2012-01-18, 04:45 | Link #281 | |
Pretentious moe scholar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Fanservice of ten year old girl = squick (amplified by the show's theme) = jarring and distracting = detracts from the experience Pretty simple, really. The Sora fanservice I have less complaints about since she isn't supposed to be ten like Miu.
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2012-01-18, 04:51 | Link #282 | |
NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 35
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You are looking at my Miu aren't you! You are thinking of coveting her aren't you so you can make her wear fox ears and go "Miu~!"?* Go away! Stay away from my Miu! * - That sounds like a good idea for a fanart.
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2012-01-18, 04:53 | Link #283 | |
Bittersweet Distractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
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I'm not trying to kid anyone here. I find that sort of stuff distasteful. Not because I have some higher moral standard here or any of that kind of bs, but just the idea that the show is seriously trying to sell me a 10 year old girl's sex appeal to me or something. A girl mind you who probably hasn't even hit puberty. I'm not going to say anything about you guys who enjoy it. That's your call. Personally, I find this content displeasing ot me, and in a show of this nature, VERY distracting. If this show was clearly defined as that kind of show, I wouldn't even come here to complain about it. Clearly it wouldn't be for me. But at the moment, it's just a tad too unclear for me at the moment.
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2012-01-18, 06:41 | Link #284 |
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Join Date: May 2010
Age: 33
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Watched this even though I thought it was going to be pretty bad, I really enjoyed it.
I guessed what was going to happen in episode 2 but I was really hoping it wasn't. That bit was kind of sad if I'm honest and sucks since her character was so nice. |
2012-01-18, 07:27 | Link #287 |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Actually, the anime from last year we should be comparing this show to is not the superb Usagi Drop, but instead comparison should be made to Astarotte no Omocha, a show which juggled 'heartwarming and bittersweet family issues' with 'insanely dodgy premise', so every time you were lulled into a false sense of security and thinking "Awwww, isn't that cute" they'd throw in a reminder of that basic premise again to creep you out.
While this is not as bad, if it's a choice between heartwarming or dodgy I take the former. |
2012-01-18, 07:55 | Link #288 | |
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You are distracted by non-existent kids and teenagers, view them sexually, yet blame animators, scriptwriters, and viewers who don't. If not what is exactly distracting you? You also insist on using the term "this kind of show", other than judging that "kind" from only 2 episodes, you are also assuming what will happen in the next 10 as well as what is happening in their original material. And do you really want shows to fit one or two troupes and be easily predictable from their first half hour? Oh! and I am using "you" for convenience, nothing personal, a lot of people voiced similar concerns, and however bipolar and rude, you are the majority of normal people PS: About you now, I am surprised that EVA is one of your favourite shows, which starred some of the most horny teenagers in non-H anime, ignoring being one of the shows that popularized fan-service. Also Cowboy Bepop? Faye? and I don't know where to start with Texhnolyze PS2: Remember kids real life has nothing to do with fiction |
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2012-01-18, 09:41 | Link #289 |
a random Indonesian otaku
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Xanadu
Age: 32
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at first... I completely not interested about this anime because the title sounds a moe moe ecchi anime for me
after watching ep 1, woot! he's 19 years old like me... xD and that's completely a typical life of university boy like me... he looks mature... and got 3 moe nieces.... watching ep 2, *overcuteness....* I want to watch this more... what a beautiful family love.... and Yuuta really take a dangerous decision.... how can he support 4 people while studying for college.... the other family must support his financial as well... at least scholarship for Sora, Yuuta, and Miu there's nothing like step-mother cruelty or step-sister cruelty.... very beautiful... setting is good and soundtrack is okay..... *entering watching list* anyway, Hina is too mature for being 3 years old.... she acts like 5 years old already |
2012-01-18, 11:09 | Link #290 |
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Just watched ep 2 at last. Quite a lot of filler scenes which makes it really slow-paced (could be good, or bad, I can't really tell).
Btw, the funeral scene in the LN was also rather curt. The only part where I felt anything in the LN from that particular part was: Spoiler for LN comparison with same events:
The part where Miu called Yuuta Papa in the anime: Spoiler for LN comparison:
As the credits rolled, I saw staff from Zexcs. That might explain some of the more liberal fan-service scenes. Also to set some expectations right, this is not a gloomy series about tragedy after tragedy. This is about a 19-year old university student having to take on the role of a father to his 3 nieces (who are all at their respective difficult ages: adolescent in puberty, the 'little devil' child, and the ignorant and innocent toddler) and how they cope with their lives at the same time. So it should be pretty normal to have a mix of both heartwarming (or even light hearted comedy) and heartrending or touching scenes in between. So I don't really find anything wrong with some fanservice scenes here and there, as long as it falls within the light hearted moments (after all they want this to sell). There are also some mild fanservice in the novels for humor purposes (they either bring a smile to my face or make me laugh, I definitely didn't start panting like a dog ) and to accentuate certain behavioral traits of some characters, which I don't really feel like discussing now. If they do the conclusion chapters of volume 1 right, it would be good stuff. Last edited by larethian; 2012-01-18 at 11:23. |
2012-01-18, 14:44 | Link #292 | ||
Bittersweet Distractor
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It is not about being easily predictable either. There is absolutely no reason to try make sex posters of ten year old girls in a show which obviously takes itself seriously enough to try and present a heartwarming story. My main complaint of the episode besides that though is simply that this anime is really rushed though towards its ending scenes. No transition use whatsoever. Quote:
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2012-01-18, 15:24 | Link #293 |
Chicken or Beef?
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle
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You don't know that. People hit puberty at different ages, my older sister got her period when she was 9. Even though at the time was more rare, but kids are developing physically faster nowadays. Hell, statistics even came out that more and more kids are having sex in grade school.
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2012-01-18, 17:41 | Link #294 |
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I guessed 3 years old is the new moe nowadays, eh?
Kinda depressing to see the main premise of the show to be based on such a sad situation. I'm alright with the fanservice (as long as it's not too much). Looking forward to see how things progress. Spoiler for sora's role:
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2012-01-18, 18:23 | Link #295 | ||
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All these sound more like fantasize about, rather then what is actually is shown... granted some of us might have excited it with jokes and references to another anime, but these are your issues, we carry the adult discussion in another thread, respecting oversensitive people. But that said, there is absolutely nothing wrong or sexual with a 14 year old imaginary character having a shower, or 3 old brat playing a trumpet, and so on. Compare these with legal material produced for lolicons with real children and youngsters, objectifying and exploiting them, and then you might begin to understand the difference. After all perversion is not advertised by the audience that might laugh with Oni Chichi or find mini-Hibiki and Sora cute, but by upstanding members of society that never talk about it nor watch such unrealistic staff like anime. Quote:
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2012-01-18, 18:54 | Link #296 | |||
Bittersweet Distractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
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What in the world are you talking about? I made no comments about any posters. Care to explain?
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I stated that what I wanted is not foreshadowing, but TRANSITION. One moment we hear about the accident happening on his TV and phone as he is asleep. Next moment we're suddenly at the funeral scene. We didn't get to see how the characters reacted to the news when they first got it, how he as their uncle decided to break the news to them, how the girls first reacted to it, absolutely nothing! These scenes would have been great to show, to illustrate and explore the dramatic crisis at hand, but they just jumped from one scene to the next without anything. Impact is most certainly lost here because of this, especially when the scene was just crammed haphazardly at the end of the episode (Besides some reality checks for the show in question). Quote:
If you want to talk about how my views are held consistently in the shows I watch and love, you're welcome to discuss it with me in VM/PM, but those things are utterly irrelevant to the topic and discussion at hand.
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2012-01-18, 19:11 | Link #298 | ||
My Girl ↓
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The intent here, as a reader of the LN and manga knows, is to slap you in the face that the girls' parents suddenly either died or gone missing.
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2012-01-18, 19:45 | Link #299 | |
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All in all, I would just say that I think it's pointless to debate the fanservice question. To the people who are bothered by it, it will be an issue simply by virtue of being there (no matter how small the quantity), and no amount of discussion or rationalization is going to change that. This is especially true of people who believe that others should be as morally-outraged as they are about it (or that "anime would be better" without it). For the people who just aren't bothered by it that much, it's better to just let people who are bothered by it get it out of their system now. At a certain point, as long as the show continues to contain the same balance of elements, complaining about this one element will become redundant and tired, since it will be just part of what the show is. But more time may be needed for the balance of the elements to become more clear so that people can decide if this is a show they want to invest their time in or not. So I'm not telling people to stop debating this point, but just saying that I don't think a single person is ever going to be convinced to either be upset or not be upset by this sort of fanservice just by reading posts on a forum. It's something that either bothers you or it doesn't. Most of the people posting their opinion just want to be heard and for other people who feel the same way to affirm their point of view. Debating it is pointless.
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2012-01-18, 20:26 | Link #300 |
The Shermain
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NY
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After reading the first few chapters of the manga, which takes place after the disappearance, it was really nice to see what lead up to it. It was really well-done and the characters are great. Not a fan of the 10 year old fan service and I'm definitely a Yuuta-Raika fan, as Sora's only 14, but I can deal with it as long it's not a main focus of the anime and long as Yuuta doesn't start have sexual fantasies about the kids. Then it goes into a territory I don't want to be in. :P
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