2009-06-18, 09:01 | Link #20201 |
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i said cut it out becouse sarcasem is a way to DEFLECT questions
not answer them and i dont think either kallen or suzaku would WANT to start a romantic relatioship i think it is something that would grow out of a different sort of relatioship between them (UST, the great motivator) but what ever good luck in history class
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2009-06-18, 09:03 | Link #20202 | |
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And again, you seem to avoid IT, when i do say, that you discard GinoKare in the future, while you accept Kallezaku. Hum, i wonder why that is. Maybe because it is indeed, you got double-standards and you do not want to admit that. |
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2009-06-18, 09:05 | Link #20203 |
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but i just told you EXACTLY why i dont think kagino is likely to happen
i dont JUST write it out and i dont avoid it i explain WHY i write it out why do you think its likely reasons please not just "anything could happen" why would kallen's opinion change towards gino (given that she is shown to dislike his attempts)
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2009-06-18, 09:09 | Link #20204 | |
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It is not likely to happen. And Kallezaku is not likely to happen either. You use your if-scenario, that Suzaku might break out a bit, and Kallen will be there to help him. So you use an "if" inside an "if." I just follow the trend to show you, that "if", can lead everyone to everything. But it will ultimately go against canon. And it will go, no matter what you say, about "i think it will not" , cause yeah, it will. Good for fanworks and stuff, but not for anything else. |
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2009-06-18, 09:15 | Link #20206 | |
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School can wait for 5 mins, i am just trying to bring down your argument. I always have to win. 8D At least admit, you are being double-stanadrd-ery. You saw last PD, Kallen is fine, Zerozaku is fine. Unless your if-scenario happens, then there is no if-chance between them. |
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2009-06-18, 09:18 | Link #20207 |
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i wont admit to the double standerd one (if you always have to win, i never admit total defeat )
but i will admit to the other part Unless my if-scenario happens, then there is no chance between them. whetehr or not you think that such a scenario is likely or not thats another topic
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2009-06-18, 09:21 | Link #20208 | |
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Still score for me! Spin-on, my winning drill, haha. So, we did settle an in-peace, with my rule and terms, yep, sounds like me and about right. |D And now, i really have to go, but come on, i mostly did this cause i have observed you are a sucker for debating, have to give you bones when i can. It can be boring in work, if you got no amusing-debating-sessions. I am a good, altruistic person deep down. 8) |
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2009-06-18, 15:01 | Link #20210 |
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Whew Lots of things happened when I fell asleep.
I'll say this I'm not as dedicated to this Suzaku Kallen thing as Blade is. I do think Kallen will be eternal widowed. It's more in character for her, as Suzaku's Zero path is for him. That being said I don't find Blade's idea unreasonable though I acknowledge the difficulty of it. I will also admit this appeals to me more from a writer's perspective then something strictly in the show's universe. Here a little a bit of TL;DR that I'm putting out there. Spoiler for Wall text:
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2009-06-18, 15:10 | Link #20211 |
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you put what i was kinda going for VERY nicely
and i would just add that kallen and suzaku were both promoting different views on how to do things but they were both ultimately trying to do the same thing and thats also a bond they share they spent years trying to improve the lives of the japanese people they just had to do it with knightmares instead of cellphones
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2009-06-18, 15:52 | Link #20213 |
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putting aside the age thing
none of them know about the truth about lelouch (all view him as an evil basterd) edit: and why are half the people on this thread invisible there are like 6 members and only 3 visible whats up with the stealth
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2009-06-18, 15:55 | Link #20214 | |
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So, then you mean, that Kallen would like for someone to know the truth about Lelouch. For what? I suspect to have a chit-chat with that someone, about how the man she loved had a nice and deep heart inside despite popular belief. And then, after the chit-chat about the man she used to love, they would proceed for rabu-rabu. Yep, totally working. |DD eta: there, things i do for you. 8) |
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2009-06-18, 15:59 | Link #20215 |
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i said its PART of the reason
there is also the age thing and the fact that they betrayed lelouch after all he did for them (and almost killed her for trying to defend him) the fact that they dont know the truth about lelouch may not HAVE to be a point AGAINST them but its a HUGH point in suzaku's favor he can understand what she's going through better then anyone else (given what happened with euphie) and thank you
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2009-06-18, 16:02 | Link #20216 | |
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Suzaku's favor? Alright, i can get that. But again, it is not like Suzaku is aiming for Kallen-wuv-me. The only "if" that could be raised, was in your "ifx2" scenario of yours. Kallen could actually fall for random passenger #48454, in the future? Sounds off? Oh, screw me i know, but future = endless possibilities. {sorry, can't help it. 8D} |
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2009-06-18, 16:18 | Link #20217 |
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your right about suzaku not AIMING for kallen
and kallen is even LESS likely to aim at ANYONE (suzaku included) there are several IF's that could be raised about what could or couldnt happen but the main point about my IF's is basiclly this the number of people on earth who suzaku could possibly talk to as himself is pretty much limited to nunnaly and kallen and i dont think nunnaly would allow him to just give up on kallen as a potential friend given that she's the only one he is ever likely to HAVE (aside from nunnaly herself of course) so i think she'll at least try to get the two of them speaking again and since they dont actually HAVE any real reason NOT to be friends again, and would infact both BENIFIT from such a friendship i think she'd probably succeed in getting them to reconcile and become friends again given that assumpsion IF (this is it) suzaku is ever in a state of depression which is LIKELY to happen at some point, he's only human and he can have bad days, or feel sick or tired, or make mistakes IF he is ever in a state of depression and kallen picks up on that fact she is more likely (IMO) to get him to open up and tell her whats wrong then nunnaly is for the simple reason that she is JUST AS STUBBORN AS HE IS and she is not above using force when the time calls for it IF he DOES come to be able to talk to her about his problems, then she could end up as an emotional support for him from THAT point, i leave the rest to a mix of UST and mutual admiration that they have for each other it could happen or it wont but my point is that its at least possible and i think that everything other then the bolded part is actually LIKELY to happen
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