Amagami Game thread

[aldw]

Originally Posted by karuroso

Awesome !!! =DDD Hibiki finally has her own route, ah if only someone could translate i.i do you know if her route is short or about the same size of the main girls?

From what the channers were discussing it appears to be about the same length as the 6 original routes...

[swtrooper42]

Originally Posted by aldw

Spoiler for PSP:

Hibiki finally got her route, and about time too...

Ah, I wish this was translated. I guess the best I can hope for are anime OVAs. Those are probably a longshot though.

[Rias]

How do you trigger that route?

[GundamZZ]

Originally Posted by karuroso

Thanks for the answers =D and did you ordered the normal version or the LE? please report what come with the normal one in case you ordered that one

Judging by the box size, the order was the normal version. This version didn't have any extra item. However, it had Haruka postcard. According to the postcard's description, the company used the postcard as the makeup for the delay of the release date.

Spoiler:

[Gault]

finnished the best route with Ayatsuji and Middle best route with Ayatsuji , the PS2 game guide I have works well with the PSP game so not much changed from it

HOWEVER , im interested in this Hibiki route..

Spoiler for Ayatsuji Routes:

what I dont understand with the ending routes for Ayatsuji is , the middle best route has a better scene , like the 10 years after scene is in the middle best route where as the top best route just has certain good CGs but the ending scene is just Ayatsuji clinging on to Junichi at the school , I guess its all in the dialogue which I don't understand 100%

[DarkWarrior]

Where's this nonsense of a full length Hibiki route coming from? I can't find any solid information on it. Sounds more like a troll to me, although I would love to be proven wrong.

[aldw]

Originally Posted by DarkWarrior

Where's this nonsense of a full length Hibiki route coming from? I can't find any solid information on it. Sounds more like a troll to me, although I would love to be proven wrong.

I can only say what was spoken about from the various -chans, so that's as far as I know.

[Qikz]

Well, my LE PSP version just showed up. Wow. One of the best LE's I've ever seen and there's so much stuff in that massive box. I've got some photos I'll upload in a bit.

Spoiler for photos in here. ^^:

On the side I got a photo of is some really nice Kimikiss illustrations and on the other side of the book is a manga. ^^



Also included is a Miya 300pc Puzzle and what looks to be a frame to keep the puzzle in. ^^

[GundamZZ]

The majong game is not what I expected. I don't know how to play majong anyway. It started with two story lines. The story mode is used default backgrounds. One game is Junichi's perspective. He's secretly in love with Haruka. Another game is Koichi's perspective. He's secretly in love with Hoshino. The Koichi's story mode, he interacts with Megumi and Hoshino. I can't help but to think Tsukasa's personality is the combination of these two. Megumi is like Tsukasa's inner personality. It's just my view.
The story of majong game doesn't seem to change anything. According to the official guide, Amagami is 7-8 years before Kimikiss. They wanted to create different kind main heroine. So, they left the typical nice/harmless attribute to Rihoko. About the gaming, continue to click, click and click.

[msg]

Ok just got the game a few days ago.yay!Wow big is big.Unfortunately for me, i'm unable to play the game at a leisurely pace cuz of work and stuff...T T.maybe one of these weekends..anyways

that hibiki route...is there or isn't there?i've scour the 2ch highs and lows looking for some clues about hibiki's route and the nearest clue about hibiki's having a route is from the tech gian VN not from ebikore.Perhaps maybe just maybe if we could be able to finish the six main heroine group routes...or complete the mahjong game, we could unlock these hidden route? gahh i really wanted to see hibiki's route and others too.

confirm:risa's route is a bit longer but still short from the six main heroines routes

Small Info's about Hibiki <from 2ch forums- take it with a grain of salt>

her dad and grand dad is both a doctor
Hibiki is the only child of the family.
Hibiki's family raise six dogs-no wonder morishima like hibiki
hibiki got to be a doctor, a paediatrician to be exact
hibiki did work as a part time nursery teacher cuz she loves small children
From there she's got an experiences dealing with her kouhais in the swimming club.

[MrTerrorist]

So i just found out from TVTropes that Amagami take place 7-8 years before Kimikiss.

So what year does Amagami takes place?

[Gault]

when the playstation 1 was big I suppose and internet wasn't as popular? , looking at the phone convos Hibiki and Morishima have , those good ole days of using the home phone and ignoring your parents waiting for an important work call

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Gault

when the playstation 1 was big I suppose and internet wasn't as popular? , looking at the phone convos Hibiki and Morishima have , those good ole days of using the home phone and ignoring your parents waiting for an important work call

In the 90s, the internet was there, but those were still the days of slow 56k modem connections. The internet doesn't really kick off till past 2000 where the PS2 is under way and most people have DSL connections or better.

Anyway, what are all the new routes in the PSP version? Just Hibiki and Keiko?

[karuroso]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Anyway, what are all the new routes in the PSP version? Just Hibiki and Keiko?

What Keiko? Nobody said anything about her having a route, isn't maybe Hibiki and Maya?

[Rias]

I don't think there any new routes besides the ones that were available in the PS2 version.

[Qikz]

Been playing this a lot recently, focusing on Rihoko's route as my first one as she's my favourite girl and I can almost taste the ending I'm that close. Some of her scenes have just been so good.

[GundamZZ]

It might be news.
Eb stays conserved since the earthquake. Not only they cancelled the company's 10th anniversary event, they also reduces the size of Famitsu. The width is quite thin.

[BaKaBaKaOtaKu]

i wish hibiki's route gets an ova.

[GundamZZ]

Random Information

Toshihiro Sakamoto: Directing and scenario
Kisai Takayama: All Character Design
Makoto Ishikawa: Main system programming

Spoiler for Random Information:

まずは『アマがミ』の企画の成り立ちについて教えてください
坂本:『キミキス』の作業が終わってから、しばらくの間チーム自体はTECH GIANさんの『キミキスちょっとおまけ劇場』の作業に入っていました。

Originally Posted by attempt translation

Q: First, please tell us bout the origins of Amagami project
Sakamoto: After Kimikiss production is over, we were making Kimikiss little extra stage for Tech Gian-San.

[quote]
Takayama: It feels like that I am the only one who prepare the backstage work silently.
Sakamato: Takayama sensei's assisgnment is to help us to deliver many ideas during the production of Kimikiss; we couldn't actualize those idea during Kimikiss production.
Ishikawa: During the production of Kimikiss Ebicore +, we decided to use new interface software, ADX. The work builds the foundation for Kimikiss Ebicore + and Amagami.
Q; So, the increased content in Amagmai DVD is the benenfit of ADX?
Ishikawa: It's correct. We can compress more sound files than we did it with Kimikiss. The sound files of Kimikiss Ebicore is compressed to 2/3 of original Kimikiss DVD.
[quote]

Q: なるほど。とコルで、作品名が『キミキス2』ではなく『アマガミ』になったのは、なぜでしょう か?
高山:今回は制作スタッフの顔部も変化して新体制となりましたし、ゲ一ムシステムの面では『TLS』シリ一 ズからの伝統であったラソダ厶要素名完全に排除してしまいました。ここまで変化すると、これはもう違う名前 を冠したハウがいい名と思ったんです。そんな前題の元に、まず本気と冗談が半々の状態で「キスの次宝、甘噛 みだな」と『アマがミ(仮)』というタイ卜ルで企画書を作りました。そうしたら、これが意外と社内のウケが よくって....

Originally Posted by attempt translation

Q: I see. Why the title is Amagami, not Kimikiss 2?
Takayama: We have personnel changes with production staffs, so we have new work assignment. We eliminated the random element since the tradition of True Love Story series. Because of the change, We thought the name should be different. Therefore, we named the new title half jokingly and half seriously: "After the kiss, the next good thing is sweet bite". Amagami became the alias title on the proposal paper. Surprisingly, the title was appealing in the company.

Originally Posted by abridged

高山:あと『アマガミ』は『キミキス』と並行世界の話なので、今回も『ガソガル』に登場しても らいました。
Q:そういえば前回は「乙ガソがル」でしたね(笑)
高山:それです。今回は「初代ガソガル」です（笑）。時代は「アマがミのほうが7-8年まえの設定なのので。
Q:え、そうなんですか?
高山：逢野弟の郁夫ガ、小学校で同級生の女の子にちょっかいを出しているといる問いウイべソトガあるんです が、その女の子はキミキスの菜々なんですよ。

Originally Posted by attempt translation

Takayama: Since Amagami is in the parallel world of Kimikiss, Gasogaru also appeared in Amagami.
Q: Last time [the robot] was, [Gasogaru Z](laughs)
Takayama: It is. This time, the first generation Gasogaru appears in Amagami (laughs). The story setting of Amagami is 7-8 years ago.
Q: Oh, is it so?
Takayama: Ai's younger brother is Ikuo. He has issue with his female classmate at his elementary school. That girl is Nana from Kimikiss.

Spoiler for Translator's Comment:

Gasogaru is a type of robot. It is in both Amagami and Kimikiss. Junichi sees a giant shadow in Ai's Nakayoshi(friendship) route. In the route, Ikuo sits on the hand of the robot. In anime episode 16, a random kid sits on the hand of the robot.

Spoiler:

In Ai's Nakayoshi route, Junichi assists Ai with her brother issue. Her brother Ikuo bullies his classmate. He stick the sign "50 Yen per play" on the girl's back. It is the reference to the arcade machines. Junichi sees that Ikuo is trying to get the girl's attention. He corrected Ikuo's behavior by telling him about lifting Ai's skirt. Junichi is a gentleman/pervert afterall. The Q&A reveals that classmate's name is Nana. She's a bro-con, so she doesn't return Ikuo's feeling. This story is not spoiler for either game. By the way, It is common for Japanese game/anime with hidden official information.

Spoiler for Tsukasa:

Q: Talking about Tuskasa, her character.....
Takayama: Originally, the setting is not intended for comedic character at dark side. We still prepare the realistic route.
Sakamoto: The typical character of main heroine is harmless and lovely girl. It's too old fashion. This time, we try the new challenge. Her character is born under such circumstance.
Q: Doesn't Tsukasa's bad ending have deep meaning?
Takayama: Actually, it's closer to nonsense. However, it's closer to the area of NG. So, the story turns out this way. I think the different gamers will have he different interpretation. Is it due to the loose of Tsuksa's defense, or is it the act to make protagonist uncomfortable....
Q: The work does not have the resolution of Tsukasa and her family.
Takayama: Yes. The protagonist from the friendship route marries Tsukasa. They have a child. However, I think it's because Tsukasa wants to get married and leave her family. Isn't it Tsukasa's attempt to get the family with good relationship.
Sakamoto: The rebellious time does not disappear quickly in middle school and high school. It should be that children generally don't understand their parents' feeling. Most people don't understand their parents, until they have their own children. The only person who understand Tsukasa is the protagonist....if everyone can think this way, we will be happy.

Spoiler for Kaoru:

Q: Kaoru's image is especially traditional girl.
Takayama: Correct. We design a bad friend, a character who speaks her mind. So, Kaoru is a girl whose character design is completed since the beginning.
Q: In Takayama sensei's drawing, it's rare to see the hairstyle like Kaoru.
Takayama: During the early stage of development, the hairstyle is in my mind. During the late stage of Kimikiss production, I already conceived Kaoru's image.
Q: During Christmas event, the drawing shows Kaoru's standing pose.
Takayama: It's that back side kick. It was planned as event CG. I feel standing pose is better, so it was changed. I used the reference from tiger man's wrestling style (laugh).
Q: Talking about Karou, we would remember belly kissing.
Sakamoto: It was impressive. During the stage of production, it's hard to image the degree of damage. Once the CG is out, voice is recorded, and other steps are completed. It is beyond my imagination. Kaoru's event is one of the icon.
Takayama: From the start, it was kissing fingers. However, it was not interesting. By request, the CG is changed.
Sakamoto: One day, I noticed it became belly button..... However, I like this picture very much. Kaoru's belly has the shadow of protagonist. Actually, I thought about an advertisement. Kaoru's belly has tatto sticker "Amagami". I gave up this idea, bcause people may not understand the main theme of game.... Isn't it nice to changed game title to "Licking belly button"?

Spoiler for Ai:

Q: Isn't the design of Ai's design popular?
Takayama: Each time, the game production would assign me to create fifth girl freely. [The fifth girl were Kami Yanayu(True Love Story Summer Days, and yet...) and Eriko Futami (Kimikiss).] They were created this way. This time, Ai's upper eye brow and cat's character.
Q: I thought she's my-way lower class student, but she's a normal girl.
Takayama: I intentionally make the change during the story. Because it's too similar to the past character. Ai would become normal kudere character. My intention was to create a shy girl.
Q: She was held and lifted by protagonist from behind, and protagonist puts hands in her pocket.
Takayama: The message is very H. Let's say, "Today's cold, use Nanasaki to warm up!" (laugh) But all couples would do such thing (laugh!)
Q:Pharoh's curse is too severe.
Takayama: Pharoh's event is originally planned. Because I wanted to show Pharosh's curse is no joke this time. So I said, "Everyone, Ai will become Soy Sauce Ramen". Everyone was like "EH?" (laugh)
(Translator's note: Pharoh made his first appearance in Kimikiss.)

Spoiler for Haruka:

Q: How is her character designed?
Takayama: Until now, we don't have girl with hairband. So, it's the main point of design. Why we must use hairband, because Haruka's original design is a bunny girl.
Q: Bunny girl?
Takayama: Yes. I used the drawing of bunny girl. Then, her rabbit ear was removed. Even I knew the character was used for Amagami, I did not have sense her setting was high school student. After I drew bunny girl, I took out her rabbit ears and changed her hair color to black. She became Haruka (laugh). I was undecided about her hair color (blond or black). Even blond is very close to silver, the feeling of color is closer to white.
Q: Haruka's design has four family members. She and her brothers have shocking middle names. Isn't it.
Sakamoto: Haruka is Morishima Lovely Haruka. Her brothers are also cool (laugh). The oldest son is Morishima Strong Hagane. The second brother is Morishima Genius Tomo. The third brother is Morishima Justice Seegi.
Q: Haruka's friendship route is shocking. The protagonist is willing to behave like a dog.
Takayama: I think changing to dog is easier for Haruka. They don't even need to decide he dating location (laugh).
Sakamoto: Ah. Because she' the upperclass adored by potagonist, he is basically been treated like a dog (laugh).
Q: Haruka's Suki Bad end is heartbreaking.
Sakamoto: It's based on real life experience. It makes you feel bad. (Translator's comment: Sorry to hear about it. I see part of Junichi in you, and other staffs.)
Takayama: It's especially working with someone with special relationship. It is unpleasant thing.
Ishikawa: Especially she becomes your boss. She already has the good grades. She has good quality. She does everything without any flaws.
Q: Talking about Haruka, we should talk about kissing back of knee event.
Takashima: It was redoing what we could not accomplish in Kimikiss.
Q: Kimikiss has the scene for kissing Mao's knee.

Spoiler:

Takayama: I planned was not kissing Mao's knee, it was other girl's back knee.
Sakamoto: Kissing back of knee was decided in the beginning. However, I didn't have enough imagination. I seeked the assistance from Takayama sensei (laugh).
Takayma: I want this kind feeling! His description is this simple.........
Sakamoto: and his answer is "I see! The result is the current state (laugh).

Spoiler for Risa:

Q: It's unsual that Risa would interrupt other girls.
Takayma: At beginning, we planned more sick act, such as stalking harassment. She might resort to violence. It is the so called yandere (laugh).
Q: How Risa was designed?
Takayama: It was during the late stage of development. I was worn out. Without option, I had to pulled out the drawing from five years ago and said, "Hn, use this!" (laugh)

Spoiler for Hibiki:

Q: Hibiki is a good supporting character.
Takayama: Hibiki was not used during Kimikiss. Because I wrote the script for both Haruka and Ai, so Hibiki has the frequent appearance in the story of Haruka and Ai.

[faiz blaster]

After all, what are the differences between the original version and the psp version (besides the obvious console port part)?