2008-10-03, 06:55 | Link #49 | |
Honyaku no Hime
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: In the eastern capital of the islands of the rising suns...
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Even if she did/didn't she has inspired me now, seeing all the praise I'm reading about her xD *US cheesy trailer voice* "In a world where males dominate and e-penis wars are fought for internet prestige, one woman gains respect of the soldiers in the battlezone that is... fansubbing." My curiousity is tingling.... Leader or staff? Both. Project leader side: I love staring hopelessness in the face and emotionally cutting myself to ressurrect dead projects, I swear I do! *laughs* If all the pieces of the fansub lifecycle are there (from raw to distro) and the team generally gets on, then playing the middlegirl to keep the cogs turning so a script can pass from one stage to another is something i don't mind. It's a kinda responsibility that has somehow transferred from things I do offline, so it feels no different... aside from the fact its all guys I gotta motivate without letting my female senses interfere too much, it's a learning process. At the end of the day though, it is still teamwork and I can't help but treat fansubbing (to a degree) alike teamwork in a real job. If you cannot complete something in time or can't get it done, tell me and i'll find an alternative, rather than just being lazy or makin up excuses; the same way if you can't get to work for a day, you call up to let your manager know. Even if there isn't a 'real job' perspective on it, I call it just being damn courteous to others, but perhaps that's just my Britishness at play there. My personal work ethic would be alike the japanese: "work hard, party hard." When it's time to do your part, please do so. When done, time to have some fun." As staff, I'd try to do my fansub part asap and then go terrorise the rest of the chan as normal, but it is nice when the only thing you'd need to be concerned about is your sole role. (TS, Edit, TL, etc) The preference simply depends on how much responsibility you wanna carry as a person. *shrugs* The aspect of a 'leader' still well and truly exists, just as someone mentioned earlier, it's rare to see nowadays, not to also mention it requires that person commands a certain amount of respect from the group, which has got to be earnt and the staff need to acknowledge that and behave in accordance to it. To do that with a bunch of peeps from different locations of the world, with diff mindsets, diff backgrounds, diff ages etc is no easy feat, especially since we're all hiding behind a computer screen. (Reprecussions What reprecussions?) As I said, from the comments of the gg leader, I'm inspired that she's managed to pull it off and there don't seem to be any hard feelings about it So if someone achieves that kinda leader status, then sure they can easily kick/ban a person and the others will have to listen or leave, (provided that the situation was dealt in a open, controlled manner), they can make the hard decisions, decide the projects and manipulate the general working atmosphere (and image too) of the group as a whole. A good leader makes for happy staff who'll follow. That be my two pence for the day~
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2008-10-03, 09:26 | Link #51 | |
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[22:42:13] <ilifin> you're like a little worrying mom [22:42:15] <ilifin> <3 [22:43:26] <raspberry> it comes with the job -v-/ [22:43:28] <raspberry> mama koda [22:43:36] <ilifin> mamaa~n [22:43:37] <raspberry> koda ane-ue -v- |
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2008-10-03, 09:39 | Link #52 | ||
Honyaku no Hime
Fansubber
Join Date: May 2008
Location: In the eastern capital of the islands of the rising suns...
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Think of it as a nice WB present for her But if a group is only working cause of the sole person, it's doomed to fail if there's no backup plan to keep it going. One of the hardest things is to gather enough motivation when things are behind or trailing. *throws a scone at FalseDawn's head* Quote:
Generally that is the British way, jack all gets done in time, I'm sat here in London freaking out about the Olympics cause nothing seems to be done on time (also look at BA terminal 5 fiasco, need I say more) Then again I've lived/worked/studied in Japan and I learnt some serious disicipline, lol. I like how things are done there, so it has become part of my personal work ethic for anything, hobby or not.
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2008-10-03, 12:28 | Link #53 |
the ancient biter
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I have no interest in being a "Leader".
If time wasn't a factor, my preference would be to do my work (edit/qc/whatever) AND make sure the project goes smoothly. This includes holding the whip, figuring out people's schedules, motivating people, making sure tasks get done, handling releases and generally interacting with the entire staff. Also if any of the staff is sick or injured, I try to diagnose them and tell them the appropriate treatment. (Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, but I play one on IRC.) All of the above responsibilities take up a significant amount of time, but at least things get done and everyone is happy. In the past, I've just focused on my particular task and let other people (usually the translator) handle the project management. I'd only do this again if I had trust and confidence in the people in charge.
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2008-10-03, 19:21 | Link #55 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Would you agree on the different types of leaders:
The best type is invisible or unknown, the group members either don't recognize their existance or think of them as a 'leader'. When the group members finish a task, they all say 'we did it ourselves'. The next type is visible and known, came to power by demonstrating ability, generally well liked and only rarely imposes their own will on the group or forces anyone to do anything, is content to simply enable the group members or add positive synergy. The next type was elected or appointed, and serves to keep things moving forward by acting as a nuetral administrator who only cares to complete the task at hand. The worst type came to power through politics or backstabbing or controlling a vital interest to the group, and abuses their power for their own sake, at the behest of others, or for their own motives. (?) |
2008-10-05, 01:02 | Link #60 |
Aboard Kallen's Bandwagon
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: California
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I thought the whole fansubbing process was completely opposite. All this time, I thought it was a band of people who liked an anime and just wanted to spread whatever they are a fan of to the general mass. Basically everyone just does the part they can and be proud of what they release. It seemed more like a "social" thing to me as far as fansub groups go.
Drama between fansubbers still baffles me today.
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