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Rion · 2009-03-09, 18:49

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Originally Posted by oneplusme

(While I'm at it, huge thanks to Hox, whoever you may be, for picking up the scanlations. Very much appreciated!)

Yes, indeed. I can't be grateful enough for that.

oneplusme · 2009-03-10, 01:22

Is anyone else having annoying 404 issues with chapter 58?

Spoiler for Chapter 59:

oneplusme · 2009-03-10, 08:05

To answer my own question...

Spoiler for Chapter 59 speculation:

Diedrupo · 2009-03-10, 12:08

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Originally Posted by oneplusme

To answer my own question...

Spoiler for Chapter 59 speculation:

Unfortunately chapter 60 doesn't shed any new light on it, they completely bypass that and move on to different things.

Luco · 2009-03-11, 21:47

Well, as it turns out I'll be releasing MQ/HQ scans still, with Hox's trans. Tsuru, drop by IRC.

Proto · 2009-03-12, 08:08

Thanks to Hox and the editors who picked up his script. I appreciate you continuing this series

As for the manga itself: Kito does enjoy torturing his characters eh... :'( It's almost sadistic to what point they have to suffer.

Rion · 2009-03-14, 04:17

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Originally Posted by Luco

Well, as it turns out I'll be releasing MQ/HQ scans still, with Hox's trans. Tsuru, drop by IRC.

Seriously. Is it really necessary to "oversub" (or rather overscanlate) Bokurano like this, especially since you don't have your own translations and are just following somebody else's releases? Perhaps Hox' work is not perfect, but I appreciate it a lot and personally I find it very rude to re-use other people's scanlations without asking at all for doing... exactly the same thing: scanlating a series. In the fansubbing world and even more so in the scanlation world, it's considered a rather lame thing to do.

At least get your own translations. Otherwise, I would be happy if you'd drop the series and leave it to others who can actually translate. Not to mention that I don't think you can reach Mangascreener's editing so quickly either.

Thank God everything by Mohiro Kitoh except Bokurano and his new (ongoing?) series is now fully scanlated.

Luco · 2009-03-16, 16:47

Ok Rion, I see what your saying.

First, I spoke with Hox and first offered to help him scanlate on his releases. He turned me down, and I was ok with that. Second, he said that he was fine with me using his translations, so I do have his permission. And my releases will be slow if ever released, so it's not as serious business as you think. And sorry if a few peoples work isn't up to scratch with one of the oldest scanlation groups around. Eh, I'll probably give up if that's the way people feel.

Renan · 2009-03-19, 20:11

No Luco! You will not give up! Don't believe in yourself! Believe in me who believes in you! If you don't scanlate Bokurano then who will!? You are our only hope! Don't listen to those nay sayers! Do what your heart tells you and scanlate Bokurano with your drill!

Rion · 2009-03-20, 12:40

Hey Luco, I think it's great that you went to ask permission. That gets the most problematic thing out of the way. At this point, of course it's up to you whether you want to continue doing this, and if others want to support you in this endeavor, they totally can.

By the way, I don't know that much about Mangascreener, but it's not like 10 people work on a project there and not everyone of them is a 5 year veteran. As far as I know, Bokurano was a project which was pushed by perhaps 2 people and mainly worked on by those two, who, by the way, also had a lot of other projects running. There is no reason for you to feel sorry about not be able to reach those editing skills, it's just that I see no reason why anyone would need another group's work on Bokurano unless it looks as astounishing as Mangascreener's releases. (And don't worry, their releases looked crap as hell when they just started, especially the shoujo stuff. It's only later that they became very, very aware of editing quality - to the point of pissing their editors off.) And if your releases are also slow on top of that, why bother? It's not about "giving up" or anything, unlike Simon and Kamina, it's not like you are fighting anyone. It's about whether it's worth it for anybody, and whether it is an appropriate thing to do. When I think about how many great series are left unscanlated (and there are tons! There is even Mohiro Kitoh's newest series), it's saddening when you see people doing double work when they could use their time and skills on other things.

Renan · 2009-03-20, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Rion

Hey Luco, I think it's great that you went to ask permission. That gets the most problematic thing out of the way. At this point, of course it's up to you whether you want to continue doing this, and if others want to support you in this endeavor, they totally can.

By the way, I don't know that much about Mangascreener, but it's not like 10 people work on a project there and not everyone of them is a 5 year veteran. As far as I know, Bokurano was a project which was pushed by perhaps 2 people and mainly worked on by those two, who, by the way, also had a lot of other projects running. There is no reason for you to feel sorry about not be able to reach those editing skills, it's just that I see no reason why anyone would need another group's work on Bokurano unless it looks as astounishing as Mangascreener's releases. (And don't worry, their releases looked crap as hell when they just started, especially the shoujo stuff. It's only later that they became very, very aware of editing quality - to the point of pissing their editors off.) And if your releases are also slow on top of that, why bother? It's not about "giving up" or anything, unlike Simon and Kamina, it's not like you are fighting anyone. It's about whether it's worth it for anybody, and whether it is an appropriate thing to do. When I think about how many great series are left unscanlated (and there are tons! There is even Mohiro Kitoh's newest series), it's saddening when you see people doing double work when they could use their time and skills on other things.

I think I just got owned in a sence.

MikoGalatea · 2009-03-20, 15:36

I'm just glad someone finally did continue scanslations for Bokurano. Come to think of it, though, I haven't seen any raws since chapter 60, at least not on the usual source; shouldn't Japan be on ch62 or 63 by now?

Oh, and Rion? What's this new Kitoh series you're talking about? I haven't heard anything about it before, and I'm really curious.

Rion · 2009-03-20, 16:33

Yeah, I think the most recent one is chapter 62, but 63 should be out soon, or something like that?

I'm sorry that I was a little misleading, the 'series' I was talking about is "Owari to Hajimari no Mairusu", serialized in Manga Erotics F and I'm still not sure if it's ongoing or a one-shot. By the way, wow, it's scanlated in French. YAY! I have to get it quickly before it gets licensed (who knows, this is France we are speaking about, they license everything).

Here's a picture of the cover:

Renan · 2009-03-20, 17:32

...What in the world is that?

oneplusme · 2009-03-21, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Renan

...What in the world is that?

No idea, but the pattern on the mask looks remarkably similar to Zearth's faceplate...

Renan · 2009-03-23, 16:56

That's not the french Bokurano is it?

Selo · 2009-04-05, 14:23

^ No, no, that's the new series (or I suppose it's ongoing) that Kitoh is doing now... does anyone know what it's about? Or if it's any good? This is Kitoh, so it's going to catch my attention no matter what, but I'm assuming it's much too early for anyone to want to pick up scanslations or whatever. I haven't even been able to find a place to get the French versions yet.

Back on the topic of Bokurano, though! I'm on chapter 57 at the moment, and I don't know if the current scanslations going around go past 60, which is the latest one I'm seeing. I get my stuff from MangaFox though, so I don't even know how slow that is. Again, much love to Hox for taking up the latest chapters <3

I didn't watch the anime, so all the similarities/differences in the later manga plots aren't really affecting me, though I don't want a sugary-happy ending. I doubt we'll get one like some people fear, and I'm enjoying the events as of late.

Spoiler for Chapters 55+:

tsurumaru · 2009-04-05, 16:12

Incidentally I haven't seen raws released for beyond chapter 60 yet and as far as I can ascertain Chapter 64 will be the final chapter!

Bijoux · 2009-04-06, 19:26

I've been reading this manga for so long that I "almost" don't want it to end. If that makes any sense with the poltline. The last few chapers have been awesome. Just to put this out there, and I don't know if this was mentioned before, but a nice person going by the name Onkr finished translating Hallucination from the Womb. Here's hoping that someone picks up Owari to Hajimari no Mairusu. Or that the oneshot Kare no Satsujin Keikaku gets scanlated. I found the raws somewhere, but since I can only read kana at the moment, I can't understand the dialogue. It's nice to look at though.

Edit: A mistake on my part. I just checked the Bakaupdates page for Kare no Satsujin Keikaku, and apparently the group Village Idiot scanlated it around 85 days ago. This is what I get for putting things on the wish list rather than on the reading list...

Renan · 2009-04-23, 16:44

So I'm guessing we can put Bokurano back in the dead category again right?

2009-03-10, 01:22	Link #542
oneplusme Simoun-Fans Editor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK	Is anyone else having annoying 404 issues with chapter 58? Spoiler for Chapter 59: Also, where on earth did other-Machi come from? Is Dung Beetle supposed to have re-created her from the point at which they arrived on Earth (hence the clothes and her not knowing it was winter)? I thought he explained ages back that he couldn't create living beings.

2009-03-10, 08:05	Link #543
oneplusme Simoun-Fans Editor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK	To answer my own question... Spoiler for Chapter 59 speculation: I suppose the only theory which makes sense is that Machi and Dung Beetle must have intercepted the Machi from Jun's world on the way to the summer camp and held her in some form of suspended animation from that point on. It'd explain the change of clothes and her failure to realise it's winter, at least. In which case, she's about to discover six months of her life missing... Of course, that's a heck of a handwave if the author doesn't bother to explain it for himself at least a little. Hopefully chapter 60 will enlighten us somewhat.

2009-03-12, 08:08	Link #546
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Thanks to Hox and the editors who picked up his script. I appreciate you continuing this series As for the manga itself: Kito does enjoy torturing his characters eh... :'( It's almost sadistic to what point they have to suffer. __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2009-04-05, 14:23	Link #557
Selo Lost Cause Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MD, United States Age: 30	^ No, no, that's the new series (or I suppose it's ongoing) that Kitoh is doing now... does anyone know what it's about? Or if it's any good? This is Kitoh, so it's going to catch my attention no matter what, but I'm assuming it's much too early for anyone to want to pick up scanslations or whatever. I haven't even been able to find a place to get the French versions yet. Back on the topic of Bokurano, though! I'm on chapter 57 at the moment, and I don't know if the current scanslations going around go past 60, which is the latest one I'm seeing. I get my stuff from MangaFox though, so I don't even know how slow that is. Again, much love to Hox for taking up the latest chapters <3 I didn't watch the anime, so all the similarities/differences in the later manga plots aren't really affecting me, though I don't want a sugary-happy ending. I doubt we'll get one like some people fear, and I'm enjoying the events as of late. Spoiler for Chapters 55+: But since there are only two kids left, it feels so lonely. Everything is very stark and empty; the exact opposite of the giant cast we started with. It's so hard to think how we're down to the very last kids - it always feels like there's something missing now.

2009-04-06, 19:26	Link #559
Bijoux Alien Symbiote: Borg Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 33	I've been reading this manga for so long that I "almost" don't want it to end. If that makes any sense with the poltline. The last few chapers have been awesome. Just to put this out there, and I don't know if this was mentioned before, but a nice person going by the name Onkr finished translating Hallucination from the Womb. Here's hoping that someone picks up Owari to Hajimari no Mairusu. Or that the oneshot Kare no Satsujin Keikaku gets scanlated. I found the raws somewhere, but since I can only read kana at the moment, I can't understand the dialogue. It's nice to look at though. Edit: A mistake on my part. I just checked the Bakaupdates page for Kare no Satsujin Keikaku, and apparently the group Village Idiot scanlated it around 85 days ago. This is what I get for putting things on the wish list rather than on the reading list... Last edited by Bijoux; 2009-04-06 at 20:30. Reason: Corrected mistake

2009-03-11, 21:47	Link #545
Luco Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia	Well, as it turns out I'll be releasing MQ/HQ scans still, with Hox's trans. Tsuru, drop by IRC.

2009-03-16, 16:47	Link #548
Luco Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia	Ok Rion, I see what your saying. First, I spoke with Hox and first offered to help him scanlate on his releases. He turned me down, and I was ok with that. Second, he said that he was fine with me using his translations, so I do have his permission. And my releases will be slow if ever released, so it's not as serious business as you think. And sorry if a few peoples work isn't up to scratch with one of the oldest scanlation groups around. Eh, I'll probably give up if that's the way people feel.

2009-03-19, 20:11	Link #549
Renan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: My house Age: 30	No Luco! You will not give up! Don't believe in yourself! Believe in me who believes in you! If you don't scanlate Bokurano then who will!? You are our only hope! Don't listen to those nay sayers! Do what your heart tells you and scanlate Bokurano with your drill!

2009-03-20, 12:40	Link #550
Rion Ramune~ Join Date: Mar 2004	Hey Luco, I think it's great that you went to ask permission. That gets the most problematic thing out of the way. At this point, of course it's up to you whether you want to continue doing this, and if others want to support you in this endeavor, they totally can. By the way, I don't know that much about Mangascreener, but it's not like 10 people work on a project there and not everyone of them is a 5 year veteran. As far as I know, Bokurano was a project which was pushed by perhaps 2 people and mainly worked on by those two, who, by the way, also had a lot of other projects running. There is no reason for you to feel sorry about not be able to reach those editing skills, it's just that I see no reason why anyone would need another group's work on Bokurano unless it looks as astounishing as Mangascreener's releases. (And don't worry, their releases looked crap as hell when they just started, especially the shoujo stuff. It's only later that they became very, very aware of editing quality - to the point of pissing their editors off.) And if your releases are also slow on top of that, why bother? It's not about "giving up" or anything, unlike Simon and Kamina, it's not like you are fighting anyone. It's about whether it's worth it for anybody, and whether it is an appropriate thing to do. When I think about how many great series are left unscanlated (and there are tons! There is even Mohiro Kitoh's newest series), it's saddening when you see people doing double work when they could use their time and skills on other things.

2009-03-20, 15:36	Link #552
MikoGalatea Just A Lurker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: England, UK Age: 37	I'm just glad someone finally did continue scanslations for Bokurano. Come to think of it, though, I haven't seen any raws since chapter 60, at least not on the usual source; shouldn't Japan be on ch62 or 63 by now? Oh, and Rion? What's this new Kitoh series you're talking about? I haven't heard anything about it before, and I'm really curious.

2009-03-20, 16:33	Link #553
Rion Ramune~ Join Date: Mar 2004	Yeah, I think the most recent one is chapter 62, but 63 should be out soon, or something like that? I'm sorry that I was a little misleading, the 'series' I was talking about is "Owari to Hajimari no Mairusu", serialized in Manga Erotics F and I'm still not sure if it's ongoing or a one-shot. By the way, wow, it's scanlated in French. YAY! I have to get it quickly before it gets licensed (who knows, this is France we are speaking about, they license everything). Here's a picture of the cover:

2009-03-20, 17:32	Link #554
Renan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: My house Age: 30	...What in the world is that?

2009-03-23, 16:56	Link #556
Renan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: My house Age: 30	That's not the french Bokurano is it?

2009-04-05, 16:12	Link #558
tsurumaru I refuse to die dammit! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Age: 47	Incidentally I haven't seen raws released for beyond chapter 60 yet and as far as I can ascertain Chapter 64 will be the final chapter!

2009-04-23, 16:44	Link #560
Renan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: My house Age: 30	So I'm guessing we can put Bokurano back in the dead category again right?