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2013-07-12, 13:22 | Link #582 | |
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2013-07-12, 20:52 | Link #583 |
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By all means ignore the quote if you don't like it.
I have still yet to hear how you could possibly add a female character near someone of Noctis' political position and keep her platonic without making her into a love interest. Sure, everyone wants a female party member, but for personal reasons. How do you actually expect her to fit into the story? |
2013-07-12, 21:03 | Link #584 | |
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2013-07-12, 21:17 | Link #587 | |
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What's wrong with just letting Nomura do whatever the hell he wants with his story and game?
Besides, since when has Final Fantasy ever outright revealed the full cast of the RPG team straight-out? Final Fantasy, as part & parcel of its marketing always had a staggered reveal of late-joiners or 'teammates with spoiler elements' to the team. I think it's a highly mistaken assumption to assume that the core party members will remain unchanged and static throughout the entire game. Remember Final Fantaxy IX? The story's initial cast was also... you know, a sausage fest of travelling thieves before the story turned its tail and changed it into the eccentric team of misfits we got for FFIX. Quote:
We have no inkling towards the external pieces of Noctis's relationship with outsiders, with the exception of Stella's possibility as a childhood friend. And the question remains. Why would an 'Ashe, Yuffie or Lulu' be part of Team Noctis? Ashe is pretty much Noctis from the story's perspective, there's no reason to introduce another royalty. Yuffie is an outsider figure. Any reveal of a 'Yuffie-type' character will not be revealed to us for a long-long time, because it pretty much dives into mid-game spoiler territory. Lulu's role is already covered by existing male characters within Team Noctis. And the teacher figure for FFXV is Cor, who's already a male. Asking that now is pretty much asking for a genderbending.
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2013-07-13, 00:14 | Link #588 | |
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2013-07-13, 00:22 | Link #589 | |
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Seriously, why does that bother people that much? I don't even remember there are that many (or none at all?) JRPG that consists of the whole group of male characters. Why can't we just have that once for a while?
I don't really care about the gender as long as I find the character's interactions interesting, be it companionship, friendship, romance or anything. Quote:
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2013-07-13, 05:03 | Link #590 | |
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2013-07-13, 05:54 | Link #591 | |
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Why should SE justify it to you? Did they wrong you in some way? Are you seriously claiming there needs to be a justification for a bunch of guys to NOT have a girl in their best buddies club?
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2013-07-13, 08:53 | Link #593 | |
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Most character archetypes that could normally have been filled by a female before are filled by a male on Noctis' core team now. Additionally, Noctis himself is the prince of a country with strained political relations. Adding a female character close to Noctis' age would needlessly complicate the setting as they have to explain how she can be close to Noctis without setting off alerts within the country's media. They could avoid potential shipping by making the female significantly older and more experienced, but then that overlaps with Cor's character. That would leave a "Yuffie" type character where an outsider joins the group, but that treads into mid-game spoilers and has nothing to do with the initial setting, and Stella - who is royalty of the opposing country most likely and would not be able to join Noctis until late in the game at the soonest. The number of options to include a female reasonably in the setting without making it blatant otaku pandering is just too limited. |
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2013-07-13, 13:38 | Link #595 |
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It will always be like this, if a fighting game has no females, Rage... If a Fighting game has no Males, Cheers. lol
Wonder if there was a robot game with no genders, would people complain there is no gender?
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2013-07-13, 13:43 | Link #596 |
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Lol I'm not threatening to boycott the game over not having any chicks nor am I bashing the game for lack of them either, in fact I think it can still be a great game regardless -- I'm just not happy with Nomura's thoughts on the matter as it seems like a lazy/half-thought excuse...but as usual simple criticisms and airs get hyperescalated into misandristic feminist lingo or twisted into somehow being devious plots for the hard-working game company... on the forums
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2013-07-13, 13:49 | Link #597 | |
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And now if you ask him why no females, he would just say it is too late to add them. The story is written, he has no reason to re-write the plot. I am annoyed because as I said earlier, one of the posters directly stated she boycotts all games that have a male cast. As I say, that's downright hideous a way of thinking. There are many stories that have mostly men, or mostly women. They are that way not because it was intentional, but because that's how the story ended up. Any demand to "insert" more women is unreasonable by default, as it is assuming that the plot doesn't matter.
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2013-07-13, 18:13 | Link #599 |
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Oh c'mon guys, lay off that poster. You vote with your money right? That poster wants a more 'balanced' approach to gender representation in RPGs, and I can't fault them for that. I mean, I don't agree with her at all (in this thread nor in the DA:Inquisition thread), but what a person does with their own hard earned money is THEIR prerogative.
At least she can justify her boycott. Me? I'm unashamed to admit that there are a bunch of anime BDs and RPGs that I boycott simply because theres is no way for the childhood friend to win. And yet still, no one but me can say I'm wrong in doing so... it's MY money dammit.
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What I really want to know is now that Versus is XV and as such is an official numbered entry in the FF franchise, how will it affect and change the gameplay of future Final Fantasy releases (will they all be stealth/FPS + KH-styled or go back to ATB or FFXIII format?) |
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