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FYI: A number of recent posts were deleted because they contained or were in reply to manga hints. All hints about future content are completely forbidden by the Spoiler Policy and may not be posted in this thread under any circumstance, whether behind spoiler tags or not. All manga-related discussions must go to the manga thread.
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2013-06-28, 15:42 | Link #3223 | |
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I'd say that Hunter x Hunter is still better though, mostly due to the way he writes pretty much all his characters, pretty much fliping any shounen convention that he pretty much created in YYH (and has been endlessly copied ever since across the industry) and flips them on this head. heh, I can even see the parallel between Bisuke and the old lady Yusuke trained under (dont remember her name). I thought the Spider arc conclusion was amazing. Its another shounen subversion. . .the whole "must-have-epic-fight" ending. It had a lot of impact (especially pakunoda's last scene) and even reconciliation between the God/killua and the spiders. I don't think I've seen that combination. . .ever. . .(or at least having it work and having it have a strong impact) I feel that he was a lot more deliberate in his story telling in HxH than he was in YYH (especially towards the end of YYH when he just wanted to end it) But yes, if you want to point out that YYH is pretty much what the whole shounen industry has been ripping off of over and over and over again(and failing at it) then yeah, I'd say you're right. But I 100% believe that he improved his writing in HxH over YYH. |
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2013-06-28, 19:46 | Link #3225 |
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This isn't DBZ, Naruto or Bleach. He's as good as gon(har har, get it X0P). And even though Nen can do impossible things, unless Gon 'conveniently' comes across a reviving Nen user, Kite's gone for good, especially more so, since his head has been torn off of his body. If this was a typical shounen, I'd agree with you, but in HxH? Highly doubt it =02.
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2013-06-29, 02:52 | Link #3228 | |
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Well, I suppose letting the rabbit go was a mistake, and by extension taking the kids with him was, but how supernaturally prescient does one have to be before you give up on saying they have bad judgment? |
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2013-06-29, 03:05 | Link #3229 | |
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2013-06-29, 03:10 | Link #3230 | ||
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All Kite had, going in, was "giant ants". Pitou was the first that was any kind of threat to him. |
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2013-06-29, 03:16 | Link #3231 | |
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2013-06-29, 03:26 | Link #3232 | ||
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As for waiting... Time was and is of the essence. The more they wait, the more royal guards and kings they have to deal with. |
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2013-06-29, 03:37 | Link #3233 | |
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And he made a judgment call to ignore his gut feelings. And then he died. That's just a sequence of events. Obviously you're trying to say that he made a reasonable decision based on what he knew at the time, but all I'm saying is that he had a choice, and he made the one that resulted in his death. If we're comparing his judgment to Morel's, which we were, one of them made a judgment call that led directly to his death, and the other one didn't. Yet. |
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2013-06-29, 04:13 | Link #3234 | ||
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And the fact of the matter is that Morel based his judgment of "Killua's a coward" on less information than Kite had. And Netero's based his judgment of "only take the very strong and determined" based on more information than Kite had. So any comparison is suspect right from the outset. |
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2013-06-29, 04:51 | Link #3235 |
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Depends how you're defining right and wrong, doesn't it? Assuming your goal is to live and not to sacrifice yourself to achieve something, dying when you could have not died is almost by definition the wrong choice. You're trying to argue that we shouldn't be too hard on him for things outside of his knowledge, but his job is to venture into the unknown and survive. He needed to develop good instincts and to trust them. And he had those instincts, but he didn't trust them, so he died. The closer he gets to prescient, the better he is at doing his job.
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2013-06-29, 04:56 | Link #3236 | |
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2013-06-29, 04:59 | Link #3237 | |
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If he discovered he had cancer or something, then that would be different, but he had the opportunity to retreat at any point. |
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2013-06-29, 17:04 | Link #3238 | |
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Just like in our world even in Hunter x Hunter world,the feelings are the same,being Hunters they sharpen their senses(human senses),but you can't sharpen your feelings.We all have bad feelings,that doesn't stop us from going out that day. You can't gain experience in feelings either,there's no pattern in life,like there's in combat or a game.You can only gain experience if you start recognizing pattern,but life is different all the time,you can't predict what you have waiting for you around the corner,even if we're talking about Hunter x Hunter world. |
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2013-06-29, 17:22 | Link #3239 | |
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And Leorio is an even better Hunter, because when's the last time he was even in serious danger? |
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2013-06-29, 17:54 | Link #3240 | ||
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Why is everyone trying to make excuses for Kite? He's strong, sure, but strength isn't everything. And apparently if he had run back to the border he could have met up with the reinforcements within the day. Edit: The lesson we learn from Kite's death was "don't get overconfident", not "it doesn't matter what you do cause you're going to die anyway". That'd be a silly lesson. |
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