2010-04-22, 20:16 | Link #8661 |
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We were actually thinking that EP6 would turn out more like that recent TIPs where Battler goes and abuses his game master authority. Or like that fake spoiler where Battler declares in red that all females in EP6 will be naked. 8)
Instead we get moody Battler instead. Not even getting the Stake Sisters to sit around him and look pretty! And he even insisted on Genji and Kumasawa rather than Ronove and Virgilia. Which, by the way, was very interesting, I thought. Is there something that prevents him from making those two into Ronove and Virgilia? Assuming he's the one who controls their appearances... Maybe since he thinks of those two more as Genji and Kumasawa he just can't bring himself to change that. Whereas Beatrice sees them more as Ronove and Virgilia... |
2010-04-22, 20:18 | Link #8662 | |
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Anyway, interesting interview. I didn't think Zepar and Furfur would be THAT important... |
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2010-04-22, 20:19 | Link #8663 | |
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And I'm shocked at how many of these Umineko falls into. |
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2010-04-22, 20:19 | Link #8664 | |
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And as an interesting twist the protag is a girl DUN DUN DUN
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2010-04-22, 20:22 | Link #8665 | ||
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Too bad he broke this one. EDIT: oh wait the site says this just means "don't use too many flashbacks or you'll turn the reader off" huh... he DOES follow that one... IN GAME anyway X. Thou shalt never forget thee has promised thy reader a fantasy. I don't know IS IT? We kind of haven't decided yet. Quote:
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2010-04-22, 20:29 | Link #8666 | |
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2010-04-22, 20:33 | Link #8668 | |
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Suddenly I think it might turn out okay though. I'm sure he'll find some way to make it make sense.
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2010-04-22, 20:41 | Link #8670 |
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I noticed that too.
I think it could also be saying that when your making the notes to write your story if you have two similar characters that are friends with the MC it'd be better writing to just combine the characters so you have one good candidate for the MC's love.
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2010-04-22, 20:42 | Link #8671 | |
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2010-04-22, 20:56 | Link #8672 |
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Uhmmm, I'm kinda disappointed by this interview, oh well actually I expected it wouldn't really say something, so it's not like I'm really disappointed. But then why are you saying that this confirms Shkanon? Which part precisely? I may have missed something...
The part about understanding how Kanon escaped the room doesn't actually seem to be related. Considering ryuukishi said that by understanding that you can understand all the closed room, then the trick can't be shkanon. Not that it means anything against shkanon, but neither the contrary. I always thought that Beatrice knows a particular ingenious trick to create closed rooms and she basically uses that for all the closed rooms scenarios. That's why many times I've tried to put the facts together and asked to reason about a way that could work with all of them. I've never liked any trick that could work for a simple instance, like: "in the closed room case X trick Y wasn't denied, so it's how it was done". That's lame, if that was the case then a closed room wouldn't be resolved only because the detective conveniently doesn't remember to ask that particular repetition that he asked in previous instances. EP6 reinforced me the impression that this "ingenious trick" existed, by the fact that it was frequently said that "the old Beatrice would definitely find a way to escape this closed room". I don't think Beatrice has been depicted as a person exceptionally smart, so that sentence only makes sense if she already know how to do it. Now this interview seems to settle the matter. The only question is: what's the trick? I think there two main ways to reason about it: 1) It's pragmatic trick that would in the real life. 2) It's a trick in wording the red truths or how the situation was presented.
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2010-04-22, 21:05 | Link #8673 |
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People think the Zepar and Furfur comment all but "proves it".
I like that your not claiming that though. And I think your right. The trick is definitely not Shkanon it has to be something like hidden content or a mystery we've never been able to solve before. Or something obvious we never considered. I was just saying that Shkanon can't be the content of land of the golden witch when this interview came up. In fact I posted that just before this. The content was supposedly a group of reds that he planned to use I think.
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2010-04-22, 21:07 | Link #8674 |
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Ah that one?
Well I always assumed that the antishkanon faction thought there was another interpretation to what they said rather than thinking that all they said was irrelevant... were you not..?
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2010-04-22, 21:09 | Link #8675 |
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Well, it can't just be that the person never leaves the closed room because of the no one was hiding reds... unless they were present and not hiding.
If there is a single unified method, it would have to be extremely simple, because an overly complex explanation would've betrayed itself in unusual patterning by now. |
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I admit mine is more a hope than anything... it would be absolutely awesome if there was a single simple trick to explain all of the closed rooms. Any other way wouldn't really impress me, mainly because a lot of persons have already speculated about a lot of different tricks for any closed room, and most of them are trivial or iconic of mediocre writing. Quote:
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