(L) Log Horizon (novel)

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Estavali

Mamare seems pretty awkward when it comes to narrative; his style is more fluid with MaoYuu's script format.

Another problem, one that also pops up in MaoYuu, is that Mamare have the tendency, an urge really, to be as precise as he can when it comes to details, especially when he's explaining a concept. While this makes good info dump, it can hurt the flow of his writing, which is as highlighted by aohige above.

To sum it up, Mamare is good with world building and he's also good at using tropes and stereotypes to create the effect he wants. His main weakness is the way he tells the story, which I think will be improved on now that he's gone pro and has an editor to work with him =3

Yeah pretty much. Not just info dump, but also seems to kinda wander off into tangent before realizing he needs to come back.

The fundamental "pacing" of writing seems to be amateurish level.
It may be due to his background, starting as an armature writer posting his works on 2ch.
I didn't see any disclosure on his background, but I doubt it's one of formal writing school.

He seems to be ripe with great ideas and conversational narrations, and use those strength to make up for the poorly structured pacing.

[tsunade666]

^shouldn't the editor pointed out those problems and try to fix it out?

[tsunade666]

Nothing new in the thread?

Like is the problem of food solve?

In the end of the anime, it looks like nyanta is cooking omelete.
Does he like to cook? Does the food had taste?

[Quol]

There is probably a special way to make food with taste, like getting some ingredients or maxing out a subclass.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Nothing new in the thread?

Like is the problem of food solve?

In the end of the anime, it looks like nyanta is cooking omelete.
Does he like to cook? Does the food had taste?

First chapter of the manga was scanlated. Coincidentally, it picks up exactly where the recent episode left off. It looks like only processed foods tastes like crap. Raw food like fruit still have taste.

[Quol]

By the way, does anyone know if there is an english translation for the light novel?

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Nothing new in the thread?

Like is the problem of food solve?

In the end of the anime, it looks like nyanta is cooking omelete.
Does he like to cook? Does the food had taste?

Well, actually Estavali already mention this, but I'll just reiterate here.

Spoiler for food:

You can have tasty food if you have someone with cook subclass to create the food. If someone else try to create it, the food turn into failed dish(charcoal).

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Well, actually Estavali already mention this, but I'll just reiterate here.

Spoiler for food:

You can have tasty food if you have someone with cook subclass to create the food. If someone else try to create it, the food turn into failed dish(charcoal).

Heh, I did? This is actually something that has a literally game-changing effect in the story (pretty much equivalent to Big Sis Maid's declaration of human rights in MaoYuu) so I did my best not to mention anything about it

To add on to what kuroishinigami has mentioned:

Spoiler for Just on food:

Not only must the Adventurer have the cook subclass, s/he must also have the required level to match the recipe, like how one must have the required level of skill to make more than just omelettes =3. Otherwise the outcome would either be charcoal or some unknown substance which, if shown on manga or anime, must be censored to prevent mass trauma

Also, kuroishinigami also didn't mention the most important factor in making tasty food in LogHora. To give a hint, it's similar to the the difference between using skills through the command menu and just dishing them out at will.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Estavali

Heh, I did? This is actually something that has a literally game-changing effect in the story (pretty much equivalent to Big Sis Maid's declaration of human rights in MaoYuu) so I did my best not to mention anything about it

To add on to what kuroishinigami has mentioned:

Spoiler for Just on food:

Not only must the Adventurer have the cook subclass, s/he must also have the required level to match the recipe, like how one must have the required level of skill to make more than just omelettes =3. Otherwise the outcome would either be charcoal or some unknown substance which, if shown on manga or anime, must be censored to prevent mass trauma

Also, kuroishinigami also didn't mention the most important factor in making tasty food in LogHora. To give a hint, it's similar to the the difference between using skills through the command menu and just dishing them out at will.

Don't worry. The importance of cooking and its role as the cause of mass conflict was already stated by aohige, but thanks for the additional info

[tsunade666]

Its been stated but the reason behind it isn't cleared.

[aohige]

I didn't really want to get into details of food until anime episode reach 6~11 area.
It's the first significant climax of the series, and really sets the tone of what it's going to be like.

[tsunade666]

Does the food problem occur on volume 2?

[FRS]

Does the novel expend on the death/respawn process ?

- do players feel pain when they died ?
- is there a stat loss or xp penalty ?
- do players drop item on death ?
- can the healers class cast rez/combat rez spell ?

[aohige]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Does the food problem occur on volume 2?

Yes, 2nd novel.
In anime it should be right around episode 5.

Its importance however, is revealed from episode 6-10 or so

Originally Posted by FRS

Does the novel expend on the death/respawn process ?

- do players feel pain when they died ?
- is there a stat loss or xp penalty ?
- do players drop item on death ?
- can the healers class cast rez/combat rez spell ?

Yes, the players can feel pain. However, the amount of pain you feel is drastically reduced.
There's EXP penalty, no stat loss. However, there's a more important loss......

Spoiler:

you lose small portion of your memory from your life in the original world

Yes, non-bound items (soul-bound items are called "locked" items in ET) and money can get looted
Not sure about in-combat rez, but you can cast rez out of combat. This is crucial while raiding of course.
(That's why the bodies disappearing instantly is a bad change in the anime...)

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by FRS

Does the novel expend on the death/respawn process ?

- do players feel pain when they died ?
- is there a stat loss or xp penalty ?
- do players drop item on death ?
- can the healers class cast rez/combat rez spell ?

- they feel pain from attacks so they will feel the pain when dying but the feel of death?.... I don't know
- when one die they receive xp penalty and lost item and gold
- healers can heal in the middle of combat. There is even a spell where there are pre-cast spell so while in he middle of the battle, it will automatically cast when one reach critical level or red zone.

Edit: is rez heal spell or resurrection spell?

[aohige]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

- healers can heal in the middle of combat. There is even a spell where there are pre-cast spell so while in he middle of the battle, it will automatically cast when one reach critical level or red zone.

No, by "rez" he means resurrection from death. It's an MMO term.

[FRS]

Thanks for the infos aohige.

Originally Posted by aohige

Yes, the players can feel pain. However, the amount of pain you feel is drastically reduced.
There's EXP penalty, no stat loss. However, there's a more important loss......

Spoiler:

you lose small portion of your memory from your life in the original world

Ouch that's a harsh consequence to death !.

Could a player lose level by dying ?

Yes, non-bound items (soul-bound items are called "locked" items in ET) and money can get looted
Not sure about in-combat rez, but you can cast rez out of combat. This is crucial while raiding of course.
(That's why the bodies disappearing instantly is a bad change in the anime...)

Ah yes indeed.

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by aohige

(That's why the bodies disappearing instantly is a bad change in the anime...)

Spoiler:

True, but I guess when we come to that part, folks might just shrug and accept it as "Well, so-and-so is this-and-that so maybe the rules are a bit different for them~"

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by aohige

No, by "rez" he means resurrection from death. It's an MMO term.

Haha sorry I haven't played in international game that needed me for ressurrection. I usually play solo in the game and in party we usually the offensive type. I play in our local or country server which is not English but Tagalog.

If someone shout or type "pa resu" someone needs resurrection.

[aohige]

I love how MMO-savvy this is.
Anyone who has ever seriously raided has had times when they range-rez bodies out of the boss aggro field.

As for death penalty, no, you cannot lose level from dying.
However, exp death penalties do go past your level.
Meaning, you could actually end up with a lvl90 character with 0 exp if you died thousands of times.
For someone like that to levle to 91, he'd have to get enough exp points for 1-91. OUCH.