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2008-04-11, 10:18 | Link #263 | |
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I don't know if I've said this here or not, but I prefer Kaname over Zero as well. Partly based on looks and partly based on personality.
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2008-04-11, 10:32 | Link #264 | |
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... yes, seems rather far fetched My other thought was that she could be an artificial human/doll/something of the sort, which would tie together with the whole of ED. The problem i have with this one is that i am assuming (on no basis) that an artificially created human would be immune to vampire bite for some reason. Still begs the question why would someone create her 10 years ago and then abandon in a snowstorm (though there can be a number of circumstances for that). ... or i might be wrong. We shall see, but i am not expecting her to be a regular human.
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2008-04-11, 10:34 | Link #265 |
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Or maybe vampires don't die in sunlight in this world, as obviously Zero is showing vampire symptoms and yet not dying a horrible death. Not to mention it was still daylight right after the OP, and there's a bunch of vampires again, not dying a horrible death.
But yeah, bloodlust. lol, they'll have to explain that one. Maybe she's really a doll? I dunno lol.
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2008-04-11, 10:39 | Link #266 | |
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It doesnt seem the vampires in Vampire Knight suffer from the extrem allergic reaction to U.V. rays. But im sure it still plays a factor in their everyday life style like weakening them. It would take a awful lot for a vampire to quell or even suppress their blood lust, i mean its a part of their life its like humans having to eat we cant just shut that off.
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2008-04-11, 10:51 | Link #267 | |
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I have seen in other Japanese vampire manga and anime that it's only bright direct sunlight that affects vampires. Shade, sunset, sunrise --- indirect sunlight sources don't affect them at all or at least not as much. VK could be going with this version. But that still wouldn't explain why Yuuki can withstand direct sunlight while the other vamps can't. (Assuming that Zero in the early stages of transforming into a vamp would explain his sunlight tolerance.) Skyfall, I had forgotten you'd mentioned the bloodlust aspect. You're right. If Yuuki is a vampire, that needs to be explained as well. Yuuki as a doll is a possible theory but not as likely in my mind. I think the scenes of her a doll / marionette in the ED are more metaphorical than literal.
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2008-04-11, 10:54 | Link #269 | |
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Zero is a halfbreed (or so I would like to think) ~ he might have more resistance towards sunlight compared to normal vampires. Though really, in this universe it could be very well that all vampires don't suffer from the sun's rays (they are free to make up rules for vampires as the go along). Here's a thought. The reason why Yuki didn't turn vampire from having her blood sampled by "whatshisname" could be because vampires can choose who they want to turn into vampires? Another modern myth for vampires is that they inject their blood to the victim to turn them into vampires, maybe the sole act of sucking doesn't count.
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2008-04-11, 10:58 | Link #270 |
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That may be. I don't doubt you. The bulk of my knowledge about vampiric lore comes mostly from manga and anime which I thought had some differences from Western sources. (Prior to encountering vampires in manga & anime, I didn't read or watch much about vampires since I'm not really into them per se.)
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2008-04-11, 11:00 | Link #271 | |
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Who said I'm sharing? Darnit, it's going to have to be a three-way split for Kaname - LKK just grabbed a piece as well. Quote:
Regarding Zero transforming, it took him four years to do so? Wow, didn't know turning into a vampire has such a long lag period - or could that be due to his heritage that allowed him to resist for this long? Hmm, this is going to be one of those rare animes where 95% of the anime scenes occurs at night (at least for ones I've seen so far). XD
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2008-04-11, 12:23 | Link #273 |
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too bad i'm a guy...
while the sunlight doesn't affect them, you hear comments like "its so bright out" and "i was sleeping" during the daylight hours. so day has the effect night has on humans. like we can't see as well, and we generally get tired. (unless you're a college student..) |
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2) i assume its not a very safe idea to keep the two species together for prolonged periods of time. Kaname might be able to control himself, but what about others? Yuuki already got to feel Aido's fang (if only for a bit), and if her position as the headmaster's "daughter", Zero's close friend and Kaname's "love interest" was not enough impending danger to override his natural instincts, i don't think many things would short of direct force. And it was mentioned that this order (taking pills instead of human blood) is being "enforced" by the Pure Blood vampires (which Kaname seems to be), so many are probably not stellar about the idea to begin with. Better not to dandle a piece of ham in front of a starving lion. Quote:
Zero has been shown to have fangs, and if you look closely at the bathroom scene when he runs out you can see his eye is red as well. From what i see thats no different from any other vampire in the series. Plus the attack on his family (which is likely when he got bitten) happened several years ago. More than enough time to "complete the transformation" As for bloodlust it depends on what type the memory loss is. I think we can safely assume it was not random, thus someone is responsible for it with specific goal in mind. If she were a casual human i don't see much point, thus we can assume it was performed so she would exactly forget where she hails from. If thats the case and she indeed is a vampire, we have the possibility that whomever executed the forced amnesia might have cast a seal or something on, thus sealing away her true self, whatever that might be. To further the vampire theory - we know Zero hates vampires with passion. In the OP while she is drinking blood from the vial we see Zero in the background firing his gun in her direction. Quote:
Or i might well be crazy, who knows. But i am fairly certain that her memory loss and little hints in the OP/ED and ep1 (the bite), and even the headmaster taking her in just like that are just for the show, so something is going on. Quote:
"And consider this - if she indeed is a vampire (or a "doll"), that means the headmaster has been hiding the truth from her for various reasons (perhaps he wants her to live a normal life ? Perhaps her vampire self was so dangerous it had to be sealed? To protect herself from her past?). Now, given the environment she lives in, he must have considered the possibility of such accruing. We can also assume that all she knows about vampires as the "truth" has been told by the headmaster. If he indeed wants to conceal her true identity (be it a vampire or a "doll"), him telling her lies (to put it bluntly) to provide explanation for such situations is not unimaginable. ... or i might be completely in the left field, providing good material for the manga readers to laugh at. Who knows:"
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2008-04-11, 13:58 | Link #275 |
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I just watched the episode last night. This show is on my list to watch anime for the spring. I like the drawing and the characters so far. Why do the vampires go to school at night when the sunlight doesn't even affect them at all. I wonder what their weaknesses are?
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2008-04-11, 14:26 | Link #276 | |
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And no, vampires aren't affected by sunlight in Vampire Knight, though they are generally nocturnal. (It's not really a spoiler.) |
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2008-04-11, 14:38 | Link #277 | |
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Spoiler for For Skyfall/Not really a spoiler but will help add to your speculation.:
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2008-04-11, 15:11 | Link #278 |
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I personally wonder whether Headmaster Cross is a vampire himself. If not then how did he end up being so closely acquainted with Kaname - and possibly the Clan Family themselves? What are his connections to all this because we can clearly see that the relationship between him and Kaname appears to go a ways back - so much so that Kaname would actually trust him enough to hand Yuuki over to his care. Also, I wonder if Kaname's insistence on co-existence between vampires and humans stem from whatever happens before that snowy day - is it for Yuuki's sake? or is there another reason?
Ichichou (spelling? ) did warn Kaname that there are some vampires in the school who are "listening to others". Interesting. Plus, he also said that the others are enjoying themselves here - then where were they originally from?
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2008-04-11, 15:42 | Link #279 | |
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2008-04-11, 15:50 | Link #280 |
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I am still sketchy about what to think of Kaname. They say that it is too good to be true sometimes, and he is one of those examples. The big question is indeed what he is trying to achieve by cooperating with humans. Can I really expect him to have a heart of gold? Interesting that you thought that Cross may also be a vampire. Though I see it as unlikely as a gut feelings. But he does know a lot and is just hiding it behind that cheerful personality. Methinks sooner or later some vampire group will rebel. Then we will see what Kaname's true intentions are.
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