Madan no Ou to Vanadis [Light Novel]

[noobarta]

Originally Posted by Iskatar

...What? I don't even.

I kind of understand?? O_o

[sasoras]

So I'll predict 2 possibilities

Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Kill Eric>Acquire captured vanadis and Zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>duplicate history of asvarre empress>impress valentina

or


Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Face Eric>discover captured Sofiya already sent away as a slave>rescue zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>(be betrayed again by princess(possibility)>Chase the captured Vanadis to Muozinel at Sea >disappear for months>brune, Mira and Ellen shaky relationship with King Zchted.

[azziz]

Originally Posted by sasoras

So I'll predict 2 possibilities

Help

Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Face Eric>discover captured Sofiya already sent away as a slave>rescue zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>(be betrayed again by princess(possibility)>Chase the captured Vanadis to Muozinel at Sea >disappear for months>brune, Mira and Ellen shaky relationship with King Zchted.

it'll be more interesting if the princess,this time,happened to be also evil;i don't want to read about another princess regin.
as unlikely as it is.

[eXitus]

Originally Posted by black knight iust

been wondering what if the king wants to build something
like a succesur
conquering the world with said socceser , or
he could be trying to piss people off , or
trying to get tiger too comite double or triple regeniced by killing both brothers and sister leaving them kingless and queenless making the land up for grabs thus giving the king of Zhcted an excuses too say something like lets say (clears throught to make different voice) "this young man here has defeated the tyrants and is the reincarnation of the red dragon, or personafacation of the red dragon his red hair is proof of this."


oh and ive been playing warband and thinking what if someone made a mod for this based on maden no ou ..... that would be awome ..... marying a vanadis ruling a country, and pissing off lords ..... sounds fun

What do you mean with "... trying to get tiger too comite double or triple regeniced ..." I can't make sense of this sentence no matter how I try to replace the "regeniced".

But for the sense as a whole post: I don't think the King of Zchted is that kind of guy, rather than giving it all to Tigre with a kindhearted smile and a "Her you go son. No need to be shy!" He would do the complete opposite, if he could that is. While it's unclear why he send Tigre, there are two reasons easily acceptable. First, to test Tigre.
Second, to let him get some fame, so he can later use this as a bargaining chip.
Or both... but somehow I get the feeling that Victor didn't include Tigre's personality into account when he sent him... for I get the feeling that King Victor the great, will get quite a headache when Tigre gets back to Zchted and reports to his majesty. And boy I hope that this headache will get to be a chronic disease from that moment onwards. xD

Btw. if I remember correctly it was the "black dragon" who created Zchted, but I am not too sure since it's only vague in my memory.

[willx]

Originally Posted by sasoras

So I'll predict 2 possibilities

Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Kill Eric>Acquire captured vanadis and Zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>duplicate history of asvarre empress>impress valentina

or


Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Face Eric>discover captured Sofiya already sent away as a slave>rescue zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>(be betrayed again by princess(possibility)>Chase the captured Vanadis to Muozinel at Sea >disappear for months>brune, Mira and Ellen shaky relationship with King Zchted.

That might be interesting actually, albeit like someone else said, another Princess Regin would be dull .. I hope this Princess is actually bold and powerful in her own right, just biding her time!

[Hemisphere]

That's nice and all, but...

Spoiler:

Jermaine is already dead

Also...

Spoiler:

the moment word gets out that a Vanadis on her official duty has been captured, Asvarre will become an open ground of hostility for both Zhcted + Brune and Muozinel, which is what makes the actions of the two Princes stupid beyond all belief - this is probably what will warrant Sasha's appearance on the battlefield, as Mila and Elen will have Muozinel sitting on their borders

Wasn't trying to dash you gents' hopes and dreams, just handing out some info so you can adjust your predictions in the right direction.

[Iskatar]

Originally Posted by sasoras

So I'll predict 2 possibilities

Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Kill Eric>Acquire captured vanadis and Zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>duplicate history of asvarre empress>impress valentina

or


Help Jermaine>Establish connection with Princess>Face Eric>discover captured Sofiya already sent away as a slave>rescue zchted soldiers>be betrayed>Ally with princess>Kill Jermaine>(be betrayed again by princess(possibility)>Chase the captured Vanadis to Muozinel at Sea >disappear for months>brune, Mira and Ellen shaky relationship with King Zchted.

I'm pretty sure we're going down the Guinevere being the ultimate ruler of Asvarre route, with her name being closely linked to Arthur and all.

[azziz]

Originally Posted by Iskatar

I'm pretty sure we're going down the Guinevere being the ultimate ruler of Asvarre route, with her name being closely linked to Arthur and all.

i've got no problem with that,but like willx said,the author will have a hard time surprising us again,considering what we've already seen with regin-especially since he choose to use arthurian legend:i just don't want thing to be too predictible.
let's hope tallard graham on one side,and the new muozinel general on the other,will prove to be worthy rivals.

[cramped]

Originally Posted by Hiyohiyo

AMX had actually translated it some time before on the B-T forums, although it ends quite abruptly. I'm pretty sure we'd decided the J-C translation was incomplete, although I no longer remember.

I am not quite sure about that though since when I TL this from CH, the CH TLer said that it is a super duper short story. Here is what is written in the CH TL.

"----------------------------------------------------------------This is a super short story included in the MF bunko 10th anniversary...seeing that nobody is translating it, I decided to put my japanese language skill to use-in fact there are other short stories out there, but loving it is not enough for me to translate it since I don't know how to phrase it out, therefore I don't translate it...this is a literal translation lacking beauty, who think it is good can talk about it, eh.

There's also a song, you can get it from the link here ： http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shar...&uk=1158361694 "

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by Hemisphere

That's nice and all, but...

Spoiler:

Jermaine is already dead

Also...

Spoiler:

the moment word gets out that a Vanadis on her official duty has been captured, Asvarre will become an open ground of hostility for both Zhcted + Brune and Muozinel, which is what makes the actions of the two Princes stupid beyond all belief - this is probably what will warrant Sasha's appearance on the battlefield, as Mila and Elen will have Muozinel sitting on their borders

Wasn't trying to dash you gents' hopes and dreams, just handing out some info so you can adjust your predictions in the right direction.

Then Tigre will just have to rescue Sophie before war breaks out. At the very least I want the princess to be a battle princess that is a match or stronger than a Vanadis.

[setsuna86]

Can someone translate that "角貫の弐 (ドウヴアローケ)"? I think it's what Olga says when she swings her ax (similarly I think Ellen says "cleave the wind (ley admos)").

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by setsuna86

Can someone translate that "角貫の弐 (ドウヴアローケ)"? I think it's what Olga says when she swings her ax (similarly I think Ellen says "cleave the wind (ley admos)").

It's actually 角貫の弐(ドゥヴァローク).
I'd say it's something like "The Second Horn of Piercing/The Second Piercing Horn (Dvarog). Best I could do after looking up some common Russian conversions. Apparently ローク can mean Rog, which is "Horn (角)" in Russian. Dva is also Russian for "two". This author, man... Reverse engineering this stuff is a bitch.

[black knight iust]

Originally Posted by Iskatar

...What? I don't even.

what ? what?

What do you mean with "... trying to get tiger too comite double or triple regeniced ..." I can't make sense of this sentence no matter how I try to replace the "regeniced".

sorry didnt think before i tryed spelling that
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regicide

Btw. if I remember correctly it was the "black dragon" who created Zchted, but I am not too sure since it's only vague in my memory.

first king of zchted went around basicly claiming he was the black dragonborn
as* asv (grrrr what the f*ck is wrong with thies names) asvarre's first king was able to turn into a red dragon or something.... oh wait

Spoiler for heres where the red dragon comes in:

Artorias once said that he dreamed that he transformed into a red dragon.

The red dragon is a symbol of the king who bundles the five tribes' leaders. Artorias, who was until then a very ordinary warrior, believed in an oracle, and decided he will become King. Though most people laughed at Artorias, 12 companions followed him.

supprised no one said anything about warband

[Iskatar]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

It's actually 角貫の弐(ドゥヴァローク).
I'd say it's something like "The Second Horn of Piercing/The Second Piercing Horn (Dvarog). Best I could do after looking up some common Russian conversions. Apparently ローク can mean Rog, which is "Horn (角)" in Russian. Dva is also Russian for "two". This author, man... Reverse engineering this stuff is a bitch.

The '貫' kanji is what's messing with me. What's Olga actually doing with her axe? Cleaving something into two, thus the kanji '弐'? Hm. I wonder if that's just a unique style of calling out her special attacks, considering that every other Vanadis used more incantation-like methods.

[eXitus]

supprised no one said anything about warband

That's because making a mod from the ground up takes a whole lot of effort, not to mention that things like magic weapons or magic in general does not exist there. So building something like the special moves of the dragonic tools is practically impossible or a task which implies a colossal workload. And I personally don't think that MnOtV is a good setting for Warband, since the story is what makes it special, and Warband is a game where you just go about doing it your own way. So it's practically impossible to make the story go smoothly without taking away your freedom within the game. So in my eyes MnOtV would should be an RPG or, ar most, an Strategy game. But honestly, no genre real does it justice... too many "small group" moments for a realtime strategy, too many moments where they fight with a big army on a battelfield for an RPG or round based strategy game like FF-Tactics or the like, and I bet there will be lots of moments where Tigre will be all alone in the field.

So if there will ever be some kind of game for MnOtV, I want it to be an Visual Novel like Musou where you have some minigames in which the army's fight... well honestly, I could live without the minigames... but a VN would be nice.

[sasuke706]

Originally Posted by Iskatar

The '貫' kanji is what's messing with me. What's Olga actually doing with her axe? Cleaving something into two, thus the kanji '弐'? Hm. I wonder if that's just a unique style of calling out her special attacks, considering that every other Vanadis used more incantation-like methods.

I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but 貫いている means "piercing" or "penetrating", and as he puts it right by "horn", I just assume he means the makeshift horn is meant to stab.

And the 2 I assume is to compliment her first move, 牙崩の壱(アジンクリーク). So it could be something instead like: The Second: Piercing Horn, but I'm not too sure if the の弐 has other connotations. I'm pretty sure it isn't a pair of horns as well. As for what it does, I actually found a site that describes it and the other Vanadis' moves a bit.

Originally Posted by 角貫の弐(ドゥヴァローク)

周囲の砂礫をムマの刀身へと集めて形状を通常時の二回り以上大きくなり柄が伸びたムマを対象物へと叩きつけ 、対象物を円形状にくりぬく。

[azziz]

i'd like to thank all of those of you who helped setsuna86 for his translation,no matter how small your contribution is;of course,my gratitude come to you first,setsuna86lease endure it for the left few chapters lefts.
!

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by sasuke706

I'm by no means an expert on the subject, but 貫いている means "piercing" or "penetrating", and as he puts it right by "horn", I just assume he means the makeshift horn is meant to stab.

And the 2 I assume is to compliment her first move, 牙崩の壱(アジンクリーク). So it could be something instead like: The Second: Piercing Horn, but I'm not too sure if the の弐 has other connotations. I'm pretty sure it isn't a pair of horns as well. As for what it does, I actually found a site that describes it and the other Vanadis' moves a bit.

You found the same Hissatsu site? That site is awesome.

[cramped]

Originally Posted by azziz

i'd like to thank all of those of you who helped setsuna86 for his translation,no matter how small your contribution is;of course,my gratitude come to you first,setsuna86lease endure it for the left few chapters lefts.
!

and vol.7 will be released soon enough lol XD

[eXitus]

Originally Posted by cramped

and vol.7 will be released soon enough lol XD

You have a talent for keeping up the pressure... didn't expect anything less from an care(for loli's)bear xD