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View Poll Results: Code Geass: Akito the Exiled OVA - Episode 2 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 2 | 18.18% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 1 | 9.09% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 54.55% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 9.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 9.09% | |
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2013-02-03, 12:54 | Link #781 |
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wow somebody stopped at episode 18 of the main series. my experience is that once you watched first three episodes of the series you would be hooked till the end, cuz i would wonder after each episode what is coming next. i guess different people has different taste.
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2013-02-06, 23:23 | Link #783 |
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Wondering, am I the only one here who prefers the tone of this OVA to the original series? I mean yeah, the characters need more... character, but I like that it feels more grounded without getting 'too' preachy (though the critiques of the EU could get dangerously close the EF bashing UC Gundam has gotten into), and how it's about people in the thick of it, fighting for their uncertain place in the world, as opposed to how self-congratulatory the original series quickly became about Lelouch.
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2013-02-06, 23:37 | Link #784 |
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Those sales figures look nice. As long as that means Sunrise will want to continue the project, delays aside, it's good news.
Certainly not, though I actually enjoy both of them myself. It's a bit too early to judge the final result, but for the time being...I definitely like the fact that it feels different, which is absolutely fitting since this is meant to be a shorter tale centered around the desperate struggle to survive in the midst of a cruel world, while the main story was more about suddenly being given the power to change said world and embarking on a quest to throw everything into chaos. Lelouch was a student who didn't know what he was getting into, in hindsight, while Akito comes across as someone who has already seen enough during his time in the military (a little closer to Suzaku, on paper, but they're still separate characters). There are other nuances and variations, but there's obviously a very distinct general approach at work. Last edited by Xander; 2013-02-06 at 23:52. |
2013-02-07, 00:58 | Link #785 |
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I guess I also like the blank slate. Akito honestly isn't that interesting of a protagonist so far (he's sort of cut from the same cloth as Heero Yuy from Gundam Wing), but I'm hoping he gets fleshed out, and Leila, while not too different from the Action Girl archetype, is pretty interesting in her confidence, interest in military affairs, and a genuine belief in the principle of the EU.
Lulu I have problems honestly and it can make the original series rather hard to watch; and I know my problems with him are some of the reasons he's liked so much. He's sort of this black hole which bends the universe towards him, he always becomes the center of everyone's attention and the universe always goes out of its way to affect him. He's just too inhuman for my tastes; he's never wrong or never fails in a way that reflects some internal flaw of his, its usually the universe going out of its way to screw him over. He just feels... artificial to me. Again just how I feel. |
2013-02-07, 01:06 | Link #786 | |
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These are very encouraging numbers which should allow the production value to remain the same or even better as the producers would be more willing to open up their check books.
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2013-02-07, 09:36 | Link #787 | ||
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And well...what characters aren't archetypes when you first meet them? It's almost impossible to completely avoid such similarities, on paper, but what makes each of them different is a combination of their own circumstances, motivations and actions. You could also say Heero, Setsuna from Gundam 00 and Chirico from Votoms have comparable basic personalities, on the surface, as "young soldiers with a serious/silent attitude" and so on, but once the story moves forward and you learn enough about the context that starts being less and less true. Going by what little we've seen so far, I'd like to think that will apply to Akito in due time. Quote:
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2013-02-07, 10:47 | Link #788 | |
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2013-02-07, 14:43 | Link #789 | ||
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2013-02-07, 19:22 | Link #790 | |
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Like I've said before, Akito is basically presented as a bit of a mystery man right now and the first episode didn't even attempt to focus on him too much, outside of the combat sequences, instead preferring to give Leila more importance and characterization until the final scene. Which only served to highlight that she's the relatively normal person and Akito isn't. Perhaps a similar approach will continue and we'll only learn more about Akito when she does? It seems reasonable enough. It's also possible that either she'll develop more than him or Akito will only change as a result of his interactions with her...or, for that matter, with the other Japanese who have effectively been drafted into service. My answer ended up being a little too long, so...for the sake of trying to keep things neat and on-topic around here, at least once, I'll put the rest in spoiler tags. Spoiler for Lelouch discussion:
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2013-02-07, 19:54 | Link #791 | |
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The scene where Akito take down the Knightmares with what appears to be a grenade launcher, singlehandedly does beg the question why ground troops weren't used in the original as sappers? Leila has great possibilities as well, has not only a soldier but a tactician. Next episode will bring Suzaku and CC into the story, let's see what develops then.
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2013-02-07, 20:50 | Link #792 | ||
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2013-02-07, 21:27 | Link #793 |
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To be honest, so far there hasn't been much to latch onto any of the characters, but as far as Leila and to a lesser extent the rebels I can see their being development to flesh them out more. With Akito... just seeing how Code Geass itself handled its characters, Akito just looks to stay within the lines of the "Dark, Mysterious Super Soldier" camp, and I'm sorry but that isn't interesting for me.
I just feel like Lelouch as a product keeps Lelouch as a character from being anything more than skin deep. I don't doubt that Lelouch wasn't bereft of any artistic intention, but the end result makes him unlike any human that could exist. Lelouch the Chessmaster and Lelouch the Compassionate Soul are completely compartmentalized modes he switches between, which makes him feel like he's not a cohesive human being. Now you may say that this is supposed to represent how Lulu can't decide between which 'mask' is the real him; but it's simply not executed well. In general, a false sense of depth is something that annoys me about the series. There are a lot of times where the series has this pretense that it's uncovering dark, inner truths about human existence, but it's completely undercut by the silliness of the setting and character interactions. But anyways, probably enough talking about Code Geass in general. Who else really like's the Alternate History aspect of this OVA? EDIT: Heh, in reality Infantry Anti-KF tactics, at least before they start all going super robot, should actually be really effective. One RPG to the leg and you've knocked it out of commission. |
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Having said all these things...it would seem that Akito is going to be a little more serious than the original Code Geass ever was, which I'm also absolutely fine with, but I still don't expect any concrete truths as opposed to the more general themes of surviving against adversity, learning to value human life when it's so fragile on the battlefield, etc. The sort of stuff war movies have done for decades. Quote:
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2013-02-07, 23:28 | Link #795 | |||
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2013-02-08, 00:32 | Link #796 | |||||
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Now...the Akito OVA, despite its considerable pre-production time, is more of a work-in-progress but also has a relatively restricted scope. I mean yes, you could ostensibly tell a full season's worth of stories set in the EU after all the attention they've finally given the topic...but the structure of the tale seems like a simple one. Episode one introduced us to the main cast of characters and episode two will see them working together as a possibly dysfunctional team while meeting their first challenge. After they get that shock out of their system, there's at least another 90 minutes to deal with the consequences and arrange a final confrontation within the final two episodes. But let's speculate a little here. If the numbers are good enough, which is difficult to tell since the sales have started well but honestly aren't quite as absolutely extravagant as those of Unicorn, perhaps Sunrise might end up extending this one a little too, if not in terms of episode count then at least in the amount of running time per episode. I wouldn't be surprised if the last episode or two ended up being 60 or even 70 minutes long instead of just the regular 50. With a lot of luck, we might even get to see episode two increase its length slightly. Quote:
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The idea that he could be a Japanese noble sounds plausible, at least, considering that the original show didn't really address the subject and the Euro Britannian knight went out of his way to praise him before getting killed off. There's been some speculation about his being half-Chinese though. |
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2013-02-08, 16:48 | Link #797 | |
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I won't disagree with Scherzo09's criticisms. They could have went all the way in either direction and had Lelouch either flame out completely, or better yet, have an actual epiphany where he should be more truthful. That would have been a real Third Option, instead of Zero Requiem, which was nothing more than a Death Wish.
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2013-02-08, 17:06 | Link #798 | ||
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What would you want to see as an ending for Akito at this point? It's early, true, but I think that's a more interesting issue than the alternative. Quote:
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2013-02-08, 22:18 | Link #800 | ||||
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Now Code Geass has never really been character driven as much as it has been plot or event driven, but I would like to see this OVA mature and show more interesting characterizations. And part of the reason I'm looking forward to the next episode is that I want to be proven wrong and it turns out the characters are interesting and compelling in their own right. But if I were to show the first episode to someone who only has a passing interest in the Code Geass canon, they'd just say the episode was 'okay'. And I think episode 2 needs to step its game up in terms of pacing and characterization to be, objectively speaking, more than okay. As someone who genuinely likes elements of Geass (I kind of pick and choose), Akito interests the hell out of me, just with how it fleshes out the canon with stuff that makes sense and has some thought put into it, not all these supplementary manga and DS Light Novel games which are really just there to cash-in on the franchise. I'm just afraid this series is going to end up resting on its laurels and not telling an interesting, tight story in its own right. Quote:
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