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2012-10-22, 21:03 | Link #1664 |
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I do sympathize with KiraYamatoFan that "foreign policy" does not equal talking about Israel the entire debate. Frankly, discussions like that in the US bring the "end time" loons out of the closet.
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2012-10-22, 21:05 | Link #1666 |
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I've always liked Bob Schieffer. He gets stern and angry when the situation calls for it. This is the guy who should be anchoring CBS news rather than the "pretty faces" they keep going to.
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2012-10-22, 21:15 | Link #1667 |
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In any case, Politifact is keeping a real time track on the candidates' statements.
Let's count the false and pants on fire statements. It'll be just like football. Kira: They're about to talk about China...or so the moderator is trying to make them. |
2012-10-22, 21:17 | Link #1668 |
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It's not the government who makes the economy successful... No, really?
edit: about China, they still keep it on the economics level... which is not anything new to me. It's not as if they said what would be to expect of a response with China's military ambitions. |
2012-10-22, 21:31 | Link #1670 | |
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As I said, they keep on bringing the economics part whenever the word "China" comes on the table. It's not only about economics; the media brought to our attention the military ambitions in China since all those territorial disputes came up. Have we forgotten how far the PRC were willing to go in the mid-1990s? I doubt it has changed since. |
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2012-10-22, 21:44 | Link #1671 | |
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2012-10-22, 21:44 | Link #1672 |
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Strange debate. Romney came out swinging but quickly floundered (or at least made a strategic stand to have opinions similar to Obama's). Still, I was surprised at how little was actually covered in this debate. No real mention of the EUs problems, no mention of South America or most of Africa. Instead we got much on Isreal, Muslims and some little bit about China.
Still, they were both fairly effective. Obama had a better resonance on the majority of the issues, but that could have been a strategic move on Romney's part to not distance himself from many of Obama's policies (to get support by Independents). Still, Romney managed to throws some good attacks even if he threw much of his former stances out the window. |
2012-10-22, 21:50 | Link #1675 |
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I don't disagree with almost all your points .. I'd just like to remind you that angry mobs generally don't care about "facts" (in quotations cause that's probably how some people might see it) when they're preparing to lynch you
PS: I'm also not saying you should "lower yourself" to their level. But sometimes it makes sense to look out the window to make sure you're not living in an ivory tower. Debates: I thought Romney thinks he's in the lead. He's trying to act "Presidential" and not "stoop" to mud-slinging. Overall he was downright charming compared to how he's been on the campaign.. But boy, Obama's closing remarks reminds me of 4 years ago. Where has he been? Oh, and smooth move by Romney on bipartisanship, the commentators are all saying "Women voters!" simultaneously. And Obama is declared winner! By almost the same margin that Romney won debate 1 |
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To be fair, the American government (as in, the foreign policy establishment in Washington) doesn't want to talk about that too much either. The consensus is to play the supporter for various other nations distrustful of China rather than an aggressive military realignment that would provoke a tension-filled arms race. The currency manipulator/trade war talk spooks the PRC enough on its own. I *am* curious about the stances of the Presidential candidates -- assuming there is a stance that won't be flipped tomorrow -- on the Eurozone crisis, the Syrian crisis, and other immediate points. But I wasn't expecting, so whatevar. Quote:
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2012-10-22, 22:31 | Link #1678 | |
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In regards to the debate itself, and reflecting on the entire election season, I'm reminded greatly of a recent TED talk about the dangerous asymmetry right now between the global components of the world and the ability of individual governments to handle them. The US has a very wide reach, but it isn't all powerful, and there is a lot that is ultimately out of their hands. It's almost a perfect analogy of the role of the President. I'm looking forward to the third party debate tomorrow. Too bad it won't be broadcast by any American media.
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Sadly, I think that it doesn't matter whether Mitt or Barrack win, we're going to war with Iran.
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