Macross Delta - Anime General Discussion Thread

[Bgunit]

after the current episode I can already see the rivalries and counterparts between walkure and the aerial knights:
bogue vs freyja
Keith vs mikumo
roid vs kaname
theo and xao vs makina and reina

[charles883]

What I get felling that Arad and King join the fight against final villain.

[karice67]

While most of us are waiting for episode 9, here are some recently posted interviews and things, in case people haven't seen them yet.

• Shoji Kawamori On ‘Macross Delta’ And His Hopes For The Series (by Ollie Barder on Forbes)

• Director Yasuda Kenji in developing Macross ∆ with Kawamori (part of a Bandai Channel interview translated by yours truly), and

• Ep. 9 of the radio show, where the highlight is "So which girl do you prefer?"

A little warning if you read the Bandai Channel one: there are some slight spoilers for how Delta is going to proceed there, so please head the advice I give in that post if you'd rather not be spoilt.

Far more interesting, however, is the first one, which has Kawamori sharing his views on a certain Western licensing company...

[Gravitas Free Zone]

Forbes has quite the "You're bad for using ad blockers" wall in front of its article. There is this Tweet with a relevant portion though:

https://twitter.com/Thomasintokyo/st...87382154854400

[magnuskn]

Thanks for the translation, karice. We may disagree on many aspects, but I really appreciate your hard work. Hm, I guess I'll have to look at your blog for more interesting articles. ^^

[Saint X]

Originally Posted by Gravitas Free Zone

Forbes has quite the "You're bad for using ad blockers" wall in front of its article. There is this Tweet with a relevant portion though:

https://twitter.com/Thomasintokyo/st...87382154854400

i use ublock origin and it just renders that adblock wall like what a vajra does to a fold fault.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by karice67

Far more interesting, however, is the first one, which has Kawamori sharing his views on a certain Western licensing company...

What I fond most interesting is that Kawamori is dead tired of the love triangle bullshit and wants to get rid of it, but the sponsors don't let him. I think he mentioned this like three times in the article so you can tell he feels pretty strongly about it.

Poor guy. They should just let him do what he wants for once.

[magnuskn]

Hm, yeah, no. The way he mentions it sounds much less "dead tired" than you make it out to be. You are projecting.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

The way he mentions it

Did you read the whole article? He said it more than once.

Originally Posted by magnuskn

You are projecting.

Who is the one projecting? Whether there is romance makes not much of a difference to me. Can you say the same?

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Did you read the whole article? He said it more than once.

Yes, I read the entire article. Nowhere did I feel like he was exasperated with love triangles.

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Who is the one projecting? Whether there is romance makes not much of a difference to me. Can you say the same?

I'd certainly be disappointed. However, I am not the one here trying to attribute feelings to Kawamori which are not supported by the actual text.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Yes, I read the entire article. Nowhere did I feel like he was exasperated with love triangles.

The second time he said it he does sound like he really wants to drop the love triangle thing to me. To each his own I guess.

Originally Posted by magnuskn

I'd certainly be disappointed. However, I am not the one here trying to attribute feelings to Kawamori which are not supported by the actual text.

You have your interpretation of the text. Don't claim that's a fact.

[magnuskn]

Alright, let's put the quotes on the table and see if Kawamori sounds "dead tired of the love triangle bullshit and wants to get rid of it", like you verbatim claimed a few posts ago.

Originally Posted by Kawamori-chan

“As you’d expect, the series came about based around the three main aspects that define Macross; songs, battles and a love triangle type of relationship. I normally ask the sponsors if I can drop one but they always ask to include all three.”

There is even no indication there that Kawamori is even referring specifically to the love triangle aspect of Macross.

Originally Posted by Kawamori-chan

“While the Saab 35 Draken is a delta shaped craft, the name for Macross Delta came from elsewhere. The name actually originated from the fact I had to include the three main elements from Macross, the battles, songs and a love triangle relationship, as this is something the sponsor were steadfast on having. Each time I plan for a new Macross series, I always think that it could be about time to remove one of the three elements, such as the love triangle relationship, but the sponsor always says no (laughs).”

Alright, here he mentions the love triangle as an example of what could be removed, but he specifically states that he thinks that he could remove any part of the three elements. He certainly does not seem to be "dead tired" of the triangle specifically.

And I have no idea where you saw a third mention of him wanting to drop the love triangle aspect of Macross. He mentions the love triangle of the original series, but that is in recounting the history of Macross.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Alright, here he mentions the love triangle as an example of what could be removed, but he specifically states that he thinks that he could remove any part of the three elements.

We know the original concept of Delta included battles and songs in a sort of competition club setting. So yeah, he might have mentioned the love triangle as an example, but if you put two and two together it's easy to tell that's the one thing he wasn't planning on keeping if he had a say in the matter.

[magnuskn]

Again, you're projecting.

[CrowKenobi]

Before things get too snippy, let's just leave it at a "difference of opinion" and move on (or take it to PM/VM).

Thank you.

[Bgunit]

You think messer or arad will die next episode?

[RDNexus]

Gotta wait and see, I guess.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

We know the original concept of Delta included battles and songs in a sort of competition club setting. So yeah, he might have mentioned the love triangle as an example, but if you put two and two together it's easy to tell that's the one thing he wasn't planning on keeping if he had a say in the matter.

It would be funny if the Macross with an actual triangle in the title is the one that has the least amount of love triangle in the show.

Originally Posted by Bgunit

You think messer or arad will die next episode?

I doubt either will die that soon.

Will they survive the entire show? Depends on if the show goes for a consistent "feel-good" approach, or if the show decides to amp up the drama. There are enough death flags surrounding Messer that if any named protagonist dies, he's the most likely to, imo. I'm honestly very divided on that - Could make for wonderful drama, but a big part of me would also like to see Messer/Kaname have an happy ending together.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

It would be funny if the Macross with an actual triangle in the title is the one that has the least amount of love triangle in the show.

Certainly what it looks like so far. I am not complaining, though.

- Tak

[Thess]

It's for the best. Messer's love polygon is far more interesting, IMO.

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Yes, I read the entire article. Nowhere did I feel like he was exasperated with love triangles.

IIRC, in a radio show after episode 25 of Frontier, he sounded exasperated with love triangles when people interpreted the "You're both my wings" as romantic. I could be wrong, though.