[Game] Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Ep. 2 Turn of the golden witch

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by karurai

Several questions..

Answers in bold

Spoiler for questions involving deaths and plot:

1. What is the significance of the red text?
If you talk about the "na" for the naku, it is just a writing style to enforce some effect on the word naku. it is quite relative and there isn't much solid and official interpretation

If you are talking of the red text ingame, it is just giving more gruesome feeling behind it.

2. Can anyone supply me with the riddle under Beatrice's portrait?
The river that goes through my dear hometown.
People who aim at the golden village, go down this river and search the key.
If you go down the river, soon you will be at a village
Search the shore two people at that village will refer to.
There sleeps the key to the golden village.
The people who gets the key shall begin a journey to the golden village according to what is written below.
In the first night, offer six people of the key's choice in sacrifice.
In the second night, the remaining people will tear up two people who get close.
In the third night, the remaining people will extol my honorable and noble name
In the fourth night, gouge the head and kill.
In the fifth night, gouge the chest and kill.
In the sixt night, gouge the belly and kill.
In the seventh night, gouge the knees and kill.
In the eighth night, gouge the legs and kill.
In the ninth night, the Witch will revive and nobody can survive
In the tenth night, the journey will end and you will reach the village of the gold.
The Witch will extol the wise man and grant 4 treasures.
One will be all the gold of the golden village.
One will be let all the souls of the dead be revived.
One will be make even the lost love be revived.
One will be take the Witch towards the eternal sleep.
You can sleep in peace, my beloved Witch Beatrice.

3. What role does Lambdadelta play? I don't understand why she is there.
[can't answer]

4. How do the rest of the people not stabbed by ice picks, excluding the initial 6, die? (in both episodes? Same way?)
episode 1:
-Natsuhi: killed by a gunshot on her forehead
-Maria, Jessica, George, Battler: unknown, but their corpses were turned into piece of meat. Only one piece of jaw has been identified.

can't answer for ep2

5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRXHVH4FayE&
In this link, at around 1:07, it shows all of the characters - at first, unscathed, then large blood spatters in various places of their bodies. Do the blood spatters signify how that person died?
The blood stain shows more or less how they died yes. Location of the wounds etc.

6. On the menu screen (such as.. 1:39 nearing 1:40 on that same video), what does it mean when you select "Execute"? Does it just replay the scene where the character died? What about "Resurrect"? Does it just bring them back? If a character square on the left side of the menu is tinted red, does that mean they have died? Do all of the characters have to have died for you do view this screen? If you select Tips, does it give tips about that particular character?
The characters sheets only give a description of the said character, which is updated when they die (sometimes, it is a comment most likely done by beatrice).
Execute permits you to "kill" them in the tips menu, so you can read what the description was when they are killed. Ressurect just make them "alive" to see the former status.

Tips is another category of things, just like higurashi, you can read the few clues the characters bumped on, such like beatrice's letters, etc.

7. What is "tsurupettan"? I have heard about a word "mojipittan" being related to a song which kept being related to Suzumiya Haruhi.....
It is related to Tsuru pettan (Silver Forest) song. that's just a meme.

8. Is the only letter signed by Beatrice the one that Maria receives?
No, there are several of them

9. How many people are on the island? I have repeatedly heard 18, but I only see 16 character squares on the menu(?). Aforementioned servants?
huh? no they are 18:
Family Members (12): Kinzo, Krauss, Natsuhi, Jessica, Eva, Hideyoshi, George, Rudolf, Kyrie, Battler, Rosa, Maria.
Servants (6): Shannon, Kannon, Gohda, Kumasawa, Genji, Nanjo

Of course, we cannot be sure if there is really 18 people, since there might be a 19th (the culprit? beatrice?) or even more.

10. So, the humanized furniture are coat-rack-type-furniture that look like young girls that come alive and kill people? Or are they regular coat-rack-type-furniture that come alive and turn into young girls?
Second answer I believe.

11. What is the significance of the butterflies?
They are the manifestation of Beatrice in the real world. However, their presence is a mystery itself. it might confirm Beatrice's existence or confirm she is a slander.

It will be revealed later most likely.

12. So Kanon was pronounced dead, then he came back?..
Can't answer accurately. But if you refer to kanon's stunts in the video, it might be the usual cheesy thing, where the character is seen cut, but in fact, it is a mere image and the true body was elsewhere. That's just a guess.

13. Why is there Shotgun Natsuhi and then suddenly Rosa is the one with the Shotgun? Is Natsuhi and Shotgun Natsuhi as well as Rosa and Shotgun Rosa two different people or two different personalities in one person? .. Or just same person same personality with a shotgun?
Shotgun Natsuhi is the one in episode 1.
Rosa is the person who carries the shotgun in episode 2.

14. Natsuhi's shotgun simply used in her death (or was there other cases where she used shotgun?). What was Rosa's shotgun purpose?
Can't answer.

15. So everyone died in both episodes?
If we suppose that the culprit wasn't among the 18 persons, yes all of them are killed in episode 1.

Can't answer for episode 2, but most likely the same aftermath

*sigh* I think i will try to challenge my recklessness and try out episode 2 without a translation at this rate (though Shotgun rosa looks like a turn off )

[theacefrehley]

The red text he is talking is about is this:

In episode 2, Battler and Beatrice once in a while appear in the middle of the game (like spectators of a movie) and make comments about the incidents, each one trying to prove his point of view (criminal, witches, 19th person, whatever).

To give a chance to Battler, Beatrice makes a "deal"
Everything she "says" in red color, is true without a doubt.
So we can deduce that what is not in red (normal white), may be true or not.

[Rias]

Shotgun Rosa is a much more likeable character than in Ep1...also has quite a few good quotes.

[Mauru]

Does anybody know if this game is compatible with vista? because my brother bought it and it does not function in our laptop wish has, vista, of course.

[theacefrehley]

If I remember correctly, somewhere on the oficial site, it says it works on Vista

However, I already saw a lot of bitching about sound novels on Windows Vista (with other games, in other forums)

[Koopen]

I'm sorry that I'm asking again but I really want to play this game....

I have my copy of Umineko but it won't play on Vista, I try playing the game on a Windows XP computer and I have the same problems

Those that have play the game, how did you guys installed it? Play it?
Do I need to install Japanese fonts on my computer?
I've tried that "Changing the language" thing but still doesn't work!

Please I need help! I really want to play this game -___-

[theacefrehley]

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=60120

There are some games that work even without japanese settings
But just in case, it's best to do these configurations

[Nabiki Asakura]

Bah, no one told me about Jessica and Kanon _ _'


again: Nabiki can't read japanese, so, i just can see the scenes. So, i can see Kanon and Jessica, but i can't understand anything in ep. 2. can someone PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, tell me about the scenes with the two?._.

[Sterling01]

Umineko cosplay

[Sterling01]

I was just at the Poisson Rouge website and this caught my attention

[Nabiki Asakura]

Hey I was wondering how long each of the different story arcs are?

[Sterling01]

Kanon knows how to treat a woman... dash her hopes right in front of her.

BTW what year do these event's actualy take place.

[theacefrehley]

Without much spoilers

Since there's all that okinawa stuff (to me okinawa = summer), we could say it's somewhere between summer of that year (1983), like july and the family meeting, october.
Since George says something like 'NEXT family meeting I'll give the ring', and in fact, that's what happens later, it's 1983....

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Edit:

haahaha

sorry

Replace 1983 for 1986, on the post above

[Rias]

Umineko takes place in 1986.

Although there's no clear indication as to when it happened, I agree with theacefrehley. Also, since Okinawa trip happened before school festival (Shannon talks to Jessica about that before talking about getting Kannon to go to the school festival), and school festival should be the same year of THE family meeting (they talked about that during one of the early chapter).

The mirror in the shrine scene can really take place anytime before summer of 1986.

[Sterling01]

That's what I thought...

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by crazysjd89

Also, I'm on chapter 13 on volume 2, and it so far has pretty much put all my previous theories into a blender, poured in milk, set it to high, blended for 5 minutes, and then drank it.

Beatrice likes doing that to people

[Sterling01]

There's one thing I don't understand,

Spoiler for EP 2:

Is the Battler that's playing a game with Beatrice and comments on what's happening in EP2 already in the Golden Village? Since he was the one who "survived" EP1's Teaparty.

[theacefrehley]

I take that as those 'comments of the director' tracks on some DVD's

Like an alternative/parallel universe that has no contact with the main story
And they say nothing about golden village and such...
Maybe they'll say something about it in future episodes (I don't think so...) but there's nothing solid for now

And that ep1 tea party can't be taken seriously, really
They talk like actors who just shot a movie

[Klashikari]

I agree, it is really like a "What if", pretty similar to the "otsukare party" from Higurashi.
It is interesting to see how the characters would react if they were in "our" place.

[chronotrig]

I doubt that the tea parties are completely outside the story. The When They Cry series has always been best when it hides the true story behind several false ones, which is why they were able to write 8 games in Higurashi which, in the end, were all based on the same scenario. The problem is that now, all of the fans expect the unexpected. ryuukishi07 needs to think of a new twist completely different from the previous ones, and he can't afford to waste material. For me, the proof is that he choose to make the ???? from episode 1 unhidden in episode 2. I think the more interesting way to look at it isn't whether or not the tea parties were "real," but what it implies for the story if they are real. Same thing with the Higurashi references, although tsurupettan was so ridiculous that I'm not so sure anymore. Still, don't forget how we were introduced to Fredrica with the poems.