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Flo · 2006-02-25, 14:18

Ladies and Gentlemen, to celebrate the 200th post in this Jigoku Shoujo Thread it's my great pleasure to present to you flood loads of Enma Ai. We all will go to hell for her cuteness anyway, so enjoy.

evillily · 2006-02-25, 15:44

wow~ how cute. thanks a lot

physics223 · 2006-02-25, 16:03

If that isn't so damn cute, I really don't know what will be ... Enma is cuteness emanated (even if she seems really lame as an anime character, she's great as a poster-girl).

chucky · 2006-02-26, 22:13

Basically this series is a complete waste of a potentially intriguing story -- it is lazy, boring and ridiculously monotonous, plagued by moronic one-dimensional characters. And for the main storyline, you will find it is nothing more than a background decoration that has no bearing to almost all of the main story.

Zero merit and a grade of F except maybe 2-3 episodes. And yes it is just one your-fucked-up- gradeschooler revenge porno (yes, not even highschool) If you are still not quite into it, this forgettable series will be the one you really wanna skip, except you have an IQ less than 10 years old's.

physics223 · 2006-02-26, 22:51

And I thought I hated the series. Wow.

Indeed, this is quite lame. Even Angel Blade has more story than this, and a more coherent one at that ...

Dell Virago · 2006-02-26, 23:10

Ok, I will admit Hell Girl has some SERIOUS faults. but, I, for one like the creepy feeling it has, and the many different little stories are a nice break from the other animes where if you don't watch every ep, you havent a clue as to what is going on. .
Hell Girl, I think, is more about the art. Soemthing Like " le protrati de petit Cossett". I will admit that it would have been better if they had made Hell Girl a movie, but ah well. try to look at the art. There is MUCH more to an anime then the characters and storyline. That is all in the writing, and the script. the art work is what makes this anime. If you look at the repitition, it really gives you an opportunity to appericate the subtle changes that appear from show to show, that you would otherwise miss.
I do hate to do this.Is seemes so.. review-y. However, I hate a one sided arguement.

chucky · 2006-02-26, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dell Virago

Ok, I will admit Hell Girl has some SERIOUS faults. but, I, for one like the creepy feeling it has, and the many different little stories are a nice break from the other animes where if you don't watch every ep, you havent a clue as to what is going on. .
Hell Girl, I think, is more about the art. Soemthing Like " le protrati de petit Cossett". I will admit that it would have been better if they had made Hell Girl a movie, but ah well. try to look at the art. There is MUCH more to an anime then the characters and storyline. That is all in the writing, and the script. the art work is what makes this anime. If you look at the repitition, it really gives you an opportunity to appericate the subtle changes that appear from show to show, that you would otherwise miss.
I do hate to do this.Is seemes so.. review-y. However, I hate a one sided arguement.

That's why I ALWAYS like to post polemics on this thread -- people just response exactly the way I want.

Let you know one secret: I love Pokemon. Everytime I hear people yelling "Man, pokemon is for kids!" I tell them this: look at how fucking cute those little creatures are! Each time Pikachu mutters "pika! pika!" with all its conjurable tenderness and flies into Satoshi's embrace, my tears will uncontrollably roll in my eyes -- I realize humanity finds its true essence in that moment, and friendship the most precise expression! Like the golden drops of sun in the early spring, the voice of Pikachu melts away the winter in my heart, and then... I dont need my prozac anymore!

And for those who got schools and jobs, I think yeah, we need to take a break from, eh, "other animes"....... by watching another anime! Man, that's the next best thing I believe since God (come on, let's assume there's one so we can leave a room for the concepts like Hell and Heaven... just for the sake of Enma Ai) creates Sunday. Halleluja!

Thanx, my dear Virago -- with people like you, who needs a punchbag?

physics223 · 2006-02-26, 23:38

Art or animation, however, does not make or break anime series. What congeals them to be good or bad is their plot, characterization, and story. There are a lot of bad anime out there with decent, if not great art - like Bakuretsu Tenshi, for example. It still failed as an anime because despite its art, it had a very weak storyline and plot; it also had ugly characterization.

Next, Mushishi similarly is episodic. It is altogether also 'somewhat different' from most anime (in that it is episodic and for mature audiences [the children will be bored]). However, many agree that it is among the best anime of 2005: some even go to the extent of deeming it among the best anime of all time. Why? Because although it has mediocre art, its plot, characters, and storyline are stunning. It then stands, towering above others, as a great anime.

It's easy to animate well. Disney can do that easily, and a bunch of diligent animators can make any anime excellently drawn. The story, the plot, and the script is different, though. Not anyone can pull off a great story, and not just anyone can do it in anime.

chucky · 2006-02-26, 23:53

Just one not-so-irrelevant comment and one suggestion:

not-so-irrelevant comment: the background of mushishi actually is exceptionally well done. I know it is a moot point, but when I watch it on HDTV version, it is very unbelievable since prolly ep. 10 and on. Not only it applies the traditional East Asian painting style, but it adds depth to it when necessary.

suggestion: please, please, don't compare mushishi with Jigoku Shoujo. Mushishi is NOT a pedophilic Moe crap afterall, nor uniform fetish, nor gradeschool sexual frustration....

physics223 · 2006-02-26, 23:59

(1) I can't see that properly with a 15-inch screen, sorry. I deem it mediocre - but that's for people to decide on if they deem it excellent or majestic.

(2) That was to disprove his or her point that Jigoku Shoujo has something special.

Anyway, Mushishi is an excellent anime. Although we may not agree on the animation quality, we still should agree that it is among the best anime without question.

Dell Virago · 2006-02-27, 00:20

it is one thing to draw well. Art is another thing all together.
FYI, i am a she. Virago is french meaning a female dragon. Dell is derived from Dragon lady. D.L= Dell. but you didnt know that, and I wouldent expect one's french to extend to something that obscure
P.S - jigoku Shoujo does have something special. all artwork does, if you look for it. Yes, even Pokemon.

physics223 · 2006-02-27, 01:45

I had a guess that you were a girl. Honestly.

I don't go forward with inferences because if you were a guy, you'd probably be offended (I think). I knew the word virago because Penguin (the publishers) had a series of novels written by women from different countries in the world - of course, all were well-known within their countries and were celebrities there. It was called Virago Modern Classics, so I had a hunch that you were a girl.

I did not know that a virago was a female dragon. I only knew that it hinted of a girl.

I admit Jigoku Shoujo has something special. Everything does, right? I stand corrected, then.

I respect your opinion, which is why I have not been flaming you in my ripostes. This is an intellctual discourse.

Dell Virago · 2006-02-28, 12:33

er.. is hell Girl Dying? not many people are replying anymore, and the eps are being very slow in coming out...

Flo · 2006-02-28, 12:40

I have no problem with that since I would watch RAW and can read Chinese subs. Which ever comes first. XD

Guido · 2006-02-28, 13:24

Finally, they're starting to build upon the climax for the oncoming the end that is not distanced far away.

Vexx · 2006-02-28, 17:02

Hellgirl got damned by her own potential..... it *could* have been as noteworthy as a Twilight Zone (original) series. It *could* have been kind of an anti-Constantine. But it was obviously too easy to fall into a formulaic rut rather than progress the meta-story about Hell Girl, her companions, and just what the hell was going on and what are the mortals aware of her going to do. Instead we got the "easy stories" ... don't people suck, but the ones who think they suck also suck --- all to hell, don't pass go.

But she does make an demonically moe poster girl

Guido · 2006-02-28, 19:07

Omniscient's synopsis for episode 21.
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006...oku-shoujo-21/

Spoiler:

Dell Virago · 2006-03-01, 08:41

ok, it does not have a huge amazing sotryline, but NEITHER DOES SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS, and I bet a lot of you watch that, even if you dont admit it. ALL i want is some new EPS so i can regrow some brain cells after a hard weeks of study. thats all i want. thats not too much to ask, is it? * cires*

physics223 · 2006-03-01, 08:54

I don't watch it a lot. I love watching Spongebong Hemppants, though. He rocks.

Wow. That's great, Dell. You study ... while here I am having a hard time not studying.

To be back on topic ... the show is ... well ... ah ... uh ... plotless?

BBOvenGuy · 2006-03-01, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dell Virago

ok, it does not have a huge amazing storyline, but NEITHER DOES SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS, and I bet a lot of you watch that, even if you dont admit it.

For that matter, neither does Law & Order. In fact, I remember one blogger referring to this show as Law & Order: Demon Revenge Unit.

2006-02-25, 14:18	Link #201
Flo The Necessary Evil Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peeing on Stinku's Grave	Ladies and Gentlemen, to celebrate the 200th post in this Jigoku Shoujo Thread it's my great pleasure to present to you flood loads of Enma Ai. We all will go to hell for her cuteness anyway, so enjoy. Last edited by Flo; 2006-02-25 at 14:46.

2006-02-25, 16:03	Link #203
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	If that isn't so damn cute, I really don't know what will be ... Enma is cuteness emanated (even if she seems really lame as an anime character, she's great as a poster-girl). __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-02-26, 22:51	Link #205
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	And I thought I hated the series. Wow. Indeed, this is quite lame. Even Angel Blade has more story than this, and a more coherent one at that ... __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-02-26, 23:10	Link #206
Dell Virago Caffine Queen Join Date: Jan 2006	I Hate Critics Ok, I will admit Hell Girl has some SERIOUS faults. but, I, for one like the creepy feeling it has, and the many different little stories are a nice break from the other animes where if you don't watch every ep, you havent a clue as to what is going on. . Hell Girl, I think, is more about the art. Soemthing Like " le protrati de petit Cossett". I will admit that it would have been better if they had made Hell Girl a movie, but ah well. try to look at the art. There is MUCH more to an anime then the characters and storyline. That is all in the writing, and the script. the art work is what makes this anime. If you look at the repitition, it really gives you an opportunity to appericate the subtle changes that appear from show to show, that you would otherwise miss. I do hate to do this.Is seemes so.. review-y. However, I hate a one sided arguement.

2006-02-26, 23:38	Link #208
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	Art or animation, however, does not make or break anime series. What congeals them to be good or bad is their plot, characterization, and story. There are a lot of bad anime out there with decent, if not great art - like Bakuretsu Tenshi, for example. It still failed as an anime because despite its art, it had a very weak storyline and plot; it also had ugly characterization. Next, Mushishi similarly is episodic. It is altogether also 'somewhat different' from most anime (in that it is episodic and for mature audiences [the children will be bored]). However, many agree that it is among the best anime of 2005: some even go to the extent of deeming it among the best anime of all time. Why? Because although it has mediocre art, its plot, characters, and storyline are stunning. It then stands, towering above others, as a great anime. It's easy to animate well. Disney can do that easily, and a bunch of diligent animators can make any anime excellently drawn. The story, the plot, and the script is different, though. Not anyone can pull off a great story, and not just anyone can do it in anime. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-02-25, 15:44	Link #202
evillily KissSub_Jelly Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sydney Age: 34	wow~ how cute. thanks a lot

2006-02-26, 22:13	Link #204
chucky Always impatient Join Date: Jun 2004	Basically this series is a complete waste of a potentially intriguing story -- it is lazy, boring and ridiculously monotonous, plagued by moronic one-dimensional characters. And for the main storyline, you will find it is nothing more than a background decoration that has no bearing to almost all of the main story. Zero merit and a grade of F except maybe 2-3 episodes. And yes it is just one your-fucked-up- gradeschooler revenge porno (yes, not even highschool) If you are still not quite into it, this forgettable series will be the one you really wanna skip, except you have an IQ less than 10 years old's.

2006-02-26, 23:53	Link #209
chucky Always impatient Join Date: Jun 2004	Just one not-so-irrelevant comment and one suggestion: not-so-irrelevant comment: the background of mushishi actually is exceptionally well done. I know it is a moot point, but when I watch it on HDTV version, it is very unbelievable since prolly ep. 10 and on. Not only it applies the traditional East Asian painting style, but it adds depth to it when necessary. suggestion: please, please, don't compare mushishi with Jigoku Shoujo. Mushishi is NOT a pedophilic Moe crap afterall, nor uniform fetish, nor gradeschool sexual frustration....

2006-02-26, 23:59	Link #210
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	(1) I can't see that properly with a 15-inch screen, sorry. I deem it mediocre - but that's for people to decide on if they deem it excellent or majestic. (2) That was to disprove his or her point that Jigoku Shoujo has something special. Anyway, Mushishi is an excellent anime. Although we may not agree on the animation quality, we still should agree that it is among the best anime without question. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-02-27, 00:20	Link #211
Dell Virago Caffine Queen Join Date: Jan 2006	it is one thing to draw well. Art is another thing all together. FYI, i am a she. Virago is french meaning a female dragon. Dell is derived from Dragon lady. D.L= Dell. but you didnt know that, and I wouldent expect one's french to extend to something that obscure P.S - jigoku Shoujo does have something special. all artwork does, if you look for it. Yes, even Pokemon. Last edited by Dell Virago; 2006-02-27 at 00:47.

2006-02-27, 01:45	Link #212
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I had a guess that you were a girl. Honestly. I don't go forward with inferences because if you were a guy, you'd probably be offended (I think). I knew the word virago because Penguin (the publishers) had a series of novels written by women from different countries in the world - of course, all were well-known within their countries and were celebrities there. It was called Virago Modern Classics, so I had a hunch that you were a girl. I did not know that a virago was a female dragon. I only knew that it hinted of a girl. I admit Jigoku Shoujo has something special. Everything does, right? I stand corrected, then. I respect your opinion, which is why I have not been flaming you in my ripostes. This is an intellctual discourse. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-02-28, 12:33	Link #213
Dell Virago Caffine Queen Join Date: Jan 2006	er.. is hell Girl Dying? not many people are replying anymore, and the eps are being very slow in coming out...

2006-02-28, 12:40	Link #214
Flo The Necessary Evil Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Peeing on Stinku's Grave	I have no problem with that since I would watch RAW and can read Chinese subs. Which ever comes first. XD

2006-02-28, 13:24	Link #215
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Finally, they're starting to build upon the climax for the oncoming the end that is not distanced far away. Last edited by Guido; 2006-05-18 at 17:55.

2006-02-28, 17:02	Link #216
Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	Hellgirl got damned by her own potential..... it could have been as noteworthy as a Twilight Zone (original) series. It could have been kind of an anti-Constantine. But it was obviously too easy to fall into a formulaic rut rather than progress the meta-story about Hell Girl, her companions, and just what the hell was going on and what are the mortals aware of her going to do. Instead we got the "easy stories" ... don't people suck, but the ones who think they suck also suck --- all to hell, don't pass go. But she does make an demonically moe poster girl __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

2006-02-28, 19:07	Link #217
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Omniscient's synopsis for episode 21. http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006...oku-shoujo-21/ Spoiler: Hajime succeeded! No one went to hell in that episode.

2006-03-01, 08:41	Link #218
Dell Virago Caffine Queen Join Date: Jan 2006	ok, it does not have a huge amazing sotryline, but NEITHER DOES SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS, and I bet a lot of you watch that, even if you dont admit it. ALL i want is some new EPS so i can regrow some brain cells after a hard weeks of study. thats all i want. thats not too much to ask, is it? * cires*

2006-03-01, 08:54	Link #219
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I don't watch it a lot. I love watching Spongebong Hemppants, though. He rocks. Wow. That's great, Dell. You study ... while here I am having a hard time not studying. To be back on topic ... the show is ... well ... ah ... uh ... plotless? __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!