Nanoha - Image Thread (wallpapers, fan art, gifs, etc.)

[Demi.]

She's wearing shoes, how can you be sure of such deformities. Although putting that aside, feet are the hardest body part to draw, so they usually end up looking like crap.

[Craxuan]

Actually, those are shoes and not feet. Totally different. ^_^

[Ithekro]

I believe the complaint is about how she's standing, not the artwork. The toes inward at about 40 degrees as oppose to straight forward or about the same in the outward direction. It is a typical artist pose to have women (expecially younger ones) with their feet pointed like that..also usually with their knees touching.

Also it seems to be something Japanese women do. Partly to look cute and possibly because of a mix of genetics and that they have a tendencey to sit on their knees a lot of the time.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

^ To be fair the image looks like it's after a battle so Stern didn't have the need to be in a "fight stance".

Well the thing is: her upper body pose says "I just kicked your butt" while her lower body and legs say "I am so cute, please don't hurt me".

Originally Posted by Ithekro

I believe the complaint is about how she's standing, not the artwork. The toes inward at about 40 degrees as oppose to straight forward or about the same in the outward direction. It is a typical artist pose to have women (expecially younger ones) with their feet pointed like that..also usually with their knees touching.

Thank you. Furthermore, standing with your toes pointing inward reduces the (already small for us bipedals) base of support under your center of mass, consequentially reducing your balance. While this is most important for ground melee fighters, it's just unfeasible that a badass character like Seikou would ignore it.

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

Well the thing is: her upper body pose says "I just kicked your butt" while her lower body and legs say "I am so cute, please don't hurt me".

LOL!

I remeber loli Nanoha adopting a similar stance a couple of times but rarely during a fight.

...it also bring me back memories of Nanoha's "girly running" when she was a kid xD

[Mr Coin]

Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

That image would have been epic if not for that godawful pigeon toe. =__= Why do all the anime artists believe so fervently that being a woman automatically gives you feet deformities? Seiko is a combat mage, goddamn it, and that's not a stance a fighter should stand in![/rant]



My guess? Folks here are yearning for moderator attention.

EDIT: Page claim for badass women who fight in a proper stance instead of mimicking the allegedly cutesy pigeon toes.

Ha! I was yelling 'what the heck is wrong with the women in this country' when I went to Japan for a little visit.

I can come up of two reasons why is Seiko pigeon-toe'd.

1) The one who drew this did it for the sake of moe. In Japan, they believe that walking with your toes inward is considered 'cute' and 'feminine'. Back in the day when people still wear kimono. If you walk normally, the kimono will give away(Yes, Legs!) and for modesty people began to walk pigeon toe'd.

2) Practicing seiza can bring malformation to the legs.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Mr Coin

2) Practicing seiza can bring malformation to the legs.

As if Seikou and the rest were created for the purpose of sitting in seiza all the time. I am ticked off by character derailment in fanart more than the allegedly cute/feminine foot deformities.

[Tiresias]

It's hilarious how people protest about characters doing improbable poses yet are fine with weapons having improbable, impractical, uncomfortable, unwieldy, and/or bulky are-you-sure-you're-not-compensating-for-anything designs

But yes, I agree that the pose diminished the enjoyability of that image. All I can think of is how uncomfortable that must be

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

It's hilarious how people protest about characters doing improbable poses yet are fine with weapons having improbable, impractical, uncomfortable, unwieldy, and/or bulky are-you-sure-you're-not-compensating-for-anything designs

Weapons can be explained with magic. Human body can't (at least not in this setting).

[Tiresias]

Except that absurd weapon designs would result in unnatural stances or postures to wield them, thus indirectly affecting the human body

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Except that absurd weapon designs would result in unnatural stances or postures to wield them, thus indirectly affecting the human body

From the same artist.



Just to balance out the genders.

Cheers.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Except that absurd weapon designs would result in unnatural stances or postures to wield them, thus indirectly affecting the human body

I don't see how any kind of weapon except some weird magnetized shoes could give a person pigeon toes.

How uncool.

Originally Posted by Skane

From the same artist.



Just to balance out the genders.

Cheers.

Now, that is manly. :3

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

Weapons can be explained with magic. Human body can't (at least not in this setting).

Faming scythes make crappy weapons, be they magic or not. Rocket powered warhammers sound nice in theory, but given the human bodies reaction to consistent turning and the effect of jerky movements on accuracy not practical. Teana s gun with magical blades positioned so they´ll stab her own arm before the enemy aren´t the height of functionality either. Then there's the whole rolerblade thing, which is frankly-

*Keroko is bound and gagged before he can continue rambling*

[Sunder the Gold]

Originally Posted by Demi.

It doesn't really matter which character seems stronger on paper. Titular character armor is always going to have Nanoha coming out on top.

Of course. Wasn't questioning that.

[Tiresias]

Originally Posted by Koveras Alvane

I don't see how any kind of weapon except some weird magnetized shoes could give a person pigeon toes.

Maybe not pigeon toes, per se. But holding weapons this big in this upside down manner


will strain the arms, even slowly deform them into a bent mess. That's before worrying about recoil

But hey, at least the damage would be symmetrical. This, however,


only burden the left side, so the users would end up looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame - their left side would be of lower elevation than the right.

Seriously, whoever the weapons artist for Force is, they're clearly compensating for something . At least most pre-Force are normal sized. Most.

Speaking of which,


why would anyone think that decorating their sword with spikes pointed towards them is a good idea?

Frankly, seeing these absurd designs gives me the same uncomfortable feeling as seeing Seiko's pigeon toes And at least that picture of Seiko can be enjoyed again by cropping the bottom, uncomfortable part.

[Akiyoshi]

^ Maybe the weapons are made like that to ephazise the Huckebein's superhuman status? Like "we can use this ridiculous weapons because we're stronger, faster and skilled than you!",

Arguably most Eclipse Drivers have some sort of super strenght and super resilence which now we know it varies from Driver to Driver(Cypha treats having her arm sliced like no big deal while Dego reacted in a far more conventional fashion after Veyron ripped his arm off), those combined with their viral aggressiveness let them to be able to hold those weapons proficently.

[Justin_Brett]

Somehow I don't think people with constant, quick regeneration will ever have to worry about arm or bone strain.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

But hey, at least the damage would be symmetrical. This, however,


only burden the left side, so the users would end up looking like the hunchback of Notre Dame - their left side would be of lower elevation than the right.

Unless the thing can float or at least keep part of its weight suspended in the air on its own, just like RH on the same pic.

[itanshi1]

Her left arm is strong :3

[00-Raiser]

She is left handed, after all.

We really need a general thread to put all this random discussion in.