones unfortunate enough to be directly above it. The attack stunned and surprised the entire group as they stopped in their tracks to find out what had just happened.

The five claws then close up, trapping and crushing the center group of aliens.

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" There’s a place so dark you can’t see the end
Skies cock back and shock that which can’t defend
The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion... "

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"Claw of Valmar!"

Cero wasted no time to press on the attack, this time he made the huge claw appear in front of him and fired the entire hing towards the enemy. The claw crashed against the frontline like a massive tidal wave and just blew them away.

Cero leaped into the crowd with astonishing speed, using his bo-staff device to knock away anyone still standing from the attack. And for good measures, kciked a few on the ground as well.

Exterminator: <Tail of Valmar>

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" Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot
And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again. "

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A flat-shaped black tail spirals upwards around Cero, it then moves and zig-zag around in the air, slewing as many targets within the range as it can.

Cero took this time to adjust the tight chains that binds his right arm, at the end of the chain is a shiny mirror-like pendulum, from the reflection he could tell the his one eye is nearly completely purple.

The one tail ended it's rampage by stabbing the Zergling that had sneak through and was about to pounce on Cero.

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"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

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Cero has incredible speed, even for a destroyer. His punches, kicks, and strikes using both his body and his device caught the aliens offguard.

Blood and gore splashed around him as tears through the crowd in a flurry of attacks that leave body parts in his wake.

From above, the last remaining squadron of Scourge flew down and attempted to sacrifice themselves to take out the entire block.

Holding his device like a hockey stick, Cero swing it in an upward arc motion from the ground.

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"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up"


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"Fangs of Valmar"

A large black 'C' shape projectile slice right through the Scourges, the explosion caused a chain reaction which detonated the entire swarm.

Exterminator: <Horn of Valmar>

Black sparks dance around the bo-staff as Cero charged another attack at the endless horde apporaching him.

Thrusting the weapon forward in their direction, Cero fired the Horn, which is shaped like a Ram's skull, at the aliens. The horn is slightly different than the fang as it is a pillar that punches through instead of slicing.

The force of the impact cleared everything in front of him.

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"Moving all around / screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind
Street lamps, chain-link and concrete"


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"Damnit... This is fricking endless!!" Cero cursed as another horde could be heard charging at him.

By now his entire left eye had turned be to his original colour of purple, he could also feel his magic potential increasing by the minute. The dark black residues lying around is testament to that.

"Time to try something different..."

Cero held both hands around Exterminator and focus his magic into it.

"Tail of Valmar: Variation."

A large blade appeared at the end on the device.

Exterminator: <Glaive of Valmar>

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"A little piece of paper with a picture drawn floats
On down the street till the wind is gone
The memory now is like the picture was then
When the paper’s crumpled up it can’t be perfect again"

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"RAHHHH!"

Cero skewer five of them in one stab, he then spins himself around and around to knock away all nearby targets while fling the bodies away from the blade.

Spinning the weapon around with lethal precision, Cero hack and slash his way through the sea of cannon fodders with relative ease, leaving mountains of dismembered body parts in his wake.

He then released another Tail of Valmar to slew the zerglings that attempted to ambush him from above. Their blood drizzle onto his coat.

"Heh."

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"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

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"Claw of Valmar: Variation"

Exterminator: <Wall of Valmar>

The claws shot up from the red and black ground around him, acting as a barrier against the attackers that had gotten too close.

"Fang of Valmar: Variation"

Exterminator: <Teeth of Valmar>

Using his limited Space-distortion spell "Assasssination", Cero teleported high above them and unleashed a barriage of projectiles onto the unsuspecting Zerglings. This smaller but faster variation of the large 'Fang' quickly shred through them.

As he decends, he quickly swing his body around and knock a Zergling upwards.

"Woo ha!"

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"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

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"Get lost!"

And kicked the poor sucker into the ground again.

Cero adjusted himself so that he'll land on top of another squirming one. Using another Claw attack, he grabbed a whole bunch of them and toss them over the skyscapers.

Walking over the corpses, Cero inspects his handiwork. All of the Zerglings are perfectly flatten, or in several different pieces scattered around the block.

"Not bad for a day's work... And the song isn't even done yet-"

A pair of massive mandibles explodes from the building behind.

"Horn of Valmar: Variation!"

Exterminator: <Hammer of Valmar>

In mid air, Cero changed the shape of the blade on Exterminator into a Hammer, he then slam it onto the hard head of the creature.

The alien is massive, with 4 huge legs and a ridiculously thick exoskeleton. Its bus-size mandible slashes the air violently as it releases a deafening roar.

"Oh shi..." Cero stared in disbelieve.

The beast focuses on him.

"HOW THE FUCK DID WE MISS AN ULTRALISK?!"

The two beasts charged at each other.

Exterminator: <Ram of Valmar>

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"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up"


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CRASH!!!

Armor meets horn and the two opponents are caught in a deadlock. But even with the added strength of the Horn's variation spell, Cero is slowly but surely losing out to the bigger and heavier Ultralisk.

"Kek-!"

The ground behind their feet cracks and break as the they pushed with all their might, until finally the Zerg prevailed and toss Cero into a concrete wall.

"Ouch..." Cero rubbed his head.

From a distance, he could see the beast charging towards him at full speed. Looking into the small mirror-like pendulum, Cero knows that his last eye is about to lose it's golden colour.

"Oh what the heck..." Sighed Cero, as he pull hard on the pendulum, losening the chains binding his right arm. He toss the long chain onto a lamp post nearby, the pendulum locked itself in a firm position, allow Cero to swing himself to safety at the last moment just when the Ultralisk crashed into the building.

The Ultralisk, for it's size, was quick to orientate itself into another charging postion. Cero stood up on the Lamp post.

"Horn of Valmar..."

Then leaped towards the target and punched his right fist dead center on it's head.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you... "


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The impact had caused the ground to encave in.

The two of them fell into an underground cavern, probably made by the Ultralisk itself. Which would explain how it avoided their visual detection.

"Fuck, so much for 'Ultralisks can't burrow'... "

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I SEE IT RIGHT THROUGH YOU!"

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As the Ultralisk struggles to recover itself, a chilling ominous aura filled the entire area.

Through the dust and debris, a dark figure rises up slowly, his eyes glowed dark purple as he staggers around trying to balance himself. His torn off right sleeve reveal a blood red almost metallic arm with a claw for his hand similiar to that of the attack he uses.

Spoiler for Something like this:

"Finally, both eyes..."

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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Cero stomp his foot on the ground.

"I'M BACK BITCH! AND I'M FUCKING PISSED!!"

A large magic circle appear beneath him, Cero has set his magical potential to maximum output and it is overflowing the area.

"SO JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY!!!"

About twenty tails shot out of the ground and struck the Zerg.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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Had it not been for the tough exoskeleton, the Ultralisk would have been torn into pieces, but that doesn't mean that it didn't hurt.

The force of the attack slammed it through the wall of the cavern.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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Without remorse, Cero slammed his claw into the face of the creature.

"Horn of Destruction!!"

The pillar of black magic smashed point blank into the beast's head.

"Sup bitch!"

In a particularly bad mood today, Cero unleashed another wave of claws onto the dazed Ultralisk, dealing massive damage to whatever it could come into contact with, at the same time, pounding it even deeping into the wall.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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The Ultralisk called for assistance, having never faced a monster that could match it in terms of strength.

All the remaining zerglings that was left from Cero's original bloody assault came to it's aid as tons of them came tunneling through the ground, as well as leaping from the huge hole above them.

"DIE BASTARDS!!!"

Again with the tails. However, this time he made extra sure that he gotten all the little critters. His tails arc above him, impaling the ones still above him.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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"Trying to be funny heh?"

Cero dragged his back leg a little before swing it in an upward arc motion.

"FANG OF DESTRUCTION"

A bigger crescent-shaped projectile cut deep into the it's armor, a large crack appear as the creature howled in pain.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Cero dash in with lightning speed.

"Claw of Destruction!"

The spell made contact with the Ultralisk's underside, knocking it high up and creating another hole in the ground above.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up!"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

Cero teleported above the creature and used one of his binds around the zerg's body. Using that as the axis point, Cero ruthlessly use his speed and began attacking the helpless Ultralisk from all sides. Casting spell after spell at insane speed and point blank range.

Cero went through every Claw, Fang, Tail and Horn that he can think of until the hide exoskeleton of the Ultralisk broke apart. When that happens, he quickly swing himself to be directly above the beast.

"EXTERMINATOR!"

Cero drew his device again.

Exterminator: <Horn of->

"DESTRUCTION!!!"

Cero slammed the Bo-staff into the exposed gut of the creature as the two of them fell unsightly back into the hole they came from.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up!"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

A deafening explosion could be hear when the huge beast landed back into the hole. Cero landed on top of it shortly after.

"Heh," Cero spat on the body. "Too easy..."

The Destroyer was about to jump out when he heard a deep growl behind him...

"What the fuck now?"

(To be continued...)

P.S - It's 2:30 am here, so I sort of went super fast near the end

Now you really showed off Cero's skills now... and damn, even with just spikes and hammers he kicks Zerg ass with lots of style! And the Ultralisk battle was one of the better Destroyer battles yet

Though I'll be nitpicky at the fact that the Ultralisk (that wouldn't be a Tarrasque would it?) "called" for reinforcements when the Zerg are a top to bottom hive mind

Minor nit in an awesome piece though

Originally Posted by AImost Pure

I know, I know, my absence of updates for the story has had everyone on pins and needles. I'm sorry but for some reason I hit a rough spot on certain character ideas and I'm not quite sure I still got them how I want them, but here's another piece of Minea's diaries!

Spoiler for Minea's Diaries:

[Constance]

800 Hours

“Constance.”

“Alexandria.” The two women stood side by side waiting for their departure on the Facility’s Helipad. Each of them wore their barrier jackets readied ahead of time. For Constance, her barrier jacket was much different then the typical clothing style many mages took. It started with a navy blue jump suite separated into two pieces; a long sleeved torso shirt, and combat fatigues pants. Mechanized armor covered her jump suite from there advancing primarily her defense and agility. The armor worked to cover all vital areas with special equipment placed at her feet, joints, and hands. The gloves’ armor set mostly on the main part and left the finger free. Pink gemstones set into each of the top of her hands where her device primarily functioned. On each thigh a silver box, foot long, six inches wide, and six inches tall, was placed on top of the armor with the end facing her foot revealing a gattaling gun top. A visor rested over her eyes, light blue color, connected to either side over her ears with sound enhancing or killing devices.

On top of the facilities armory the helipad sat fenced in with the top three rooms of the weapons storage building on its north side. Workers rushed back and forth from the device craft placing in specialized scanning equipment and attaching extra armor for the woodland landing. Each member of Alexandria’s five chosen was waiting for their signal to board the craft. In front of the line was one of the 3 women; codenamed Ifrit. Ifrit was known for her scared, burned head. Rumors were that when she first used her device the amount of fire magic she used permanently scared the tissue on her head along with her eyes. One couldn’t tell with the way she fought that she was blind. Light charcoal skin from the fire she cast, skin and bones flesh, with a height of 5’7” gave Ifrit a sinister appearance. Her armor had a tint of red on the metal plates, and her device set in the chest piece of her barrier jacket was a crimson hue.

Constance raised her head away from the unit when the siren for their boarding went off. The landing area was setup on the west building of the facility, above the armory. Fenced off around the perimeter of the landing pad, the only two ways into or out of the fenced area was the stairway to the armory’s second floor, or the emergency ladder. The Helicopter was an old model attack. Box shape troop compartment, short wings with twin repeating, magic cannons. Dark green steel color reflecting the sun light with black glares.

Alexandria made the motion for her unit to board the craft; Ifrit was first, followed by the next, Titan. Of the five mages that accompanied Alexandria, Titan was responsible for the primary ground assaults. Another female, her head piece covered her head entirely taking on the shape of a mouth less, smooth human with a giant horn at its forehead. She was the tallest of the unit at a giant height of 7’5” with skin as yellow as sand. Much like the others, she said never a word to anyone. Rock hard muscles bulged against the tight material of the cat suit; she was a fearsome sight for anyone afraid of close quarters combat.

Boarding the vessel next was Alexandria and Constance after the first two. Constance glanced to her partner in the training division taking note of two differences in her armor; a white tint to the steel plates, and a change in the device she was using. The new device set to the center of her breast plate appeared like a tear drop. Dark blue colors swirled in the upper center of the tear drop mimicking a whirl pool. Letting Alexandria come in front of her, Constance noticed the appearance of icicles running down the spine of her armor.

After Constance and Alexandria came the Summoner Mithra. Unlike the other five, Mithra’s mask covered only his jaw allowing his rich blond hair and black eyes to be seen freely. Blond hair was messily cut swaying across his shoulders and the back of his neck. Black eyes held unusual shaped pupils in the surrounding darkness; diamond shaped and void of life. The mask wrapped around the bottom half of his head and face appeared to be made of a thick, coal colored metal. Puncture holes pieced into the front of the mask occasionally allowing the sound of heavy breathing seep through.

Next, was Siege, the units long range expert. Again, his basic uniform matched his comrades perfectly for the standard style and design; metal armor plates on vital areas, steel color, device in middle chest, and a mask. Siege’s mask consisted of a full piece that covered his head similar to masks worn for gas masks; bug eyed lenses over each eye, full covering of his scalp to the top of his dark skinned neck, and a mouth nozzle with a tube linking to a small package on the side of his waist. Siege’s weapon could devastate many armored units from a distance. A large back piece worn on his back, a rifle on the right side of it that flipped over across his shoulder to help ease and steady each shot. The shape of the weapon appeared similar to howitzer cannons only smaller. The back unit was used as a generator for the canon to build the necessary energy to destroy the most crucial of targets.

Constance took her seat besides Alexandria looking at each member of their team. She had never conversed with any of them save for Alexandria. None of them talked, they always traveled together, and they lived with in their own private barracks. Her leg raised crossing over the left with her ankle on top of her knee. Hands folded together setting onto her lap after tilting her head to Alexandria. “Where’s Fiend?” She asked listening for the familiar sounds of Fiend’s metal rubbing together.

Alexandria breathed in deeply resting her body back against the seat’s cushion. Each seat was designed with a shoulder and neck harness for emergency landings with air masks resting above them prepared to fall at a moment’s notice. “She will be here shortly.” Alexandria replied to Constance. “After this is over it’s my turn to pay for lunch, isn’t it?”

“Only if I get more points then you do.” Constance smirked at what Alexandria had said. The two had become good friends since they had begun to work together. Lunch, dinner, sparing, and even going over training material together was now a day to day activity. “Well, she’s finally here.” Constance commented raising her eyes up to the entrance of the passenger area.

Fiend stepped across the platform bringing her inside of the vessel. Braided light purple hair hung down in ten tails to her waist; daggers tied to each tip. Lining her arms and legs on the sides were circler blades attached by chain links from hole to hole; forty total. Fiend’s armor was far more chaotic with rips and tears running all across the cat suite. Each metal armor piece seemed far sharper at the edges then the other unit’s pieces. A true affection for the sharper things in life, Fiend seemed obsessed over the sight of blood. Her magic gave her the skill to telekinetically control inanimate objects and create barriers. In harsh situations, she was the first out to protect the unit, and the first into a transport.

The team was now assembled and ready to depart. The whirling blades overhead lifted the heavy armored transport into the sky. Constance glanced again at each member of the unit watching their reactions, movements, and waiting for any comments. Her mind for a moment thought back to her current assignment with the Investigation of the facility. She was certain somewhere in her mind that Alexandria had nothing to do with the disappearances but that there was something else she was involved in. What though, she was not yet aware.

Nice intro on the the Alexandria 5 (), sounds like a most dangerous bunch indeed. I like the imagery for Siege the best though

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

With more thanks to SparkZ, it is to you that I present the third of the drawn Letters- F!

Spoiler for Secret Agent Man...:

He isn't colored in, so to speak, due to his IS, Invisible Frame, which, as it suggests, allows him to conceal himself. Also, hence my unfunny spoiler title.

Once again, many thanks to you, SparkZ.

James Bond F + Sei = NAISU

Originally Posted by Saint X

- YES!!!

Nekki Basra, Sol Badguy, H***** and Rocker Atrhas in a EPIC guitar battle!

*Dies from sheer WTF Awesomeness*

*Dies along*

Lowe's Ghost: All we need to see now is a true Lyrical Magic battle

Originally Posted by Tk3997

This is my view and it’s what I am and will stick too in my own writings. Lost Logia are dangerous indeed (MORE then enough to strictly controlled for sure) but mostly in a biohazard or rouge nuclear weapon rather then “planet/universe ending threat” kind of way. At least that’s my take on it planets and universes are fucking tough, and I don’t like throwing out stuff that can affect either on a large scale willy-nilly in an attempt to make the fight seem “important” particularly when canon shows little support for them.

I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of points in your post, save for this one though. Since in Season 1, Lindy and Chrono have pointed out that entire worlds have been devastated due to the power of Lost Logia, and that the power of Lost Logia like the Jewel Seeds are capable of dislocating space-time and dimensions. So we do have some canon precedent for at least the planet and dimension devastating powers of Lost Logia.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

HOLY SHITE GL25 IS EPIC. KING KING KING KING.

Spoiler for GL 25:

KING GIGA DRILL BREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honor the man who had truly surpassed Kamina.

*moment of silence in honor of Kittan*

Originally Posted by Erio

BTW, Tk, I wonder how you view my characters. Are they over the top h4xx or whatever?

I think its time our characters got the Tk filtering treatment. I'm wondering how my OC's fare in the power level/H4XX scale

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

DBZ? I know some of us had been quite overbearing (( FlameSparkZ's demi-beings, Kha's versatility + harem power, Homunculus + Powerful Arsenal, etc )), but I don't think any of us ever crossed or intend to cross that line.

Not yet, but things can spiral out of control fast if you don't set some fairly firm limits.

Speaking of which, I would like your opinion. If you were to create a huge, powerful, believable anti-fleet weapons system within Nanohaverse limits, how would you go about it? At this point, I'm thinking something akin to the Star Forge-ish parallel with its own fleets (( Star Wars )) but I would like your input, since regardless of which, size + power is what I intend to go for with for the final part of DestinyS.

If moon is too much, then fine. I'm not all that inflexible. What would you think would be appropriate then?

Edit : A picture is worth a thousand words.

Oh, @Tk, if you're wondering, this is Star Forge that I semi-intend to parallel. Of course, minus all that Star Wars negative-infinite-force thing, and replaced with simply magic.

I'm aware of what it was I am a Star Wars freak after all.

Though this is acutally a hard question since we know so little about Nanoha space combat…

For instance we have little idea about any of the follow so far as I know.
Prolusion:
The acceleration abilities of starships are largely unknown they can maintain and break orbits at will obviously, but that merely shows they have engines roughly equal to a decent torch drive (so probably at least 4 or 5 Gs of sustained long term thrust it’s probably more but how MUCH more?) Tying into this artificial gravity is in and probably inertial dampening, but to what degree can it counter forces on the ship can it stop any force, some of them, only a few G acceleration etc.

On the FTL side how long dose it take them to transit into dimensional space, can this be blocked, dose it work in gravity wells or other odd astronomical situations. Can it be used tactically? IE a shot hop to get behind the enemy or jump away from a bad situation, or is it to slow/limited by charge time for that to work, hell is it even possible to charge the drives with tactical systems active. Is combat in dimensional space itself possible, if so how easy is it to track enemy ships inside, etc etc.

Weapons systems:
We only ever see a ship fire one weapon main gun style weapon so far as I know. So we don’t even know if they have back up weapons let alone what type and this is a huge issue. If they have little or no point defense for instance a saturation strike of long range missiles could be devastating. It seems crazy they wouldn’t have smaller secondary batteries but I’ve seen dumber designs in anime… Even assuming they have them what yields, fire rates, ranges, etc.
Defensive Systems:
How strong are their shields? Do they have an exploitable weakness such frequency, specific forms of radiation, ineffectiveness against matter, etc etc? How do the shields work do they deflect, absorb, or redirect incoming damage? Do they have a threshold below which they don’t drain, dose any impact drain them, can they be reinforced to different areas of the ship as needed ? Armor, are the ships even armored? If so what kind and how thick? What about damage control?
Power Systems:
How is power generated? Perhaps some form of magical reactor, or maybe some sort of “tap” into dimensional space, could be good old fashion fusion for all we know. Tying into this how stable is it? Meta-stable (requires active measures to keep under control) or inherently stable. Will it fail safe or fail deadly if damaged? For instance in reality if you damage a fusion reactor… it will 99.9% just stop working fusion is incredibly hard to maintain and any disruption is going to stop the reaction not massively intensify it. Anti-Matter on the other hand wants to explode at all times and much be kept from doing so, if you lost containment on it… BOOM. What some sort of energy tap or magical reactor might do is hard to say.
Electronic systems:
We have little clue what they’re sensors can really do against enemy ships in combat conditions or what sort of ECM and ECCM they might employ. How far can they see enemy ships? Are the sensors FTL, STL, a mix of both? Can they be jammed? How easily etc. What about beaming bombs and stuff is that possible? Dose jamming prevent it and if so in what radius or is it so huge it doesn’t matter. Hell can teleporters be stopped? Or could you potentially beam boarders onto enemy ships? (I doubt this, but I suppose it might not be impossible.)
Other:
Fighters? Do they have fighters, would fighters be effective? If they don’t have them but they might be would they have any kind of defense against them?

Nanoha Space Combat is nearly virgin ground it seems as we see so little of it even purposing tactics for it is difficult, never mind counter measures against it. That said I find the idea of a Star Forge Style mondo automated shipyard somewhat appealing. Something that they HAVE to take out before it ramps out or they’ll be buried under a tidal wave of enemy ships and that forces them into a giant fleet battle over and around it has potential, you might also be able to get the ground pounders involved in boarding the thing to try and disable key systems and disrupt it’s defenses while the fleet keeps the defenders occupied.

A large fleet on fleet battle is better IMO then a fleet vs. super weapon of doom battle all around as it allows for more actual tactics aside from one side just taking horrible body blows while a small group of heroes races in to try and stop the super weapon. It could help make the "extras" feel more important like they're role is really vital for the mission to work and not like they're just meat shields to distract the enemy and get blown up to fuel the heroes Righteous Angry™ while they do everything.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of points in your post, save for this one though. Since in Season 1, Lindy and Chrono have pointed out that entire worlds have been devastated due to the power of Lost Logia, and that the power of Lost Logia like the Jewel Seeds are capable of dislocating space-time and dimensions. So we do have some canon precedent for at least the planet and dimension devastating powers of Lost Logia.

"Devastated" is subjective though, a nuclear war or an asteroid strike would be “Devastating.” But it wouldn’t destroy the planet by any stretch. My stance on any talk of “devastating”,” ruining”, or “destroying” planets etc is go the conservative road and assume “planetary scale mayhem.” Not “planet explodes death start style.” Unless either shown or explicitly stated.

As I said though I tend toward a conservative low end estimate of everything rather then the most extreme high powered interpretation possible (and the low end is often much closer to the truth). The fact that all the Lost Logia we acutally see also all seem to fall WAY short of that kind of damage only reinforces that stance for me. (Jail was apparently cramming Jewel Seeds into Drones for instance and I didn't seem them nuking cites anything... Were they more powerful then average for this? Oh hell yes, world ending? Err... not exactly.) Nor dose messing with space and time instantly imply any kind of "Unlimited POWAH!!!" unless further quantified.

[haiz123321]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

HOLY SHITE GL25 IS EPIC. KING KING KING KING.

Spoiler for GL 25:

KING GIGA DRILL BREAKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Honor the man who had truly surpassed Kamina.

ORE WA DARE DA OMOTTE YARU or something like that

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Now you really showed off Cero's skills now... and damn, even with just spikes and hammers he kicks Zerg ass with lots of style! And the Ultralisk battle was one of the better Destroyer battles yet

That's only because it could soak up alot of damage

Looking back now, I realized that I left out alot of details because I was rushing to sleep, like in the last scene with the Zerglings underground. Those that were impaled above Cero had their blood rain down on him...

... Stuff like that

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Though I'll be nitpicky at the fact that the Ultralisk (that wouldn't be a Tarrasque would it?) "called" for reinforcements when the Zerg are a top to bottom hive mind

Minor nit in an awesome piece though

Hmm, you're right... I guess I was too smashed But then again, 'Ultralisk can't burrow'

And funny you should mentioned the 'Tarrasque' No, this is a 'normal' Ultralisk, but the last one behind him isn't

P.S - In case you were wondering but didn't think it was necessary to ask - I've decided to name the loli catgirls in his meido harem after colours


P.P.S - I wonder how Y** would think now

[Saint X]

@ TK

Simple: we can adopt common space combat ideas and such...

Though we so far can only see, capital ship types with one main gun with no provisions for any armor against any other threats.

As for shielding if i remember Nanoha, the Asura/Athra was hit by a powerful magic bolt from Preica that weakened the shield, and they did have some form of damage control

no space or interdimensional battles yet- so simply no ship to ship combat. no fighters, mages are not fighting against any other airborne mage- that last line was strange because we've seen a lot of air to air battles, but nothing between ship to ship so far that matches Star Wars style space combat- no mages dodging others in a hailstorm of fire- perhaps that ban on conventionals has weakened combat styles.

Power systems: some sort of bioreactor or cold fusion device?

Electronics: magical variants of RADAR might do... or something in that spectrum

[Satty]

Well, we're getting to the 10k post...[Mr. Burns]excellent...[/Mr. Burns]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Well, it's done

Spoiler for Hayate & Yui:

Unfortunately, Yui ended up a bit short

Well, here height would be somewhere between Teana's and Erio's

Too bad they haven't announced the height (three sizes too ) of the characters in StrikerS, it'd be easier to define a height of my OC characters

NAISU!!!!
Never mind the size, it looks great.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

"...Let the bodies hit the floor. (Part III) "

Summary: Continuing from the previous one several days ago... A brief look into one of the three Destroyers' combat style. As usual, more... Fitting background music to entertain the viewers, gruesome alien deaths, and finally more average-level English use to project those images for you.

Here is the dark prince himself and his solo performance !!

Background information first

Spoiler for Neo-Valmar Style:

Unlike Jeno and Lance, Cero uses a very unique style of spells, one very much different than anyone Canon in the series, though the closest resemblance is the summoners.

His spells are passed down by his clan from generations to generations. It requires alot of Magic to use hence over time, members of the clan has developed very high magical potential to meet the demands. Unlike other styles, this one also has an interesting property; the magic is so 'thick' and 'concentrated' that visible residues get left behind.

The downside to this style is that the unique magical signatures would affect the user's psychology. The bottom-line is that it blocks out the 'ego' and 'super-ego' part of the mind, causing the user to act out on their wishes and desires without any restrain.

To counter this problem, Jeno and Lance created a magical program inside of him to contain the flow of this magic within a part of his body and away from his brain. They also got Loki to program his Stain to assist in Monitoring the magic.

It's only during fights when Cero uses his magic that the effects slowly take place, as indicated by his golden colour eyes slowing turning dark purple/Indigo, and his speech would also become alot more vulgar... Cero also uses elements from Midchildan magic, by doing so it reduces the effects.

Though "purple-eyed" Cero still behaves like an S.O.B, but compared to before he's alot 'tamer' now... Sort of.

Song title:

"Forgotten"


P.S - I changed the name of the spell slightly...

Spoiler for "Somebody called for an Exterminator?":

A communication screen popped up beside Cero, who has one of his eyes closed.

"Bai? What's wrong?"

The young girl, with a long snow-white hair and cat-ears, in a maid uniform bowed respectfully on the screen.

"Forgive me your highness, but there's a slight problem with the twins that I think you should know..."

Cero chuckled, "What are Yin and Jin up to now ?"

"They made Feng cry again..."

"Uh oh... "

"Lan, Qing and Lu are doing their best to hold Hong back at the moment..."

"Hong is WAY too protective of her little sister Anything else?"

"Yes sir, Hui wants to know whether you'll be back in time for dinner. Lady Spica had just taught both her and Zi a new receipt so she wants you to try it..."

"Spica taught her? I guess it could be an interesting experience... I'll be back soon, just have to clean up this mess with the rest of the guys then we're done. "

Bai nodded, then noticed his covered eye.

With a much more concerned tone she asked, "Does it hurt?"

"It's not as bad as it looks..." Cero smiled. "I'm already used to it."

Bai looked at him silently for a moment before replying.

"Don't... Don't push yourself too hard, the other girls need you..." She voice fell to a whisper. "I need you..."

Cero was slightly taken back, but he kept his emotions.

"Don't worry, I won't..." Cero promised her. "Thank you for everything, Bai."

The young girl blushed. "T-Then I'll take my leave now, somebody's got to stop Jin and Yin from getting themselves killed..."

"Take care "

"You as well, your highness..."

The screen vanished.

Cero sighed as he opened his eye, revealing the pupil to have at least a third of itself turn from his usual golden colour, into the much darker and sinister indigo.

"Thankfully, she called after I had it under control..."

Pulling out his device "Exterminator", Cero wondered what he was just about to do before his head-maid called.

"Oh yeah! Now I remembered..." Said Cero as he raised his left foot...

Spoiler for "From the top to the bottom...":

... And smashed down on to the squirming Zergling beneath his foot, killing it instantly.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,


"From the top to the bottom!"


~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"Bottom to top I stop!"

Cero kicked up the body vertically above him, as it falls back to the ground, Cero jumped and did a spinning fan kick, propelling the body towards another zergling that was trying to pounce on him.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"At the core I’ve forgotten!"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"In the middle of my thoughts!"

The flying body slammed into the attacker and the two of them fell from the air.

They landed onto a fire-hydrant, which impaled the both of them dead center.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"Taken far from my safety!"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"The picture is there..."

From behind, another horde of Zerglings erupted from the group, this group is three times as big as the last one that tried to ambush him.

Cero looked around him, their mangled bodies and spilled blood decorated the scenery and the other wreckage around it... Painting a picture of death and destruction, an image of the consequence of going up again a Destroyer such as himself.

But such things won't sway the soulless monsters.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"The memory won’t escape me..."

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

A dark purple Midchildan Magic circle appears beneath him as he charges up that same spell that killed the last group.

It's his most commonly used spell, perfect for getting rid of pests like them.

Once the horde came within range, Cero slammed Exterminator onto the ground.

"But why should I care?!"

Exterminator: <Claw of Valmar>

Five massive 2 storey-tall black claws shot up from the ground around the horde, tearing apart the ones unfortunate enough to be directly above it. The attack stunned and surprised the entire group as they stopped in their tracks to find out what had just happened.

The five claws then close up, trapping and crushing the center group of aliens.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

" There’s a place so dark you can’t see the end
Skies cock back and shock that which can’t defend
The rain then sends dripping / an acidic question
Forcefully, the power of suggestion... "

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"Claw of Valmar!"

Cero wasted no time to press on the attack, this time he made the huge claw appear in front of him and fired the entire hing towards the enemy. The claw crashed against the frontline like a massive tidal wave and just blew them away.

Cero leaped into the crowd with astonishing speed, using his bo-staff device to knock away anyone still standing from the attack. And for good measures, kciked a few on the ground as well.

Exterminator: <Tail of Valmar>

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

" Then with the eyes shut / looking thought the rust and rot
And dust / a small spot of light floods the floor
And pours over the rusted world of pretend
The eyes ease open and its dark again. "

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

A flat-shaped black tail spirals upwards around Cero, it then moves and zig-zag around in the air, slewing as many targets within the range as it can.

Cero took this time to adjust the tight chains that binds his right arm, at the end of the chain is a shiny mirror-like pendulum, from the reflection he could tell the his one eye is nearly completely purple.

The one tail ended it's rampage by stabbing the Zergling that had sneak through and was about to pounce on Cero.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

Cero has incredible speed, even for a destroyer. His punches, kicks, and strikes using both his body and his device caught the aliens offguard.

Blood and gore splashed around him as tears through the crowd in a flurry of attacks that leave body parts in his wake.

From above, the last remaining squadron of Scourge flew down and attempted to sacrifice themselves to take out the entire block.

Holding his device like a hockey stick, Cero swing it in an upward arc motion from the ground.

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up"


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"Fangs of Valmar"

A large black 'C' shape projectile slice right through the Scourges, the explosion caused a chain reaction which detonated the entire swarm.

Exterminator: <Horn of Valmar>

Black sparks dance around the bo-staff as Cero charged another attack at the endless horde apporaching him.

Thrusting the weapon forward in their direction, Cero fired the Horn, which is shaped like a Ram's skull, at the aliens. The horn is slightly different than the fang as it is a pillar that punches through instead of slicing.

The force of the impact cleared everything in front of him.

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"Moving all around / screaming of the ups and downs
Pollution manifested in perpetual sound
The wheels go round and the sunset creeps behind
Street lamps, chain-link and concrete"


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"Damnit... This is fricking endless!!" Cero cursed as another horde could be heard charging at him.

By now his entire left eye had turned be to his original colour of purple, he could also feel his magic potential increasing by the minute. The dark black residues lying around is testament to that.

"Time to try something different..."

Cero held both hands around Exterminator and focus his magic into it.

"Tail of Valmar: Variation."

A large blade appeared at the end on the device.

Exterminator: <Glaive of Valmar>

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"A little piece of paper with a picture drawn floats
On down the street till the wind is gone
The memory now is like the picture was then
When the paper’s crumpled up it can’t be perfect again"

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"RAHHHH!"

Cero skewer five of them in one stab, he then spins himself around and around to knock away all nearby targets while fling the bodies away from the blade.

Spinning the weapon around with lethal precision, Cero hack and slash his way through the sea of cannon fodders with relative ease, leaving mountains of dismembered body parts in his wake.

He then released another Tail of Valmar to slew the zerglings that attempted to ambush him from above. Their blood drizzle onto his coat.

"Heh."

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"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

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"Claw of Valmar: Variation"

Exterminator: <Wall of Valmar>

The claws shot up from the red and black ground around him, acting as a barrier against the attackers that had gotten too close.

"Fang of Valmar: Variation"

Exterminator: <Teeth of Valmar>

Using his limited Space-distortion spell "Assasssination", Cero teleported high above them and unleashed a barriage of projectiles onto the unsuspecting Zerglings. This smaller but faster variation of the large 'Fang' quickly shred through them.

As he decends, he quickly swing his body around and knock a Zergling upwards.

"Woo ha!"

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"From the top to the bottom
Bottom to top I stop
At the core I’ve forgotten
In the middle of my thoughts
Taken far from my safety
The picture is there
The memory won’t escape me
But why should I care?"

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"Get lost!"

And kicked the poor sucker into the ground again.

Cero adjusted himself so that he'll land on top of another squirming one. Using another Claw attack, he grabbed a whole bunch of them and toss them over the skyscapers.

Walking over the corpses, Cero inspects his handiwork. All of the Zerglings are perfectly flatten, or in several different pieces scattered around the block.

"Not bad for a day's work... And the song isn't even done yet-"

A pair of massive mandibles explodes from the building behind.

"Horn of Valmar: Variation!"

Exterminator: <Hammer of Valmar>

In mid air, Cero changed the shape of the blade on Exterminator into a Hammer, he then slam it onto the hard head of the creature.

The alien is massive, with 4 huge legs and a ridiculously thick exoskeleton. Its bus-size mandible slashes the air violently as it releases a deafening roar.

"Oh shi..." Cero stared in disbelieve.

The beast focuses on him.

"HOW THE FUCK DID WE MISS AN ULTRALISK?!"

The two beasts charged at each other.

Exterminator: <Ram of Valmar>

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"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up"


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CRASH!!!

Armor meets horn and the two opponents are caught in a deadlock. But even with the added strength of the Horn's variation spell, Cero is slowly but surely losing out to the bigger and heavier Ultralisk.

"Kek-!"

The ground behind their feet cracks and break as the they pushed with all their might, until finally the Zerg prevailed and toss Cero into a concrete wall.

"Ouch..." Cero rubbed his head.

From a distance, he could see the beast charging towards him at full speed. Looking into the small mirror-like pendulum, Cero knows that his last eye is about to lose it's golden colour.

"Oh what the heck..." Sighed Cero, as he pull hard on the pendulum, losening the chains binding his right arm. He toss the long chain onto a lamp post nearby, the pendulum locked itself in a firm position, allow Cero to swing himself to safety at the last moment just when the Ultralisk crashed into the building.

The Ultralisk, for it's size, was quick to orientate itself into another charging postion. Cero stood up on the Lamp post.

"Horn of Valmar..."

Then leaped towards the target and punched his right fist dead center on it's head.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you... "


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The impact had caused the ground to encave in.

The two of them fell into an underground cavern, probably made by the Ultralisk itself. Which would explain how it avoided their visual detection.

"Fuck, so much for 'Ultralisks can't burrow'... "

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I SEE IT RIGHT THROUGH YOU!"

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As the Ultralisk struggles to recover itself, a chilling ominous aura filled the entire area.

Through the dust and debris, a dark figure rises up slowly, his eyes glowed dark purple as he staggers around trying to balance himself. His torn off right sleeve reveal a blood red almost metallic arm with a claw for his hand similiar to that of the attack he uses.

Spoiler for Something like this:

"Finally, both eyes..."

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,

Cero stomp his foot on the ground.

"I'M BACK BITCH! AND I'M FUCKING PISSED!!"

A large magic circle appear beneath him, Cero has set his magical potential to maximum output and it is overflowing the area.

"SO JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY!!!"

About twenty tails shot out of the ground and struck the Zerg.

4
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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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Had it not been for the tough exoskeleton, the Ultralisk would have been torn into pieces, but that doesn't mean that it didn't hurt.

The force of the attack slammed it through the wall of the cavern.

5
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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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Without remorse, Cero slammed his claw into the face of the creature.

"Horn of Destruction!!"

The pillar of black magic smashed point blank into the beast's head.

"Sup bitch!"

In a particularly bad mood today, Cero unleashed another wave of claws onto the dazed Ultralisk, dealing massive damage to whatever it could come into contact with, at the same time, pounding it even deeping into the wall.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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The Ultralisk called for assistance, having never faced a monster that could match it in terms of strength.

All the remaining zerglings that was left from Cero's original bloody assault came to it's aid as tons of them came tunneling through the ground, as well as leaping from the huge hole above them.

"DIE BASTARDS!!!"

Again with the tails. However, this time he made extra sure that he gotten all the little critters. His tails arc above him, impaling the ones still above him.

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"Now you got me caught in the act
You bring the thought back
I’m telling you that
I see it right through you!"

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"Trying to be funny heh?"

Cero dragged his back leg a little before swing it in an upward arc motion.

"FANG OF DESTRUCTION"

A bigger crescent-shaped projectile cut deep into the it's armor, a large crack appear as the creature howled in pain.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

Cero dash in with lightning speed.

"Claw of Destruction!"

The spell made contact with the Ultralisk's underside, knocking it high up and creating another hole in the ground above.

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"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up!"

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Cero teleported above the creature and used one of his binds around the zerg's body. Using that as the axis point, Cero ruthlessly use his speed and began attacking the helpless Ultralisk from all sides. Casting spell after spell at insane speed and point blank range.

Cero went through every Claw, Fang, Tail and Horn that he can think of until the hide exoskeleton of the Ultralisk broke apart. When that happens, he quickly swing himself to be directly above the beast.

"EXTERMINATOR!"

Cero drew his device again.

Exterminator: <Horn of->

"DESTRUCTION!!!"

Cero slammed the Bo-staff into the exposed gut of the creature as the two of them fell unsightly back into the hole they came from.

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"In the memory you’ll find me
Eyes burning up
The darkness holding me tightly
Until the sun rises up!"

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A deafening explosion could be hear when the huge beast landed back into the hole. Cero landed on top of it shortly after.

"Heh," Cero spat on the body. "Too easy..."

The Destroyer was about to jump out when he heard a deep growl behind him...

"What the fuck now?"

(To be continued...)

P.S - It's 2:30 am here, so I sort of went super fast near the end

Interesting...

Originally Posted by AImost Pure

I know, I know, my absence of updates for the story has had everyone on pins and needles. I'm sorry but for some reason I hit a rough spot on certain character ideas and I'm not quite sure I still got them how I want them, but here's another piece of Minea's diaries!

Spoiler for Minea's Diaries:

[Constance]

800 Hours

“Constance.”

“Alexandria.” The two women stood side by side waiting for their departure on the Facility’s Helipad. Each of them wore their barrier jackets readied ahead of time. For Constance, her barrier jacket was much different then the typical clothing style many mages took. It started with a navy blue jump suite separated into two pieces; a long sleeved torso shirt, and combat fatigues pants. Mechanized armor covered her jump suite from there advancing primarily her defense and agility. The armor worked to cover all vital areas with special equipment placed at her feet, joints, and hands. The gloves’ armor set mostly on the main part and left the finger free. Pink gemstones set into each of the top of her hands where her device primarily functioned. On each thigh a silver box, foot long, six inches wide, and six inches tall, was placed on top of the armor with the end facing her foot revealing a gattaling gun top. A visor rested over her eyes, light blue color, connected to either side over her ears with sound enhancing or killing devices.

On top of the facilities armory the helipad sat fenced in with the top three rooms of the weapons storage building on its north side. Workers rushed back and forth from the device craft placing in specialized scanning equipment and attaching extra armor for the woodland landing. Each member of Alexandria’s five chosen was waiting for their signal to board the craft. In front of the line was one of the 3 women; codenamed Ifrit. Ifrit was known for her scared, burned head. Rumors were that when she first used her device the amount of fire magic she used permanently scared the tissue on her head along with her eyes. One couldn’t tell with the way she fought that she was blind. Light charcoal skin from the fire she cast, skin and bones flesh, with a height of 5’7” gave Ifrit a sinister appearance. Her armor had a tint of red on the metal plates, and her device set in the chest piece of her barrier jacket was a crimson hue.

Constance raised her head away from the unit when the siren for their boarding went off. The landing area was setup on the west building of the facility, above the armory. Fenced off around the perimeter of the landing pad, the only two ways into or out of the fenced area was the stairway to the armory’s second floor, or the emergency ladder. The Helicopter was an old model attack. Box shape troop compartment, short wings with twin repeating, magic cannons. Dark green steel color reflecting the sun light with black glares.

Alexandria made the motion for her unit to board the craft; Ifrit was first, followed by the next, Titan. Of the five mages that accompanied Alexandria, Titan was responsible for the primary ground assaults. Another female, her head piece covered her head entirely taking on the shape of a mouth less, smooth human with a giant horn at its forehead. She was the tallest of the unit at a giant height of 7’5” with skin as yellow as sand. Much like the others, she said never a word to anyone. Rock hard muscles bulged against the tight material of the cat suit; she was a fearsome sight for anyone afraid of close quarters combat.

Boarding the vessel next was Alexandria and Constance after the first two. Constance glanced to her partner in the training division taking note of two differences in her armor; a white tint to the steel plates, and a change in the device she was using. The new device set to the center of her breast plate appeared like a tear drop. Dark blue colors swirled in the upper center of the tear drop mimicking a whirl pool. Letting Alexandria come in front of her, Constance noticed the appearance of icicles running down the spine of her armor.

After Constance and Alexandria came the Summoner Mithra. Unlike the other five, Mithra’s mask covered only his jaw allowing his rich blond hair and black eyes to be seen freely. Blond hair was messily cut swaying across his shoulders and the back of his neck. Black eyes held unusual shaped pupils in the surrounding darkness; diamond shaped and void of life. The mask wrapped around the bottom half of his head and face appeared to be made of a thick, coal colored metal. Puncture holes pieced into the front of the mask occasionally allowing the sound of heavy breathing seep through.

Next, was Siege, the units long range expert. Again, his basic uniform matched his comrades perfectly for the standard style and design; metal armor plates on vital areas, steel color, device in middle chest, and a mask. Siege’s mask consisted of a full piece that covered his head similar to masks worn for gas masks; bug eyed lenses over each eye, full covering of his scalp to the top of his dark skinned neck, and a mouth nozzle with a tube linking to a small package on the side of his waist. Siege’s weapon could devastate many armored units from a distance. A large back piece worn on his back, a rifle on the right side of it that flipped over across his shoulder to help ease and steady each shot. The shape of the weapon appeared similar to howitzer cannons only smaller. The back unit was used as a generator for the canon to build the necessary energy to destroy the most crucial of targets.

Constance took her seat besides Alexandria looking at each member of their team. She had never conversed with any of them save for Alexandria. None of them talked, they always traveled together, and they lived with in their own private barracks. Her leg raised crossing over the left with her ankle on top of her knee. Hands folded together setting onto her lap after tilting her head to Alexandria. “Where’s Fiend?” She asked listening for the familiar sounds of Fiend’s metal rubbing together.

Alexandria breathed in deeply resting her body back against the seat’s cushion. Each seat was designed with a shoulder and neck harness for emergency landings with air masks resting above them prepared to fall at a moment’s notice. “She will be here shortly.” Alexandria replied to Constance. “After this is over it’s my turn to pay for lunch, isn’t it?”

“Only if I get more points then you do.” Constance smirked at what Alexandria had said. The two had become good friends since they had begun to work together. Lunch, dinner, sparing, and even going over training material together was now a day to day activity. “Well, she’s finally here.” Constance commented raising her eyes up to the entrance of the passenger area.

Fiend stepped across the platform bringing her inside of the vessel. Braided light purple hair hung down in ten tails to her waist; daggers tied to each tip. Lining her arms and legs on the sides were circler blades attached by chain links from hole to hole; forty total. Fiend’s armor was far more chaotic with rips and tears running all across the cat suite. Each metal armor piece seemed far sharper at the edges then the other unit’s pieces. A true affection for the sharper things in life, Fiend seemed obsessed over the sight of blood. Her magic gave her the skill to telekinetically control inanimate objects and create barriers. In harsh situations, she was the first out to protect the unit, and the first into a transport.

The team was now assembled and ready to depart. The whirling blades overhead lifted the heavy armored transport into the sky. Constance glanced again at each member of the unit watching their reactions, movements, and waiting for any comments. Her mind for a moment thought back to her current assignment with the Investigation of the facility. She was certain somewhere in her mind that Alexandria had nothing to do with the disappearances but that there was something else she was involved in. What though, she was not yet aware.

Whoa, those five are starting to creep me out...nice chapter, though.

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

With more thanks to SparkZ, it is to you that I present the third of the drawn Letters- F!

Spoiler for Secret Agent Man...:

He isn't colored in, so to speak, due to his IS, Invisible Frame, which, as it suggests, allows him to conceal himself. Also, hence my unfunny spoiler title.

Once again, many thanks to you, SparkZ.

Another nice picture by the one and only FlameSparkZ, James F, huh

Originally Posted by Saint X

Spoiler for Project Olympus: Hermes: concept pic:

*runs*

@Night



All hail!!!

Krad?

Originally Posted by Tk3997

Mostly just the DS style boss is what did it for me aside from that I don’t have much issue with anything else you’ve done, but that boss is well… a pretty big thing in and of itself and a fairly easy example. I’ve also just never been a fan of huge super weapons to begin with either as random good guy trump cards or seemingly unstoppable (expect for one weakness) foes. I can already tell stopping this thing is probably going to involve a likely contrived series of events and a hint of deux ex machina most likely since it’s WAY outside what any of the canon stuff could logically handle in a normal fashion.

The boss itself is also just SO Far beyond ANYTHING we’ve ever seen even insinuated, the cradle was pretty large, but it’s NOTHING compared to this. Being moon sized it’s probably millions (perhaps billions if it’s a big moon) of times the volume and mass with proportional increases in required structural strength and power generation.

There is nothing scientific about any of this, not even vaguely. I’d rather you just stick with “it’s magic” then butcher good science to try and make it sound reasonable; which none of it even vaguely is. For instance simply building something the size of the Death Star that could move at even a snails pace would take materials with MILLIONS of times the yield strength of high grade steel, it’s arguable if a material of such strength is even physically possible without some kind of totally unrealistic structural integrity field or mass lightening. If it is just that strong though nothing we’ve ever seen a Nanoha Verse mage or indeed most warships do could probably even dent a blast door, a few inches of the stuff would probably resist contact nuclear detonations, never mind the actual hull.

The power generation capabilities simply to move the thing would be approaching stellar level outputs. Channeled into any kind of reasonable shield nothing in the Nanoha verse ever seen could dent that. Further even if we assume a very low density of weapons emplacements given its surface area we’re still looking at MILLIONS of heavy weapons installations quite probably hundreds of them for every ship in the attack fleet. .

Further given its sheer mass even IF you somehow got dozens of Arc-en-Ciels through to the hull and even if that hull proved vulnerable to them you’d still accomplish almost nothing, the amount of mass they could blast off it would be inconsequential, we’re taking probably fractions of a percent, and unless its reactor is on the outside or something that’s not going to do JACK. The sheer scale of something “moon sized” often seems to escape sci-fi writers (as dose scale in general) never mind the capabilities inherent to something that size even vaguely competently designed.

The “Death Star Style” boss did and still dose strike me as totally hacked and wildly outside canon. The Cradle (the supposed ship of the King) was no where near that size for instance and as you said was hyped as a match for the fleet at full power (though that’s another point I don’t think the TSAB fleet is as big as some people do I’d bet on a few hundred ships at the most). I still think blowing up a planet is also probably outside what the Nanoha-verse is reasonably capable of even with Lost Logia.

This is my view and it’s what I am and will stick too in my own writings. Lost Logia are dangerous indeed (MORE then enough to strictly controlled for sure) but mostly in a biohazard or rouge nuclear weapon rather then “planet/universe ending threat” kind of way. At least that’s my take on it planets and universes are fucking tough, and I don’t like throwing out stuff that can affect either on a large scale willy-nilly in an attempt to make the fight seem “important” particularly when canon shows little support for them.

All that said aside from this bit I haven’t seen anything really objectionable. I’d have to see the other two things used or at least their powers more detailed to make any sort of call on them, but I doubt they’re anymore “scientific”, more so since one is relying on the ever popular and totally vague, “Energy field.”


You’re past that, way past IMO. In fact you came to that line and leapt over it naked, screaming, and on FIRE.

Some try most of it and the fact you even admit to having planet wrecking potential shows how wildly outside anything hinted at you are given that no mage has even approached nuclear level in canon never mind the stellar level outputs it would take to really damage a planet. I wonder if some of you people grasp just how much power taking out a planet entails.

Here’s a quick thing to help put it in perspective Anti-matter is powerful right? In fact according to current physics it’s the most powerful energy reaction possible since it converts matter to pure energy. (but it’s also often overrated as allot of that “energy” comes out as useless neutrinos, you know the slippery little bugger that can fly though a light year of lead without hitting anything… acutally scores of them are passing right through as you read this.) Anyway, the Death Star is a pretty famous planet killer and a good example since it doesn’t use any funky reactions; it just zaps a planet with a giant ray gun and destroys it.

The power required to blow up a planet death star style is so high that powering a single shot would required a ball of anti-matter/matter at the density of uranium, 500 kilometers wide! Even simply melting the upper crust would require more power then that contained in every nuclear bomb ever built. Either of these is Millions to Billions of times the most generous energy output level possibly attributable to a mage.

Even shit that’s consider like huge like Starlight breaker is barely above MOAB level, it’s not even near nuclear range. Anyone talking about taking out cities or planets has already left canon miles behind beat up, bloodily, and unconscious in a ditch at the side of the road.

Which to me shows you might just be incapable of coming with villains that seem dangerous but aren’t ludicrously overpowered and outside anything seen it canon, so to compensate you also wank the hell out of the good guys. MORE POWAH!!!! Dose not a good or interesting story make. It also makes it rather hard to expand on it when you’ve already dealt with a potential universe ending threat… I mean many of those can there fucking be!?

AKA you’ve made up shit as an excuse to do whatever the hell you want and ignore canon power levels, limits, logic, and common sense. The fact you try to use Quantum mechanics as an excuse shows me you’re likely clueless as what that discipline acutally is. Quantum mechanics is the science of things at the most minute scales of the universe, and yes AT that most TINY of scales quantum mechanics can sometimes seem to defy classic physics, but that’s a key point at that tiny scale. (Quantum mechanics DOSE NOT SCALE) Once you enlarge the scale quantum mechanics becomes classic physics and all its annoying rules like conversation of energy and momentum, inefficiency, relativity, etc apply to you.

Classic physics is the laws and rules for the macro (above atomic) scale, quantum mechanics are the rules and laws at the micro (below atomic) scale. When the later becomes the former, or the former the later then one or the other becomes dominant, but neither is inherently “superior” as many ill informed people often assume. Quantum mechanics is a “newer science” yes but new science doesn’t obsolete older science like classical physics all it dose is explain phenomena the older science couldn’t in this case various aspects of the universe at the quantum scale that class physics has issues dealing with.

Quantum physics can’t be used to “defy” physical laws as the interactions of the various sub-atomic particles and forces at the quantum scale are ultimately what underlies and causes those laws to begin with! The rampant abuse of quantum mechanics by lazy writers without a clue what it really is pisses me off to no end.

IMPORTANT POST SCRIPT:

I don't want you to leave the thread of anything and you can go crazy like this if you want, but I also won't tolerate any attempt to say that this stuff is support by canon and not totally your own creation. That's my main point it's your universe do what you want, but don't pretend you're adhering even vaguely to canon or that this is logical extrapolation. Ultimately this to me is an intellectual dispute you seem to feel canon somewhat supports your interpretation, I don't and I'll say so. That's important this isn't even really about the merits of the story or characters (though the monstrous power level dose turn me off in that regard) it's mostly about whether any of this can be consider to be within the realm of possible canon I don't think it is, and I like to stick close to canon in terms of tech and overall power level hence my disagreement.

On that note it is also perhaps something of a debate about the direction writers and the fanon should be taking the universe post StrikerS if we go down you’re road I fear we could end up like DBZ some some new random power up every other week and tossing out energy blasts that can destroy entire planets in the crossfire. That is NOT the sort of Nanoha Fanon I want to see nor do I think it’s what the creators ever intended.

That said pulling out the "Stop disagreeing and criticizing my ideas or I’ll leave!!!" card is pretty weak.

That's a lot....as for my characters, I think I'm safe....

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Saint X

Electronics: magical variants of RADAR might do... or something in that spectrum

Magic sensors in space are probably a waste of time as even normal modern sensors can have some truly ludicrous ranges with nothing but vacumm between them and the target… I mean ranges like “See enemy starships exhaust plume near Pluto’s from Earth orbit" kind of range.

To gain a scientific base for discussion of sensors in space combat I suggest reading this.
Atomic Rockets: Sensors
If anything I’d be trying to use magic to hide myself not try and find the other guy.

[Saint X]

@ TK

read about that... well it is true... even xrays from light years away are easily detected...

but instead of using it actively, why not use passively to detect- magical battles are so 'noisy' that they light up any passive sensor screen...

- well there are passive radars now...

well, that's just my idea...

@ satty

Just the concept image...

[Tk3997]

Originally Posted by Saint X

@ TK

read about that... well it is true... even xrays from light years away are easily detected...

but instead of using it actively, why not use passively to detect- magical battles are so 'noisy' that they light up any passive sensor screen...

- well there are passive radars now...

well, that's just my idea...

Most space sensors ARE passive already they detect the heat and radiation from enemy ships, they don’t emit anything themselves as it's not needed. Using magic to detect magic would be redundant in any case though if you can see the ships, see the light show, and see all the radiation being thrown off by the magical fighting you'd already know where everyone is with just normal sensors. Magic just isn’t needed as far as sensors go in space combat.

Oh also 10k post apparently, sweet.