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View Poll Results: Sword Art Online - Episode 12 Rating | |||
10 out of 10 : Near Perfect.... | 44 | 29.93% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 31 | 21.09% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 29 | 19.73% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 20 | 13.61% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 12 | 8.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 3 | 2.04% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 3 | 2.04% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 3 | 2.04% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.68% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 1 | 0.68% | |
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2012-09-23, 22:17 | Link #201 | |
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2012-09-23, 22:32 | Link #202 |
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So Yui turned up to be a buffed up NPC of sorts, under the Cardinal system control (which was featured in the beginning of the OP video). Gotta love when apparently random imagery has actual meaning in the story.
Anyway, these two episodes felt sidestory-ish compared to 9 and 10 but the next episode sounds more promsing going only by the title. |
2012-09-23, 22:34 | Link #203 | |
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2012-09-24, 02:31 | Link #207 | ||||
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I really enjoyed this episode and was all snifflely during the xxx-san to mama/papa scene *cry*
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With all those graphical based utilities, "bad" programming is covered up by throwing resources at the problem. Those who remember those Amiga demos should know what I am on about xD Quote:
For example coding MUDs is a good example as they appear to be simple text based MMOs so no need to complicated the scenario with zing zing 3d effects. Basically the MUD base is coded in various "hard core" languages, for example C for the server bits, and Perl for the text manipulation bits. Now as good a programmer you are, when you look at someone else's code base it will be a nightmare, especially since it seemed a lot of MUD coders like to make their code small and efficient. The smaller code is; the more short cuts used and for some obscene reason less comments given Now if you actually develop in for the game in terms of creating content, you don't need to know C or Perl, instead you learn the in-game language which is always very simple and more importantly if associated with real life right now, it will be object orientated. So Yui's object will have an object which is indexed, therefore if Kirito knows the GM language, tracking down an object should be relatively simple! No hacking just using set commands that a GM would use if they were trying to review a character's profile etc Quote:
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2012-09-24, 04:58 | Link #209 |
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Yui: a program whose sole job is to provide comfort and support for those players in need.
She was designed to interact with players in an empathetic way, and her inability to help the players meant she could only become a reflection of the world's mental state. Isolated in a dark world full of negative emotions. Kirito and Asuna's relationship is proof that their willpower together was able to overcome the depair Kayaba brought on and didn't need Yui's help. Ironically, being 'chained' to the system and accumulation of despair meant that Yui, herself, required comfort and support. If Kirito and Asuna represents a glimmer of light in the VR world, then it was only natural for her to seek and be with them, whether she intentionally knew this or not. To Kirito and Asuna, Yui is their reward for their growing relationship and overcoming the depair Kayaba brought into the VR world. To Yui, Kirito and Asuna also represent the belief that the world can survive without Yui's help. The rules of 'fairness' makes its appearance once again: If Yui was forbidden to do her sole job of helping the players, perhaps fairness was achieved by her single act of intervention. If Yui's death was a consequence of her intervention, perhaps fairness was achieved by getting her 'heart' back. Her heart is to be a "physical" reminder of their past together and goal they shouldn't lose sight of: Their desire for freedom not only for themselves, but also for their 'first child' who was chained to the system. Spoiler for No novel spoilers (I'm an anime-only watcher, duh). My honest truth on the matter. Quadratic haters and ardent novel defenders need not open this:
Makes so much sense, it's not funny. |
2012-09-24, 08:05 | Link #212 |
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Look back at the very first episode. Look at Kirito's room very very carefully. Look at his obsession with Kayaba, his customized Computers, his posters on Nerve Gear, games, etc. It's clear that this IS an ULTRA Geeky boy conversing with Hacking, and likely rather bright.
What I'd imagined happened was that Yui left behind the coding of the GM Terrminal in a particular computer language that a person sufficiently obsessed with IT and especially programming might be easily able to recognize. Looking at Yui's previous instructions as a template and hint, Kirito might have deduced and gambled on writing the right instructions to save Yui onto an item. |
2012-09-24, 08:26 | Link #213 |
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Well, I know when I have to admit a crushing defeat So I'm begging the pardon of everyone I may have angered with my comments, especially Rakshasa. Sry if it may have looked as if I looked down on you or your knowledge, I got a bit carried away
BUT I still have another question: If Cardinal can "see" that Yui is breaking her rules and tries to erase her, wouldn't it naturally try to stop Kirito from saving her as it should know that somebody tries to copy her data with access from her account. The simpliest way to stop Kirito would imo be to log him out which should be no problem for Cardinal, but well I guess that is explained per plotarmour XD |
2012-09-24, 08:56 | Link #214 | |
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2012-09-24, 09:21 | Link #215 | |
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Spoiler for Vol 2 -- cut out detail from Red Nosed Raindeer -- Game Mechanics:
...and why... Spoiler for Vol 9 or 10 (can't remember) -- appending detail to Red Nose Raindeer -- Cardinal's Actions in SAO (nothing else):
...and there's also... Spoiler for Vol 2 -- cut out detail from Warmth of the Heart -- Self-Conclusion -- Cardinal and Weapon Creation:
...and also... Spoiler for Vol 2 -- cut out detail from Black Swordsman -- Cardinal and Graphics:
Cardinal does not constantly look at every single thing in SAO 24/7. If it did, imagine what it would do to the server. Essentially, it would crash, and crash epicly. Thus, Cardinal's entire actions are simply based upon hundreds of thousands of Observer Design Patterns (Go Google it if you're not a programmer; if you are, then you should know this!), which means.... yes, the entire point of this... is that Cardinal only bases its actions on things that are done, that had happened. Cardinal took a few minutes to judge Kirito suddenly pressing that virtual keyboard as a big no no because... at the same time... he's taking care of ... probably tens of thousands of other things. It's not like the server has infinite processing speed. An MMO server is not the supercomputer in USA that can compute probably a billion digits of Pi a second. Whew.
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2012-09-24, 11:10 | Link #216 |
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I'm not really defending this episode... I'm just defending some of the sillier points people are having issues with.
IE - OMG, he copied a file, nowai! vs. the "super advanced AI that's controlling all the behind the scenes work that would typically take a fairly large crew of human dev's / programmer's / etc." Honestly I think it's a rather poorly adapted arc and somy of the 'bits' of the source material were sub-par, but that's one obvious glitch behind adaptions that's not trying to correct silly bits of the source material. I really liked the overall arc as well as the overall original side story, and tried not to get mired in the silly nitpicks because it's ultimately not my adaption |
2012-09-24, 11:23 | Link #217 | |
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2012-09-24, 13:13 | Link #218 | |
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Or maybe after midnight, when most of the players aren't active. Nothing says that a single program that has been quietly humming along for two years that only now committed a single rogue action would need to be deleted immediately and without any user interaction. Perhaps it asked for an operator response and was waiting for someone 'in charge' to approve. Perhaps it sent that request, and didn't recieve a response in a time frame and decided to delete the rogue program. |
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2012-09-24, 13:29 | Link #219 |
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Except that Cardinal was described as an autonomous AI that doesn't require human maintenance.
By that extention, that also means the AI can respond itself without the need of confirmation from a human operator, seeing that AI is able to manage the balance of the game without any human input. This probably explains how Kabaya can elude the government and all, as if the server has absolutely no need for maintenance or human control, there is even less information to track down.
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2012-09-24, 13:44 | Link #220 |
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why is ep 12 getting such low ratings from every forum i go to? i thought it was frigging great.
most people's argument is that the style of 'introduce a new character who becomes close with the MC, then dramatically kill her off' is getting old. how can anybody dislike yui as a character?! Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-09-24 at 14:14. Reason: No, just don't even hint that |
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