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Linux General Discussion Thread
Hello and welcome to the Linux General Discussion Thread.
As not many AnimeSuki members use Linux as their operating system/software, this thread is made to discuss and solve any possible issues regarding the Linux-Anime intersect they may have. I would personally like to ask anyone who has knowledge with Linux, whether he/she owns it or not, to keep an eye on this thread and help the fellow community members out if they are in need of it. Please, keep it clean and keep on the topic. That doesn't mean you can't talk about the news about Linux, that is actually wanted, but please, don't turn this into a chat-box. All AnimeSuki Forum rules apply. Tux, The Mascot of Linux In all his glory Last edited by Haiprbim; 2013-04-11 at 12:51. |
2013-03-05, 00:05 | Link #4 |
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-It's free.
-Many malwares that target Windows, and maybe even OS X, do not work on it. -It supports more traditional PC hardware than OS X, and maybe even Windows. -There are more varieties of Linux-based OS and they are more customizable. (Although this can also be a con in terms of perceived complexity.) Other than that, it depends on the type of software/hardware you use. |
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2013-03-05, 00:56 | Link #6 | |
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I don't want to brag, but unlike Windows and Mac that were created by companies, Linux was and is being upgraded by many, many programmers around the world, due to it beeing accessible in Open Source. It is the best for security, programming, and so on. The only thing that isn't a strong point of Linux over Windows or Mac is the usage of it around the world. While Windows and Mac are being advertised around, Linux isn't. Well, that's natural, since Microsoft and Apple get money from selling each person the Software, while Linux is totally free. Because of that, many people use Mac or Windows and for that, game companies for example only create games for the two, because they already fill in around 95% of the want-to-buy people. Also, many people out there do not have much knowledge about computers and think that Hardware is the same as Software, so they buy a computer with a Software (usually Windows) already input in it. It costs less that way as well, less than buying them separately, but more than Installing Linux instead. In short, I strongly suggest the use of Linux. Last edited by Haiprbim; 2013-05-02 at 09:56. |
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That kind of games are usually the CD-Download type. MMORPGs usually have Linux covered, as well as other Internet Downloadable games. |
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2013-03-05, 17:46 | Link #12 | |
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Examples are RuneScape or League of Legends. Yes, it is quite a rare case to see a CD-Download game to be able to run on Linux as a platform. Then again, there is not much we can do to change the fairness that companies play. |
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2013-03-05, 23:29 | Link #13 | |
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The same thing is happening in the mobile space where iOS/Android and Webkit are dominant in the OS and web rendering engine categories, respectively. |
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2013-03-06, 01:01 | Link #14 | |
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Once the game is completed, it would of course take more work and effort in order to make it available on more than just one or two platforms, and that is something that the companies are well aware of, so they don't do it. The profit from the most used Software users is already satisfying. It depends on how the game was written and its size a bit, but I can tell you that making the game possible to run on other platforms is way not as much work as creating a good game itself. Now, looking at how big the game companies are nowadays, I think I could safely say that it is Fairness we are talking about here. I know two games for example that are worldwide known, CD-Downloadable, and run on almost all platforms. That is only because the two companies releasing them truly showed that they care about the spreading, not only profit. I can also tell you that they got really positive feedback from the users regarding that. Keeping things short, game companies are big nowadays, it would only take fairness, for them to show that they care to make the games playable on multiple platforms. However, it is all about the profit nowadays, that's why we Usually don't get this. |
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2013-03-06, 03:01 | Link #16 |
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I think that with the strive to improve gaming on hardware and with new software to run it specially if it is a pc-exclusive that it would be even more work to adjust it to Linux. I always felt Linux sort of stayed behind in development compared to other platforms. I don't even know if it can run the latest directX properly. Personally putting the blame on gaming companies is easy but the OS itself requires a lot of work from their side as well. Hence why I never discuss things with Linux users in general, they constantly point the finger at others.. Don't get me wrong Linux has good points but sometimes the community is just as hard as a shell.
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2013-03-06, 07:25 | Link #18 |
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First, like monster said, directx is a proprietary Microsoft technology.
Linux won't ever run directx natively, never. What people don't understand about developing a game for Linux is that it isn't hard, it's not limiting. A game that work under Linux natively will work almost instantly under Windows. And if you develop with opengl, it will work on almost any device with a decent operating system. Developing for Linux is a chore if you develop with Microsoft proprietary technology in the first place. And for the whole "I always felt Linux sort of stayed behind in development compared to other platforms". Linux is far ahead of windows in development, security, lightness, solidity and many other area. The only thing that currently limit the gaming on linux are the game themself. The driver might not be "windows" performing, but they aren't far from there, just look at valve source game that perform really well on linux. My point, that linux is lacking is a userbase, not that it need more to be better, just that it need more to catch the eye of big developer. |
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As for the DirectX, Linux uses OpenGL, which can be even better with a good booster. It depends on your Hardware from there on. Quote:
Anyhow, the companies think that overall, the product sold would not profit the time, effort and money they put in, just to make the game run on Linux. You're right, the word that would fit better is that a company has to be "generous" enough to make a MMO run on other platforms. However, I think that it would pay off, but as I said before, there really isn't much we can do. Because is the end, "Money makes the world go around", not generosity. Quote:
Just to keep things clear, you do know that any kind of attempt to sell something that has already been added to the Linux OpenSource, even if you changed it a bit, is illegal, right? Just saying because your post isn't really clear to me. Also, there are not many users worldwide that use Linux because unlike Windows and Mac, it is not advertised massively. That is because it's main focus is not selling and profiting, unlike Microsoft's Windows and Apple's Mac, but letting people use an awesome Software for free. Now, here comes the question. If Linux is so great and free, why does such a low percentage of people use it? Again, because they know almost nothing. They know what an Internet is, but if you ask for their connection speed, they freeze. It would be that much harder for them to find out about Linux if they wouldn't be interested and wouldn't have that aim and excitement or be introduced to it. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2013-03-06 at 21:14. Reason: Please use the "edit" button to add content to your post instead of double/triple posting. |
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What is lacking is a market for paid software (games). Need more people to go on Linux and ask for mainstream game. Steam statistic show that linux is closing the gap with osx. All the humble indie bundle show that linux user pay more, that's a way to prove there is a market for low cost game. Then, if there is a market, they will look into technologies, they will find opengl, they will understand that they can easily make multiplatform game (console included) and then they will make game for Linux and they will get more sell. |
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