2013-12-20, 00:37 | Link #61 |
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I agree with this. It makes no sense for the ultimate techniques of the crew before the timeskip to be the same afterwards. Luffy's gears are a good example. Before they used to be his most powerful moves, now they're just part of his normal arsenal of techniques. Who's to say the same thing didn't happen to Sanji's Diable Jambe as well?
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2013-12-20, 09:30 | Link #62 |
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the denial is strong in this thread.
if sanji was not trying then he should never have got his leg broken in the first place. last time im going to say this. 2 people who are not trying basically in warm up mode do not get their legs broken by fodder kicks which is all vergo was throwing just casual kicks for hispower level so if sanji was not trying and vergo was not trying? how did sanji get his leg broken look at that scene - sanji leg master is aware of the fight and in full defense mode ready to defend vergos kick. so basically sanji sheild and defense was in the best mode it could have been in for kick absorbtion. so if he was not trying and vergo was not trying why did leg master have his leg broke with a force that was nothing compare to either of their full power? if a force comes nothing compareable to your training then it should not effect you. instead it broke his leg why? because compared to vergo sanji is not strong. vergo is a vice admiral and dofs right hand man so its not a big deal. you think sanji is just gonna come back vice admiral level. its the start if the new world so the guy is way stronger then he was before but has a long way to go if sanji was already va level then by the end one would expect him to be above yonko level considering he has 10 years of improvement left. people here are just overestimating the straw hats power forgetting how much longer it is until they reach full potential. I love the straw hats but you cannot d ride them like they are already the strongest pirates on the sea. Of course oda is gonna bring them back and hype them up sowing their new power but then which is about where we are now shit gets real and we find out they are on the mid level of the new world and have alot to learn. soon enough luffy will be pused to his limits aswell along with zoro,chopper,brooks,franky,nami,robin, sanji and usopp. sanji moment just came earlier then the others. Is there anyone who really thinks sanji could beat vergo or even stand a chance after he got his leg cracked from a weak fodder kick and vergo did not even bring out any real power. if vergo went full haki mode he would destroy sanji like the big bad wolf blowing down sanji straw house. vergo is known as the demon bambo which means the bamboo is his main fighting weapon he is not vergo of the kicks. so a casual kick from vergo to brake the legs of sanji who is called black leg sanji because he is kicker. so in the end a kick specialist had his leg crack from a non kicker who was not even trying at all. Last edited by Zenex; 2013-12-20 at 09:51. |
2013-12-20, 09:47 | Link #63 |
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Because Vergo's leg is hard, even if he doesn't try, and because Sanji kicks that hard leg hard, even if he doesn't try.
It's like eating soup. If you try really hard and you want to eat it as fast as possible, you are likely going to get your shirt wet, even if you try not to. But if you just casually eat your soup, while being distracted by TV or something, you don't try to avoid getting your shirt wet in the first place, which is why it's not unlikely that it'll happen again. You should eat more soup, man.
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First of all you ignore the part Oda made obvious that Sanji body was damaged
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2013-12-21, 06:42 | Link #67 |
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Guys please post the things you wanna say in ordinary term, giving block and stressed color didn't give you more attention from the other reader.
Surely we can read and we can understand what you are typing in your post.
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2013-12-21, 20:29 | Link #69 |
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Yeah, the top guys after Doflamingo were already established to be Diamante, Trebol, and Pica. I wouldn't doubt that Gladius is one of the stronger officers, though. And as much as I'd like to see Usopp face him (since he seems to be a gunslinger), it doesn't look like Gladius will be guarding the factory, but the palace. Therefore, it's more likely that someone from Luffy's group will face him instead (probably Zoro or Kinemon, though I still think that Zoro will have dibs on Pica).
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2013-12-22, 06:31 | Link #70 |
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He's number 2 - in my heart.
Diamante's design is so bland, Can't take him seriously. In fact, Looking at the Doflamingo crew, They're all rather bland looking besides Gladius. What happened to CP-9 character design quality Oda?
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2013-12-23, 04:54 | Link #74 |
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To me it seems like you're the one who's a "try hard" to deny everything. Don't we all remember the CP9 ?Where during their first encounter the CP9 looked so overpowered against Straw-Hats ?Yet when they arrived to their HQ,Luffy single handedly with no effort at all defeated Blueno and then Lucci in a major fight ? Don't you remember the way Luffy started fighting against Lucci ?Where it seemed like Luffy has no chance ? I'm 100% positive that when it comes to the monster trio,Oda won't disappoint us and in their next major fight,we might actually see something new they've learned over the 2 years.And not just "show-off" attacks. I'm not saying Sanji was stronger than Vergo or vice versa,all I'm saying is that no one can be judged based on that encounter. |
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saying sanji was not fodderized in that fight is like saying zoro was not fodderized vs mihawk. Last edited by Zenex; 2013-12-24 at 11:50. |
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2013-12-24, 14:17 | Link #77 |
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The best example of "fooderizing" is Luffy one hit-KOing Bellamy. The fight was over in an instant, after the loser was built up to be supposedly very strong. Other examples are Zoro vs Mihawk, Luffy VS Alvida and Enel VS anyone but Viper and Luffy.
Sanji vs Vergo did not have such a thing. Sanji's normal kicks were obviously weaker than Vergo's, but "fooderize" could have only been said, if Vergo's kicks instantly broke through Sanji's kick and KOed Sanji. I'd even go as far as to say that Straw Hat Pirates + Lola Pirates VS Kuma was only "fooderizing" the ones who were KOed by the blast (excluding those, who were KOed or worn out at that point in time anyway, i.e. Moria and Luffy), but not "fodderizing" those who were able to maintain consciousness.
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2013-12-24, 22:53 | Link #79 |
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Putting aside the (ugh) power level arguments for now, Oda made a little Christmas strip for OP! Credit goes to AP's Redon for the scan, and Aohige for the translation:
I wonder who would be more fitting as a Grinch in this case: Buggy, or Luffy? Edit: Looks like we've got another early Christmas present: SPOILERS! Come and get 'em! Last edited by marvelB; 2013-12-25 at 01:47. |
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